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Class Identity: What's Yours?
MopeyHat
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There was a long article posted about class identity today, and I know a lot of people are having issues with it, including myself. So, it had me curious: what is your everyone's vision for their favorite class? And what issues do you have with it right now? (Or multiple classes if you want.)
For me personally, I really like magicka sorcerer. Someone on the other thread mentioned Hurricane for stamina sorcerer; alongside it is Storm for magicka sorcerer. Tearing through a battle with that skill and Streak are really my favorite things. The class's movement is its strength.
My main issues were:
In PvP: glitchy Streak and having to pull out an ice staff or Time Stop to have an effective slow. I guess they're supposedly fixing the streak bug, which is nice, but I think Streak is going to be way behind BoL next patch. I don't really like having to run away from battle but my CC is just not quite configured for it.
In PvE: Pets. I hate running pets, and I really really hate that they have been the top dog in sorc DPS for a long time. Of course that doesn't mean I wanted them nerfed to the ground, just brought in to closer balance or had a bigger trade-off.
For me personally, I really like magicka sorcerer. Someone on the other thread mentioned Hurricane for stamina sorcerer; alongside it is Storm for magicka sorcerer. Tearing through a battle with that skill and Streak are really my favorite things. The class's movement is its strength.
My main issues were:
In PvP: glitchy Streak and having to pull out an ice staff or Time Stop to have an effective slow. I guess they're supposedly fixing the streak bug, which is nice, but I think Streak is going to be way behind BoL next patch. I don't really like having to run away from battle but my CC is just not quite configured for it.
In PvE: Pets. I hate running pets, and I really really hate that they have been the top dog in sorc DPS for a long time. Of course that doesn't mean I wanted them nerfed to the ground, just brought in to closer balance or had a bigger trade-off.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My main is a MagDK.
Power Fantasy: Earth to pin my enemies, Fire to burn them down, and I'm as hard to kill as a dragon (or harder, now that dragon hunts are a thing.)
Play Pattern: Locking down my enemies so I can pressure them with constant damage over time. To quote the Devs, my DK is "attrition-based," and so I lack an execute or big burst damage skill.
Problems: ZOS balances me like I'm an ideal PVE tank, so heals and DPS consistently lag behind. Worse, the DOT nerfs are going to hit my "attrition-based" Play Pattern like an arrow to the knee.3 -
Kaunas✭✭✭While my backstory is still unknown even to me, since running from the sea monsters blind, i come from Bretonland, im nearly 68 years old, still doing good and using my magic to see the area around me. Why im blind im still unsure.. need to find the place i grew up in i guess. I dont use summoned pets, i just use pure magic to smite whatever foe down back to oblivion.
K thats all the RP i have atm, breton magsorc burst damage and semi solo player so i supply support to myself. Am doing good how u fam?
Edit im not actually that old. Am still a youngling compared to the eso stats. Just at 500hours at the game im already end-gaming with roleplay, dont judge.Edited by Kaunas on September 26, 2019 4:17PM0 -
Kagukan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Personally I think a class should have a main role, tank, healer, dps, support, ect. If every class can fill every role equally is there really class identity at all or is it this class uses elements, this class uses poison?4 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There was a long article posted about class identity today, and I know a lot of people are having issues with it, including myself. So, it had me curious: what is your everyone's vision for their favorite class? And what issues do you have with it right now? (Or multiple classes if you want.)
For me personally, I really like magicka sorcerer. Someone on the other thread mentioned Hurricane for stamina sorcerer; alongside it is Storm for magicka sorcerer. Tearing through a battle with that skill and Streak are really my favorite things. The class's movement is its strength.
My main issues were:
In PvP: glitchy Streak and having to pull out an ice staff or Time Stop to have an effective slow. I guess they're supposedly fixing the streak bug, which is nice, but I think Streak is going to be way behind BoL next patch. I don't really like having to run away from battle but my CC is just not quite configured for it.
In PvE: Pets. I hate running pets, and I really really hate that they have been the top dog in sorc DPS for a long time. Of course that doesn't mean I wanted them nerfed to the ground, just brought in to closer balance or had a bigger trade-off.
The article seemed fine to me. "Class identity" has always been an ambiguous phrase to me and I thought they described it about as well as anyone could... though the term "power fantasy" kind of made me laugh for some reason.
Their goals are clearly articulated: they want each class to be able to perform all three combat roles in their own unique way. That pretty much sums up the lengthy article IMHO.
So I guess my Templar's "class identity" is intact - because he can DPS, Tank, and heal - all by using the power of light and the sun. ^^Edited by Jeremy on September 26, 2019 4:25PM1 -
StrandedMonkey✭✭✭✭Daily Reminder that sorcerers have a new bound armaments skill please check it out.0 -
MopeyHat✭✭✭✭There was a long article posted about class identity today, and I know a lot of people are having issues with it, including myself. So, it had me curious: what is your everyone's vision for their favorite class? And what issues do you have with it right now? (Or multiple classes if you want.)
For me personally, I really like magicka sorcerer. Someone on the other thread mentioned Hurricane for stamina sorcerer; alongside it is Storm for magicka sorcerer. Tearing through a battle with that skill and Streak are really my favorite things. The class's movement is its strength.
My main issues were:
In PvP: glitchy Streak and having to pull out an ice staff or Time Stop to have an effective slow. I guess they're supposedly fixing the streak bug, which is nice, but I think Streak is going to be way behind BoL next patch. I don't really like having to run away from battle but my CC is just not quite configured for it.
In PvE: Pets. I hate running pets, and I really really hate that they have been the top dog in sorc DPS for a long time. Of course that doesn't mean I wanted them nerfed to the ground, just brought in to closer balance or had a bigger trade-off.
The article seemed fine to me. "Class identity" has always been an ambiguous phrase to me and I thought they described it about as well as anyone could... though the term "power fantasy" kind of made me laugh for some reason.
Their goals are clearly articulated: they want each class to be able to perform all three combat roles in their own unique way. That pretty much sums up the lengthy article IMHO.
So I guess my Templar's "class identity" is intact - because he can DPS, Tank, and heal - all by using the power of light and the sun. ^^
I mean issues with class identity, not necessarily the article, sorry ^^;
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Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There was a long article posted about class identity today, and I know a lot of people are having issues with it, including myself. So, it had me curious: what is your everyone's vision for their favorite class? And what issues do you have with it right now? (Or multiple classes if you want.)
For me personally, I really like magicka sorcerer. Someone on the other thread mentioned Hurricane for stamina sorcerer; alongside it is Storm for magicka sorcerer. Tearing through a battle with that skill and Streak are really my favorite things. The class's movement is its strength.
My main issues were:
In PvP: glitchy Streak and having to pull out an ice staff or Time Stop to have an effective slow. I guess they're supposedly fixing the streak bug, which is nice, but I think Streak is going to be way behind BoL next patch. I don't really like having to run away from battle but my CC is just not quite configured for it.
In PvE: Pets. I hate running pets, and I really really hate that they have been the top dog in sorc DPS for a long time. Of course that doesn't mean I wanted them nerfed to the ground, just brought in to closer balance or had a bigger trade-off.
The article seemed fine to me. "Class identity" has always been an ambiguous phrase to me and I thought they described it about as well as anyone could... though the term "power fantasy" kind of made me laugh for some reason.
Their goals are clearly articulated: they want each class to be able to perform all three combat roles in their own unique way. That pretty much sums up the lengthy article IMHO.
So I guess my Templar's "class identity" is intact - because he can DPS, Tank, and heal - all by using the power of light and the sun. ^^
I mean issues with class identity, not necessarily the article, sorry ^^;
I tried to touch on that in the end some.
But It seems to me there is a conflict here between how the developers see "class identity" and how many of their critics do. The developers envision it as each class being able to perform all three combat roles in their own unique way - where as many of the players who are critical of their efforts seem to consider it the exact opposite - and that each class should have their own designated focus.
Since you cannot change classes on this game - I tend to side with the developers on this one.Edited by Jeremy on September 26, 2019 4:40PM0 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭The way I identify the different classes is basically how they were described to me during beta character generation. There's obviously a disconnect now.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!1 -
LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I play a Magicka DK, primarily in Cyrodiil, Imperial City and occasionally in Battlegrounds.
In reality, due to ZOS neutering the class and making light armor a death sentence to those who wear it, I am nothing more than a target dummy and DPS meter for other classes and play styles.0 -
Camb0Sl1ce✭✭✭When i picked sorcerer at console launch i did so because of its lightning theme, imo that was the sorcerers identity, not a daedric baby sitter. Now sorcerers don't even use their class aoe skill in pve the execute isn't worth slotting and to hit the best possible dps pets are mandatory.3
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That of a powerful Druid of the Wild:
One with Nature
Friend of Animals
Master of Magic"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
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