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do you think sorcs should have pets?
Heyodude
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im a solid no on this one, pets have always been a gimmick to me, sorc was better back when it had 3 bars as its defining class feature. ZOS sucks at pets so i dont know why they insist on pushing them into the game.
do you think sorcs should have pets? 208 votes
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs have always had pets. ZOS wants Sorcs to have pets so bad they even gave Stam Sorcs a pet.
Doesn't mean you have to play a PetSorc build, but I don't think you've got a chance at trading in your pets for the Overload 3rd Bar back.12 -
dem0n1k✭✭✭✭✭
✭I miss the overload bar as much as the next sorc.. but no need to remove the daedric summoning skill line... just gimme dat overload bar back!
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Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yesYes, and it's in the original concept. But I also feel with 3 special effects (lightning, dark magic, and daedric summoning) they are a bit overloaded which means they have too few skills to support the power fantasy of all three, when the devs also have to allocate some skills to be more PvP oriented.
For them to include Conjuration is in previous games and in Lore.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Classes#Sorcerer
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Sorcerer#Sorcerer
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Sorcerer
And until the Warden, it was the class that got saddled with pets. Even the warden only has one pet, and not a daedric one. The rest are just animations.
The daedric summoning power fantasy has to go somewhere and probably ZOS couldn't piece together a big enough skill set focussing on it so it got left on the Sorcerer.Edited by Dusk_Coven on October 1, 2019 6:41AM1 -
thorwyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They should have the OPTION to have pets but they should not be REQUIRED to.And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon11 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would prefer all pets be duration based and single bar.PS NA
Have played all classes.
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Heyodude✭✭✭noVaranisArano wrote: »Sorcs have always had pets. ZOS wants Sorcs to have pets so bad they even gave Stam Sorcs a pet.
Doesn't mean you have to play a PetSorc build, but I don't think you've got a chance at trading in your pets for the Overload 3rd Bar back.
theyre so fing stupid though, low damage, can pull aggro eat buffs, take heals and absurdly long time to recast when they inevitably die from face pulling a room. 3rd bar was actually useful and took skill to pull off.1 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yesYes, but not this clunky 2 bar idiocy. Behavior should be rewritten completely at this point. Not completely against permanent ones as some peeps like it but all of them? 15-30 sec summons will be just a perfect fit, at least may save some bar space and not being a constant distraction.0 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yestheyre so fing stupid though, low damage, can pull aggro eat buffs, take heals and absurdly long time to recast when they inevitably die from face pulling a room. 3rd bar was actually useful and took skill to pull off.
Your question was "do you think sorcs should have pets", not "are pets difficult to handle".
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭noShow me a pet that works confortably for the user and isn´t considered OP by a large part of the community and i´ll change my mind.<Noricum>
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Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yesShow me a pet that works confortably for the user and isn´t considered OP by a large part of the community and i´ll change my mind.
I think an interesting idea might be to make dots or aoe with daedric creature ANIMATION. Not an actual pet you can interact with, just graphics. Sort of like the Warden creature attacks.
Not sure if that would satisfy the power fantasy of people who want an actual daedric summon though.2 -
Tyrion87✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭noI would like ZOS to remove Daederic Summoning skill line completely and introduce a new summoner class instead while making sorcerer more... like a sorcerer?
I mean... when a new player, who has played some other fantasy games before, chooses sorcerer considering it to be a mage-type class based on elements and destruction. What a disappointment it is for him when Dark Magic occurs to be a boring skill line except for Frags, Daedric Summoning is just a bunch of awkward pets with outdated visuals while the things he excepted from a sorcerer are included in only one tree - Storm Calling - dedicated to only one element.
Sorcerer class in ESO is very awkard and a total mess. The name of a class is very misleading as its toolkit is just an incoherent bunch of thematically unrelated spells.
As for overload: now it's trash and previously used mostly for a third bar which was not that good as well. This ulti should be more relevant, there are so many great things that could be done to make it viable without scrapping its whole concept.4 -
themaddaedra✭✭✭✭✭
✭yesWhat kind of meaningless question is that? Sorcs have always had pets. What's the point here?
If you are missing 3rd bar just make a thread about it instead of reflecting the problem to irrelevant stuff.PC|EU5 -
Aurie✭✭✭✭✭
✭yesBut I think the Twilight should be redesigned to make it smaller, less flappy and less intrusive.
Also pets should be kept permanent. There is enough to keep tabs on in the way of DOTs, buffs etc without having to constantly recast pets.
If people don't consider them worth the two slots, and there is currently good reason for that, then the answer is to un-nerf them again.4 -
bmnoble✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭yesThey do there is no should about it, one of there whole class skill lines is built around the pets.
The only thing I hate about the pets of the Sorcs and the Wardens bears is blocking interaction with stuff and the flying pet reducing field of vision in some roles during dungeons.
Personally I like the pets, if the ability's did not take up so much bar space I would use them more often on my Sorc, I just don't find the pets as useful as other ability's that I could slot instead.0 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yesaside from their annoying presence, (especially the flappy matriarch) absolutely.0 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yesWhat is next? Wiping sorcs out of the game?
We love our pets, our shields, out streaks and we will use them.
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SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭yesOption, yes. Requirement, no. The flappy bird is annoying and should be smaller or flightless. As ZOS is sucking all class distinctive features from the game, it seems likely that they'll eventually make this a single-bar cast time skill. But, should they do so, the game will have died just a bit more as a result.1 -
kamimark✭✭✭✭yesBack in the day, pets were fantastic. The Clanny tanked and did some damage, the Imp exploded like a good second DPS, the Matriarch healed like nothing else. You paid a price of 1 or 2 skill bar slots for this, and really another slot or two for support skills. Nice trade-off.
Current patch, it's nearly worthless to run any pet. Clanny can't tank, Imp can't burn anything down, Matriarch is helpless. My Sorc main of 5 years is parked until/unless ZOS pulls their head out of some daedric hole and makes Conjuring useful again.
Kitty Rainbow Dash. pick, pick, stab.3 -
EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭yesPets would more popular if we could dye them our own colors and have options in settings to disable viewing pets in towns.
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yesVaranisArano wrote: »Sorcs have always had pets. ZOS wants Sorcs to have pets so bad they even gave Stam Sorcs a pet.
Doesn't mean you have to play a PetSorc build, but I don't think you've got a chance at trading in your pets for the Overload 3rd Bar back.
3rd bar was actually useful and took skill to pull off.
I found it odd you brought up the 3rd bar when complaining about pets as it is totally irrelevant. Besides, as someone who's second character is a Sorc, I found having access to a third bar to be rather unfair. While I did use it, it certainly was not defining.
Do not know what your issue is but it really seems you are not happy with the sorc and are just complaining about everything.Edited by idk on October 1, 2019 1:39PM3 -
CambionDaemon✭✭✭noNo I hate pets, I want proper Daedric summons. They should be back barred spells that I cast, they have 30/60 duration or until killed and then they go back to oblivion. This whole permanent pets is stupid/non lore and they just get in the way everywhere.
Still trying to work out why my Sorcerer summons little Scamps and Twilights, they are the among the weakest of all Daedra, we should be summoning Fire/Ice/Storm/Air Atronachs, Golden Saints etc, not these pathetic creatures. They have shown in previous Spell Crafting footage, the summoning of a Flame Atronach so it is within their power to change the Sorcerer Summoning line (if we have to have it).
But the bottom line, is that non pets Sorcerer must be viable, but at the moment they cannot get the skills/buffs needed because of overloading pet Sorcerers. But then Sorcerer's should be wearing heavy armour and wielding a sword, so who knows what's in store for the future.1 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yesEveryone should have pets"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1
