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Why do u left the game?
gummy292
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Eso is in my opinion still one of the best mmo's there is. I've played it for many years with 7 close buddy's on the ps4.
A vew months ago we all decided to leave eso behind us. I like to tell you the reason. In our group we all had our favorate character and build. But time after time our builds got nerfed to the ground.
Perma blocking dk, blazing Templar, Perma hiding Nb, shield stacking sorc, dot Dk, oblivion damage builds, unlimited teleporting sorc, light attack shield breaker, sap tank, wings spamming dk, health stacking tank, werewolf bleed, etc. Every time we have found something strong it is getting destroyed with the next patch.
We understand that adapting to new updates is part of the game, but why must this be triggered by nerfes? In our opinion you can also create this affect by using buffs. My friend who used a shield spamming sorc had absolutly no problem with the arrival of the shield breaker set and the broken lightning staff mechanics. We just needed to adapt but it was because of the arrival af a new set, not because of a nerf.
You can say that the old blazing Templar was broken, but perhaps his counter builds were just to weak. I had epic battles against sorcs who spammed teleports. All these op builds were extremely fun to play, and it is sad that this is taken from us because of the policy to create balance trough nerfes.
A side affect of this nerving frenzy is that every build became only good in just a few game modes. In the past you could create a character that was viable in dungeons, solo play, pvp, maelstrom arena, etc. But now for every game mode you need a special build to be competitive. For a regular gamer it is frustrating that it isn't easy to change you're build, you need tons of coin or crowns to change a character from top pve to top pvp to maelstrom arena.
because of this you are forced to create multiple characters. But for a player that is only online for about 10 hours a week, it is almost impossible to create multiple end game characters. What happens is that we had to choose, which part of the game do we solely want to focus on. Excluding us from the other cool parts of the game.
Nerving, Nerving, Nerving made us leave this game, I hope that with a next game the policy would change to buffing things and that for every Op build there comes a counter instead of a nerf. It would have made us play the game a lot longer. Sorry for my English grammer
Edited by gummy292 on October 2, 2019 7:00AM A vew months ago we all decided to leave eso behind us. I like to tell you the reason. In our group we all had our favorate character and build. But time after time our builds got nerfed to the ground.
Perma blocking dk, blazing Templar, Perma hiding Nb, shield stacking sorc, dot Dk, oblivion damage builds, unlimited teleporting sorc, light attack shield breaker, sap tank, wings spamming dk, health stacking tank, werewolf bleed, etc. Every time we have found something strong it is getting destroyed with the next patch.
We understand that adapting to new updates is part of the game, but why must this be triggered by nerfes? In our opinion you can also create this affect by using buffs. My friend who used a shield spamming sorc had absolutly no problem with the arrival of the shield breaker set and the broken lightning staff mechanics. We just needed to adapt but it was because of the arrival af a new set, not because of a nerf.
You can say that the old blazing Templar was broken, but perhaps his counter builds were just to weak. I had epic battles against sorcs who spammed teleports. All these op builds were extremely fun to play, and it is sad that this is taken from us because of the policy to create balance trough nerfes.
A side affect of this nerving frenzy is that every build became only good in just a few game modes. In the past you could create a character that was viable in dungeons, solo play, pvp, maelstrom arena, etc. But now for every game mode you need a special build to be competitive. For a regular gamer it is frustrating that it isn't easy to change you're build, you need tons of coin or crowns to change a character from top pve to top pvp to maelstrom arena.
because of this you are forced to create multiple characters. But for a player that is only online for about 10 hours a week, it is almost impossible to create multiple end game characters. What happens is that we had to choose, which part of the game do we solely want to focus on. Excluding us from the other cool parts of the game.
Nerving, Nerving, Nerving made us leave this game, I hope that with a next game the policy would change to buffing things and that for every Op build there comes a counter instead of a nerf. It would have made us play the game a lot longer. Sorry for my English grammer
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Weesacs✭✭✭✭✭So u and your friends played broken builds each update and now that the game is becoming more balanced you decide you can't be op any more and want to leave?Edited by Weesacs on October 2, 2019 6:42AMBreton Templar
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ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I and my friends are about to leave too .
The dragonhold nerfing is too much , I know that we are unable to complete those mid level contents in the game with limited guildmates .
4 years , was fun , not anymore
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Reading your list of builds from the past was a walk down memory lane.I kinda feel sad now.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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Kurat✭✭✭✭✭
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Perma blocking dk, blazing Templar, Perma hiding Nb, shield stacking sorc, dot Dk, oblivion damage builds, unlimited teleporting sorc, light attack shield breaker, sap tank, wings spamming dk, health stacking tank, werewolf bleed, etc. Every time we have found something strong it is getting destroyed with the next patch
Lmfao
Typical pvp kids idea of fun, glitching.9 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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That would cause power creep.
When a nail stick out of your fence, you hammer it in, you don't pull all the others out to match.8 -
KoultouraS✭✭✭✭✭"I suicided because life isn't static but dynamic"
Maybe you should revise your rigid life perspective in general.
None asked you to follow the meta, unless you play a game to dominate others.
In which case you DEFINITELY need to revise your life perspective...9 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭Nerving, Nerving, Nerving made us leave this game, I hope that with a next game the policy would change to buffing things and that for every Op build there comes a counter instead of a nerf. It would have made us play the game a lot longer. Sorry for my English grammer
Semantics... nerf or buff is one and the same. Someones buf is the nerf of the other and vice versa.
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NeroBad✭✭✭✭Oh the balance knights. ZOS has all the datas, but for their sake I hope you are more numerous and whale material, because these super balances which makes most good builds bad in every 3 months, are so toxic for casuals, that I'm happy some of my friends remained . The rollercoaster balance is so bad for my taste I'm only looking for overworld content because atleast there my 1 year old build (oh my gush who am I who don't like farming sets and golding them every 3-6 months) is viable.6 -
gummy292✭✭✭
That would cause power creep.
When a nail stick out of your fence, you hammer it in, you don't pull all the others out to match.
True but what is more fun? Taking away 1 guys big hammer. Or give every body a bigger one. To become a power creep you need a lot more then just a big hammer5 -
BomblePants✭✭✭✭✭
✭We all knew from the announcement that this year there were going to be some drastic changes..... so.... yeah.... I guess it is a choice to either see what happens or leave. Shape up or ship out....
Why do people always have to tell the forums about it though? It’s not a relationship.... it’s a commercial game....4 -
Grianasteri✭✭✭✭✭
✭Eso is in my opinion still one of the best mmo's there is. I've played it for many years with 7 close buddy's on the ps4.
A vew months ago we all decided to leave eso behind us. I like to tell you the reason. In our group we all had our favorate character and build. But time after time our builds got nerfed to the ground.
Perma blocking dk, blazing Templar, Perma hiding Nb, shield stacking sorc, dot Dk, oblivion damage builds, unlimited teleporting sorc, light attack shield breaker, sap tank, wings spamming dk, health stacking tank, werewolf bleed, etc. Every time we have found something strong it is getting destroyed with the next patch.
We understand that adapting to new updates is part of the game, but why must this be triggered by nerfes? In our opinion you can also create this affect by using buffs. My friend who used a shield spamming sorc had absolutly no problem with the arrival of the shield breaker set and the broken lightning staff mechanics. We just needed to adapt but it was because of the arrival af a new set, not because of a nerf.
You can say that the old blazing Templar was broken, but perhaps his counter builds were just to weak. I had epic battles against sorcs who spammed teleports. All these op builds were extremely fun to play, and it is sad that this is taken from us because of the policy to create balance trough nerfes.
A side affect of this nerving frenzy is that every build became only good in just a few game modes. In the past you could create a character that was viable in dungeons, solo play, pvp, maelstrom arena, etc. But now for every game mode you need a special build to be competitive. For a regular gamer it is frustrating that it isn't easy to change you're build, you need tons of coin or crowns to change a character from top pve to top pvp to maelstrom arena.
because of this you are forced to create multiple characters. But for a player that is only online for about 10 hours a week, it is almost impossible to create multiple end game characters. What happens is that we had to choose, which part of the game do we solely want to focus on. Excluding us from the other cool parts of the game.
Nerving, Nerving, Nerving made us leave this game, I hope that with a next game the policy would change to buffing things and that for every Op build there comes a counter instead of a nerf. It would have made us play the game a lot longer. Sorry for my English grammer
I get your frustration, I absolutely share it. The endless nerf/update cycle is damaging the game and the player base.
But you said you still believe, as I do, that ESO is one of the best mmo's there is. So I do question leaving a game you believe is the best. And even more than this, one which you were able to play with all your buddies. That's a rare thing, to find a game everyone likes and wants to play regularly together.
My main dps, a magsorc, got completely changed, it feels so different to play now, but I am not leaving the game because of it. I get far too much enjoyment out of ESO to leave at present.1 -
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✭✭✭Ryath_Waylander wrote: »If only people that left the game would leave the forums too..... sigh
Yes!! That would solve some of salty issues on here.4 -
KageNin✭✭✭
That would cause power creep.
When a nail stick out of your fence, you hammer it in, you don't pull all the others out to match.
Hahah laughs in Frozen Colossus, I agree with OP so there was few broken builds so what? Give tools to counter them don't go on for years creating power creep then straight up nerfing everything either into uselessness or pure obscurity.
I am going to laugh my ass off when they put cast times on all Ultis because there's no counter play.
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UrbanMonk✭✭✭✭✭
✭So u and your friends played broken builds each update and now that the game is becoming more balanced you decide you can't be op any more and want to leave?
That's exactly the problem.
Anything that performs better than the other is immediately called BROKEN and forum warriors start spamming their keystrokes as fast as possible for NERF, rather than going back and trying to figure out how to beat it.
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✭✭Upon clicking on this post, my first thought was "I doubt anyone cares". Then after reading it, I laughed. Then by the end of it I just wanted to go back to sleep. Boring.2 -
Aigym_Hlervu✭✭✭✭✭Here is another story for you, @gummy292. 17 years back when TES III was published it became very common for the majority of players to play Dunmer. As far as I know, of course. Because I found myself to be among the majority of other Dunmer just like myself. Years passed, Oblivion and Skyrim came out and the same people changed their in-game races to Imperials, Nords.. whatever.. while I still was a Dunmeri mage there. Even when the lore developers destroyed Vvardenfell with Baar Dau, when they threw those slaves to ravage our lands - I still used to be Dunmer. I've been a sorcerer in spite of all the nerfs they did to my class in ESO. They tried to force me to constantly change builds, races, classes in order to become more powerful, but I'm still the one who I am there. Yes, very rarely I do change my speciality from petsorc to stamsorc, I have several up-to-date maintained builds ready to use after some rededication of my skills, CPs and gear, but I will not change my race, my class, my Morrowind and my Alliance.
I was a Redoran Sorcerer back in the Third Era after all - power at the expense of morality is nothing and the fate of our esteemed Telvanni and Hlaalu brethren proves it. The ZOS in pursuit to balance the game just release a buff patch, but the next ones they release nerf back just the same abilities. I might be wrong at this, but I think the actual reason is the same to everything in our world - they just make an illusion of a hardwork to vindicate their existence. This is supposed to be not bad nowdays, but it is the reason of why they're forced to create new problems constantly (instead of fixing the old ones) only to solve them heroically afterwards by creating newer problems. I might offer you the same thing - you just decide who you are in that fiction world and stick to your choice, be honest with yourself and you'll meet your inward peace. There is always someone better than you, there's always someone worse. Or you may continue hopping in pursuit of the better race, better class, better build, better everything, be agile and open to everything new, but in the end you will realise how sensless this "race" is - the Best is the enemy of the Good. Balance problem is an artificial problem they've created themselves - let them solve it themselves alone, while you just continue playing this wonderful game they created the way you have chosen in spite of all their attempts to make your character either weaker or stronger.Edited by Aigym_Hlervu on October 2, 2019 1:42PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭If someone plays a broken build, then whines it was brought in line with the others, it only shows that he's a bad player, because he can't adapt.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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teladoy✭✭✭✭✭What you call nerfs, the rest of the humanity call it "balance" and make the things fair for everyone.
Good luck to you and your friends. Let's hope you can find another game where you can exploit mechanics and be OP as you like.3 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have not left the game yet but have done mostly daily login reward, riding skill and occasional casual levelling for months. And I ran out of character slots and not going to buy more in near future. I don't know what happens when I have every char on 60/60/60.
I'd like to get from casual of to semi hardcore casual and I am pretty sure I can do it but...
For me learning to properly play a class and building a geared character is pretty slow and hard work.
And combat is under construction, I feel its better wait until things are bit more stable.
And I'm not believing in promised performance fixes before it happens.
I did buy Elsveyr when it was on sale but had serious trouble getting interested of it.
Edit: To make me stop whining and quit for good this game only needs to offer any cash shop convenience I feel I need to buy to play. One thing I will not do is p2w. And I fear that may happen soon.Edited by rpa on October 2, 2019 11:43AM2 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
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That would cause power creep.
When a nail stick out of your fence, you hammer it in, you don't pull all the others out to match.
unless your fence is a decaying, wobbly, poorly anchored piece of *** to begin with.
then you make serious repairs to it or tear it down and build a new one. <shrug>
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