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A question about the Class identity let's talk (Spoiler alert)
Delparis
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was reading the Class identity let's talk https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/57025
"When you see a player using class abilities, you should have little doubt which class they are playing, and it should look awesome!"
My question is:
How am I supposed to see what ability was used if my opponent cancel its animation ?
Edit: removed the animation cancelling from the title as many seems allergic to it.
Edited by Delparis on September 27, 2019 1:26PM "When you see a player using class abilities, you should have little doubt which class they are playing, and it should look awesome!"
My question is:
How am I supposed to see what ability was used if my opponent cancel its animation ?
Edit: removed the animation cancelling from the title as many seems allergic to it.
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BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As much as I am annoyed by your other threads, this is actually an interesting point.6 -
Kaunas✭✭✭Hi. As a filthy sorc, i think you should stop these topics.
Thank you,
With love, lad from Bretonland6 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So we got from light attacks and LA anim cancel to complaining about bash canceling?
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hi. As a filthy sorc, i think you should stop these topics.
Thank you,
With love, lad from Bretonland
As before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Breton_Island
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bretonnia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany
Or
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:High_Rock
If you're gonna RP, at least, at the very least, the utmost least, know a bit of your in-game lore.
As for OP, an actual answer, particle and ground effects.2 -
MaleAmazon✭✭✭✭✭
✭How am I supposed to see what ability was used if my opponent cancel it's animation ?
Death recap.12 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I mean animations' main thing still shows. If I AC a force pulse, you can still see that part of the animation happen. It just doesn't play the entire action of shoving the staff in the air to cast said force pulse.
Now desyncs like with DK's breath skill being spammed or animations not playing (invisible enemy skills or no telegraphs) are another thing."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0 -
Cerotonin✭✭✭Look at your death recap. Look at your opponent, chances are they’ve buffed themselves up. It’s really easy to tell what class your opponent is playing lol.0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1) Most people here dont care about how glitched animations are due to AC, or how bad it looks.
They just care for effectiveness.
They think that AC is something difficult to "mAsteR" and they fool themselves into thinking that they are geniuses and better than the majority of players, when in fact everybody can learn to AC within 20min to a week.
For them, in their imagination, AC is a tool that makes them stronger and they are not going to let go.
If there was a glitched feature as ugly as animation cancelling, let's say their character would twerk their ass while masking a burst ability line up, they would still want it in the game.
2) Then there is the active combat argument....
Please. Gw2 and Tera had active combat. Even bdo is doing better.
In eso you use the same rotation no matter what your enemy is: roque brawler nuker tank.
Pressure turtling
Pressure turtling
Proc burst
Pressure turtling.
No action/reaction.
Just rotation.
3) Then we got Zos. Make combat feel more impactful and better looking or make some mounts and pets for Crown Store?
4) The solution is plain but not simple to pull off.
a) block, dodge and damage shield should be the only 3 actions to cancel an animation and TERMINATE the previous actions input/output in order for players to react to enemy atks and outplay them.
b) Light atks should be useful in a maner of resource or additional ulty gain, since they are no longer used to add glitched dps
c) all actions except block, dodge and damage shield should activate at the COMPLETION of the animation. Block, dodge and damage shields should take place at a quicker speed.
d) channeling abilities should input/output on a predetermined time space. 0.5s?? They should break if the target creates a reasonable distance or if the caster is CCd.
e) bash should not deal dmg. Only Slam, the SnB ability should do that. Bash should remain an interrupting technique.
But oh well. Not gonna happen.
Edited by GeorgeBlack on September 27, 2019 1:10PM3 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Come on guys, you are being harsh on Delparis. He even waited like 2-3 days from the last post!2 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Maybe the OP tries to block cancel Jabs on his magplar. That would explain why he thinks that magplar is weak right now.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.2 -
Naftal✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Who are you trying to impress?
Why are you trying to impress OP?1 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭A bunch of cowards and weirdos ganging up on one person behind your screens.
You dont like the persons topics, dont comment. Let them dissapear to page 4.
But how else would you feel good about yourselves?
There should be forum rules about such behaviour.
Making stupid remarks of low quality humour that dont add to anything of significance to make a conversation.Edited by GeorgeBlack on September 27, 2019 12:53PM2 -
Kaunas✭✭✭Hi. As a filthy sorc, i think you should stop these topics.
Thank you,
With love, lad from Bretonland
As before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Breton_Island
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bretonnia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany
Or
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:High_Rock
If you're gonna RP, at least, at the very least, the utmost least, know a bit of your in-game lore.
As for OP, an actual answer, particle and ground effects.
Bruh with full love.. my rp lore to the games lore is posted in my old comments, it fits dw. + respect for keeping lore alive.0 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Who are you trying to impress?
Not you, don't worry.
Not even in a century0 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭Good point. Though, I take all communication from ZoS with a grain of salt because they just say whatever they want from a month to month basis.1 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You can still clearly see what is being used, lets go with the example of engulfing Flames.
Player A casts engulfing Flames, you see the Animation of the character casting and you see the effect of the ability itself aka the flame breath coming out of Player A´s character.
Now Player B casts engulfing Flames but swap cancels the Animation of the character casting and you still see the effect of the ability itself aka the flame breath coming out of Player B´s character.
Player C does the same as Player A and B, only that he cancels the Animation with a dodgeroll and, as before, you still see the effect of the ability itself.
Conclusion: You can still see which ability was used based on the abilities effect, in fact in PvP I look more at the actual effect than the Position of the weapon arm of the character model to see what my Opponent is doing.Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.0 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Spamming the same topic multiple times was against forums rules last I checked. This is probably your fifth post against AC in a month.
@ZOS_RogerJ
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ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »A bunch of cowards and weirdos ganging up on one person behind your screens.
You dont like the persons topics, dont comment. Let them dissapear to page 4.
But how else would you feel good about yourselves?
There should be forum rules about such behaviour.
If you're referring to the nerf loving OP, well... It's a public forum. As long as no one is being offensive, the debate is valid, and questioning the validity of your counterpart is just as important in any debate as the arguments are. In this particular case, delparis does have a solid valid question, but he/she turned themselves into a forum meme at this point and this turns his posts into less serious posts. This fact is just as sad as it is funny.
As for me, I'm really bothered by flooding too. We had so many topics already about both AC and the Deep Dive news, so this here thread is, by it's own recognition in the title, flooding. Flooding isn't allowed here.
Why do you expect me to take a self proclaimed flooding post seriously, even if it raises a valid point? OP is being objectively and willingly obnoxious on this one.1 -
Kuramas9tails✭✭✭✭✭
✭MaleAmazon wrote: »How am I supposed to see what ability was used if my opponent cancel it's animation ?
Death recap.
Well that doesn't look awesome thenYour friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »A bunch of cowards and weirdos ganging up on one person behind your screens.
You dont like the persons topics, dont comment. Let them dissapear to page 4.
But how else would you feel good about yourselves?
There should be forum rules about such behaviour.
If you're referring to the nerf loving OP, well... It's a public forum. As long as no one is being offensive, the debate is valid, and questioning the validity of your counterpart is just as important in any debate as the arguments are. In this particular case, delparis does have a solid valid question, but he/she turned themselves into a forum meme at this point and this turns his posts into less serious posts. This fact is just as sad as it is funny.
As for me, I'm really bothered by flooding too. We had so many topics already about both AC and the Deep Dive news, so this here thread is, by it's own recognition in the title, flooding. Flooding isn't allowed here.
Why do you expect me to take a self proclaimed flooding post seriously, even if it raises a valid point? OP is being objectively and willingly obnoxious on this one.
Here you are posting to a topic you deem not worthy. You do seem compelled to get involved. Serious or not, it is serious for you to try to get attention at the OPs expense. Nough said with you. Ive let my post on the real topic. Hf0 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭Spamming the same topic multiple times was against forums rules last I checked. This is probably your fifth post against AC in a month.
@ZOS_RogerJ
Well I didn't ask for a fix (again).
This is just a legitimate question following my reading of the Class identity let's talk
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Verbal_Earthworm✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hi. As a filthy sorc, i think you should stop these topics.
Thank you,
With love, lad from Bretonland
As before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Breton_Island
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bretonnia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany
Or
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:High_Rock
If you're gonna RP, at least, at the very least, the utmost least, know a bit of your in-game lore.
As for OP, an actual answer, particle and ground effects.
If you are going to belittle others for getting their facts wrong, perhaps you should correct your signature first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe
Emphasis on Allan
Edited by Verbal_Earthworm on September 27, 2019 1:10PM0
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