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Power Fantasy! Let's talk about it

ThePlayer
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I refer to the ZOS article where they talk about class changes: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/57025
I open this post to see what is missing, what should not be touched and to hear the opinions of the other players as well.
I state that i play all the four classes even though i am not an elite player i know the various skills that all classes use.

I begin by talking about the "non-class skill lines" i just say to be very careful with these skills because nerf them to much would affect something that I think "is part of the game and is part of the players' habits "so they are not only skills for fill gaps but they are part of the chosen role: tank, healer, DD.

Now I'll talk about power fantasy for the various classes and the various inevitable coincidences that can be found:

DK - Dragon Knight
This class should exploit the power of fire and earth, is it really so?
DK Tank: can forget about the power of fire and the famous Engulfing Flame skill and now focuses on the power of the earth, maybe some area skills are missing but go well;
DK Stamina: now they have modified the spam skill that uses the power of the earth but in principle it exploits the poison (coincidence with other roles);
DK Healer: has some interesting heal skills that use fire but can be improved, I don't use it but it doesn't seem like a famous healer class;
DK Magicka: class that uses the power of fire but with update 23 has completely lost its identity, to be definitely improved.

Warden
This class should use the power of nature (including frozen magic), of pets, is it really so?
Warden Tank: Exploit we say all the powers listed above, ZOS wants nerf the Polar Wind but I do not agree, perhaps what distinguishes this tank is just the group care;
Warden Stamina: use the pet this is sure and the poison, the poison is part of nature so ok;
Warden Magicka: even the magicka dd uses the pet, the spam skill is the same as the warden, magicka version, maybe this spam skill could work better, too slow.
Warden Healer: use nature to heal and class skills, it would have been nice to heal with frozen area skills but they don't exist, anyway is in the top 3 best healers in the game.

Necromancer:
They use the power of death, is it really so?
Necro Tank: it would have been nice to pull enemies with rotten meat but that's okay, slow yes but ok, the rest was done well;
Necro Stamina: uses the disease in the skills and the no death pet, have included the poison in the skills ... ok (coincidence with other roles);
Necro Magicka: looks like a warden, uses the fire, frozen and shock dmg, has lost the class spam, to be reviewed completely;
Necro Healer: few class skills because the class ones use corpse and are slow, already many healers are slow without the skills being slow, at the moment use the other skills more, not bad as healer anyway.

NB - Night Blade
Should use the power given by the shadow and all the martial powers given by the swords, daggers, etc., is it really so?
NB Tank: I do not use this class, but of what I saw is well balanced and the skills that it uses coincide with its role, at the moment it is very good in the tank role;
NB Stamina: uses the power of the blades and the shadow in the skills, but it has been too weakened, only the elite DDs manage to reach a good dps with this class at the moment, they should at least modify the skill surprice attack and give the major breach;
NB Healer: it does not seem to me to be the top healer, some care skills in the area that use the shadow could be modified;
NB Magicka: the skills reflect the class but too much confusion and too many dots, it should be simplified.

Templar
Should he use divine power, the power of light, is it really so?
Templar Tank: I don't use it but I always liked it as a class, I'm sure it's not bad but some class skills for this role need to be revised;
Templar Stamina: far from being good, it uses all non-class skills, I just hope they don't touch biting jabs in the next update;
Templar Healer: top healer thanks to shards but now ZOS seeks a general equality with all healers;
Templar Magicka: ok for the light skills but has lost its identity with the update 23, the solar barrage that described this class will be completely eliminated in the next update, even the blazing spear does not do so much damage, so it is no longer a magicka templar but only a magicka light that uses other skills + vampire's bane and radiant oppression.

Sorcerer
Class that should exploit all the powers that can be given by magic while maintaining its identity, is it really so?
Sorcerer Tank: I do not use this class but considered it interesting, maybe some skills can be changed but maybe it would be to strengthen this role too much ..., I don't know;
Sorcerer Stamina: they are trying to improve this role, with the next update there will be magic daggers to use with the Bound Armaments skill, but there is still a lot missing, for example a skill for regeneration of the stamina, at the moment in the build the Dark Deal skill is used Deal but slows rotation too much;
Sorcerer Magicka: the role without the pet is dead..and now they want to kill the role with pets too ... (why increase the cost in magicka of the pet?), a class that has lost its identity and who should improve this class does not particularly love the Crystal Fragments skill because it goes against the "pvp" ideas of ZOS, therefore spam skills and Mage's Fury gone, what will remain of this class?
Sorcerer Healer: now it's much better, thanks to the use of radiating regeneration.

In conclusion there is still so much to do and ZOS will surely make so many mistakes because it has this surface approach in fixing things, we hope well.
I await your opinions and those of ZOS, ciao






  • MaleAmazon
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    I think you missed their point a bit. The 'power fantasy' is about what that class can do. Not what 'other people' tell you that you 'need' to have:

    You want to use engulfing flames as a tank? Perfectly viable. Put on a hybrid set like innate axiom in order to boost it if you are a mainly stamina skill character, use it. Perfectly doable. As good as a stamina tank? Maybe not, but that´s not what power fantasy is. Power fantasy is 'can it be done', not 'will random people in the game want you to use it'.
    Sorcerer Stamina: they are trying to improve this role, with the next update there will be magic daggers to use with the Bound Armaments skill, but there is still a lot missing, for example a skill for regeneration of the stamina, at the moment in the build the Dark Deal skill is used Deal but slows rotation too much;

    Dark deal is the best magicka dump in the game, you have no complaint here, unless you want to win the "nitpicker of the year" award.

    In fact, sorcerer might be the best example of a class that plays differently, but is also very strong, when played as magicka / stamina. Several magicka skills to use, a magicka dump, decent stamina morphs, etc.
    NB Stamina: uses the power of the blades and the shadow in the skills, but it has been too weakened, only the elite DDs manage to reach a good dps with this class at the moment

    The fastest vMA clear I´ve seen was a stamina NB IIRC. He killed Voriak Solkyn before the boss could teleport upstairs.

    He broke the game.

    That is information enough IMO.

    <3
    Edited by MaleAmazon on October 2, 2019 11:44AM
  • JumpmanLane
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    Power Fantasy? I’m a MagDk. I’m a dragon. ZOS, let me BE a dragon.

    (Quit nerfing me! Meanies!).
    Edited by JumpmanLane on October 2, 2019 11:46AM
  • Kaunas
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    Im a full mage wizard breton dude. I dont use pets. Any wizard/mage character Should harness all the magical auras around him and smite everything in sight. All i smite is baby guars ez.
    Now im not really complaining, BUUUT id like to actually feel like a mage and not a petting zoo with 2-4 beasts around me all the time.. feel me?
  • Drakavyn_morelock
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    I main as a stam nb and i find its pretty cool but I really want to main this mellee mag nb that's a vampire and actually uses the abilities, I hope it will be viable when they finish these class changes. It looks like they might be making it easier to hybrid with some of the recent changes and the new armours coming out with dragon hold
  • rotaugen454
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    My main is a snooty Altmer male that goes to the Rosy Lion dressed in drag on Friday’s....wait, that’s not the power fantasy you are talking about?

    Nevermind.....
    "Get off my lawn!"
  • Arciris
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    The only Fantasy is that classes have any Power :trollface:
  • TheGreatBlackBear
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    I act out my power fantasies in Riften.
  • Shewolf075
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    Sure let's talk about Power Fantasy as mostly I gathered that to be only about the descriptions, animations, visual effects, and audio of classes and feel of the abilities. Toning down on the bright colours would be a start, I understand that some abilities have a visual representation of buffs. Personally it's too much of a light show going on with the green glowing from Warden's Enchanted Growth and sometimes the healing tree ult gets in the way of combat such as moving about the Dwemer boss in Frostvault when the laser beams happen.
  • Veinblood1965
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    My main is a snooty Altmer male that goes to the Rosy Lion dressed in drag on Friday’s....wait, that’s not the power fantasy you are talking about?

    Nevermind.....

    I've seen you there, great legs!
  • ThePlayer
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    MaleAmazon->
    Dark Deal can be even the best magicka dump in the game (we talk about stamina regeneration anyway) but slow the dps rotation and some players that use this class not use it, i can ensure you;
    I am agreed with the fact the NB stamina can complete all contests in the game, but i can ensure you (again) that not all players can exceed 30-35k dps, especially with medium CPs, and not everyone is able to complete the vet MA with the Night Blade (i did for to be clear);
    Of course if you want to refer to the elite DDs that's another story, here i try to refer to an average of 200 players, not of 20 good players

  • Cadbury
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    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Its a bit open to interpretation the whole thing. I think of it as “fantasy of how powerful my character is” as in how powerful do I feel, vs, how powerful am I practically. Big showy displays of might and vigor make it FEEL powerful, but in practice is the same as everyone else
  • Frostystuff
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    I thought power fantasy was imagining you looked like conan and ran around with a rescued slave girl under one arm and an oversized sword in the other ( not sure were you are supposed to keep your baby oil).
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