ZOS, Please Re-enable Mementos for Usage in Cyrodiil, Imperial City, and Battlegrounds

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Many millennium ago, Memento Collectibles usage was very prevalent within Cyrodiil.

However, the pantheon of ZOS Gods have since outlawed their Mementos Collectibles repeated use and abuse, despite the fact that ZOS sells many of these colorful, glowy, and well-animated trinkets in the crown store for cash, crowns, and gems.
Despite many Mementos being paid for with crowns or gems, or the vast majority of free Mementos from quest rewards and holiday events, players can no longer enjoy the free and harmless usage of their Mementos Collectibles within Cyrodiil and beyond, especially not during holidays and ingame double-XP events.

Witchmother's Whistle (Halloween / Witchmother's Festival x2 XP buff memento)
Breda's Bottomless Mead Mug (New Year's / New Life Festival x2 XP buff memento)
The Pie of Misrule (April Fools / Jester's Festival x2 XP buff memento)
The annual Jubilee Cakes (ESO PC launch anniversary x2 XP buff memento)
All of these holiday event Mementos Collectibles still cannot be used while in Cyrodiil, The Imperial City, nor Battlegrounds.

Join me, the Master of Mementos, in making Mementos great again!

Memento Collage/Montage: https://imgur.com/a/jD9jBwX

Behold, the Emperor of Crows!

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Mementos are fun, cool, and harmless. So, please re-enable Mementos Collectibles in the PVP zones? We would like our fun back. Mementos = More fun for everyone!

OG_Kaveman · September 2019

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

OG_Kaveman · September 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

Honestly, no idea, I never use momentos or costumes. That is just the reason I have read Everytime this subject is brought up.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

Honestly, no idea, I never use momentos or costumes. That is just the reason I have read Everytime this subject is brought up.

Linaleah · September 2019

if I were to guess a reason, I'd say its yet another stopgap measure to improve performance. I wouldn't be surprised if memento effects caused strain on the server, and so they were disabled for that reason.

OG_Kaveman · September 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

Honestly, no idea, I never use momentos or costumes. That is just the reason I have read Everytime this subject is brought up.

Man, I wasn't saying you were wrong about it not being a momentos, I was simply telling you what I have read here about this subject.

regime211 · September 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Many millennium ago, Memento Collectibles usage was very prevalent within Cyrodiil.

However, the pantheon of ZOS Gods have since outlawed their Mementos Collectibles repeated use and abuse, despite the fact that ZOS sells many of these colorful, glowy, and well-animated trinkets in the crown store for cash, crowns, and gems.
Despite many Mementos being paid for with crowns or gems, or the vast majority of free Mementos from quest rewards and holiday events, players can no longer enjoy the free and harmless usage of their Mementos Collectibles within Cyrodiil and beyond, especially not during holidays and ingame double-XP events.

Witchmother's Whistle (Halloween / Witchmother's Festival x2 XP buff memento)
Breda's Bottomless Mead Mug (New Year's / New Life Festival x2 XP buff memento)
The Pie of Misrule (April Fools / Jester's Festival x2 XP buff memento)
The annual Jubilee Cakes (ESO PC launch anniversary x2 XP buff memento)
All of these holiday event Mementos Collectibles still cannot be used while in Cyrodiil, The Imperial City, nor Battlegrounds.

Join me, the Master of Mementos, in making Mementos great again!
Memento Collage/Montage: https://imgur.com/a/jD9jBwX

Behold, the Emperor of Crows!
@ZOS_BrianWheeler Mementos are fun, cool, and harmless. So, please re-enable Mementos Collectibles in the PVP zones? We would like our fun back. Mementos = More fun for everyone!

No it added to the lag

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

Honestly, no idea, I never use momentos or costumes. That is just the reason I have read Everytime this subject is brought up.

Man, I wasn't saying you were wrong about it not being a momentos, I was simply telling you what I have read here about this subject.

I know, I was simply providing the picture for quick and easy reference. The Kollopi Essence disguise provides almost near-invisibility, but you also have the bugs/swarm that fly in and around it, too. Anyway, ZOS fixed this item a long time ago. It even says it cannot be used in Cyrodiil in the item's description.
Most players use guild tabards in the Appearance/Costume/Disguise slot, too, anyways.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Linaleah wrote: »

if I were to guess a reason, I'd say its yet another stopgap measure to improve performance. I wouldn't be surprised if memento effects caused strain on the server, and so they were disabled for that reason.

Good thing we're receiving those much-needed L33T 'performance improvements' in the Q4 2019 & Q1 2020 ESO updates.

Maybe ZOS will re-enable Mementos by then.

UntilValhalla13 · September 2019

Don't forget the one that buffs your next fire attack. Fetish of anger, or something.

SosRuvaak · September 2019

the tab system should remove all issues with people not being able to see enemy players that have an active trinket going. i know theres some that make you transparent.

Hapexamendios · September 2019

Mementos in Cyrodil...

Yes!

Mudball t-bagging!

susmitds · September 2019

I don't understand how the Kollopi Essence will even matter. Shuffle makes players even more transparent anyways.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Hapexamendios wrote: »

Mementos in Cyrodil...

Yes!

Mudball t-bagging!

ZOS can disable my Mudball Memento, but they cannot take away my Mudball items! Mwahahaha!

geonsocal · September 2019

I remember how excited I was to use the one memento that caused crows to pick at a corpse...from what I remember it was a pretty weak animation...

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

geonsocal wrote: »

I remember how excited I was to use the one memento that caused crows to pick at a corpse...from what I remember it was a pretty weak animation...

Yeah, the Blackfeather Court Whistle memento was one of the first mementos that I ever received, way back when, shortly after launch. It's from Crow's Wood, the Davon's Watch/Stonefalls public dungeon.

Years later, now, we have access to things like the Swarm of Crows (3-minute Crow Swarm aura), the Crow's Calling (Crow perches on your arm for a few seconds), and the Murderous Strike (Mudball but in suicide-Crow form), and tons of other mementos. Most of the good ones lately are crown store/crown gem only. But, even still, can't use any of them in Cyrodiil or PvP at all -- even though they have zero combat effect and are purely cosmetic such as costumes, polymorphs, and so on.

Turelus · September 2019

I wish they all still worked.

The old days of using the "fake scroll" beam was awesome and actually an interesting sandbox mechanic.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Turelus wrote: »

I wish they all still worked.

The old days of using the "fake scroll" beam was awesome and actually an interesting sandbox mechanic.

Finvir's Trinket, from Bad Man's Hollow in Daggerfall/Glenumbra. It provides a good source of vertical light, like a Skyshard or Elder Scroll.

Bashev · September 2019

Back before one tamriel i remember using a memento that boost fire damage with 5% and it had 30s CD. Also there were a bear trap that immobilized, similar to the new fighters guild trap. It was a cool.

Master_Fluff · September 2019

Those were fun days in Cyrodiil.

Coatmagic · September 2019

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

As long as the one that makes you practically invisible is in the game, don't hold your breath for that to happen.

You mean the Kollopi Essence disguise/costume from Greenshade? That's not even a Memento.

Honestly, no idea, I never use momentos or costumes. That is just the reason I have read Everytime this subject is brought up.

Man, I wasn't saying you were wrong about it not being a momentos, I was simply telling you what I have read here about this subject.

I know, I was simply providing the picture for quick and easy reference. The Kollopi Essence disguise provides almost near-invisibility, but you also have the bugs/swarm that fly in and around it, too. Anyway, ZOS fixed this item a long time ago. It even says it cannot be used in Cyrodiil in the item's description.
Most players use guild tabards in the Appearance/Costume/Disguise slot, too, anyways.

That needs to be done to so many other things

Katheriah · September 2019

Yes, let's kill performance even more!

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Katheriah wrote: »

Yes, let's kill performance even more!

Sure, why not?

Looking Cool > 'Performance'

Or maybe you haven't heard of the Q4 2019 & Q1 2020 'performance improvements' that were promised on ZOS's road-map for ESO. Either way, I also greatly question the validity that Mementos in Cyrodiil even effect performance on a noticeable level. Perhaps it is simply time to upgrade your computer rig and/or internet speed to modern MMORPG standards?

turlisley · September 2019

Agreed. @ZOS_BrianWheeler Bring back Mementos! Especially the 3-minute 'auras' that function like costumes/polymorphs.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

turlisley wrote: »

Agreed. @ZOS_BrianWheeler Bring back Mementos! Especially the 3-minute 'auras' that function like costumes/polymorphs.

Especially since players, including myself, paid like 100 crown gems for these 3-minute 'auras' and cannot even ever use them.

Dreyloch · September 2019

The reason this was done was to help eliminate the semblance of trolling/kids crying because the care bears thought they were being taunted and whatnot when they were killed in Cyrodiil. I really don't think it was so much a performance thing. But I'm not about to look it up. You can still do emotes to get yer rocks off after killing someone though. If you want.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

Dreyloch wrote: »

The reason this was done was to help eliminate the semblance of trolling/kids crying because the care bears thought they were being taunted and whatnot when they were killed in Cyrodiil. I really don't think it was so much a performance thing. But I'm not about to look it up. You can still do emotes to get yer rocks off after killing someone though. If you want.

I don't recall ever seeing an official statement from ZOS about why Mementos were disabled. ZOS just decided to disable them all in one patch, several months/years ago.
Maybe some day @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno and company would stop lurking and comment or re-enable them. Especially since the majority of Mementos cost real-money and crown gems these days versus the free base-game quest-reward Mementos.
Mementos are non-combat cosmetic effects just like costumes and emotes, which are both allowed in PvP zones; so, therefore, Mementos should be re-enabled.

turlisley · October 2019

The Witchmother's Festival/Halloween event is great; but, just like all other double XP events (NewYear/NewLife, AprilFools/JestersFestival, and the ESO PC launch Anniversary) players still cannot use the event Memento / XP buff within Cyrodiil nor The Imperial City.
Players cannot even use Mementos from within Cyrodiil & Imperial City's safe-zone areas at the alliance faction bases. It makes zero sense. The fact that Mementos are unusable puts excess burdens on players, forcing them to leave the zone every 2 hours in order to refresh the XP/event buff and is such a hassle to then have to re-queue, especially during prime-time, or when one is in an active group or deep into enemy territory, etc. when the event buff expires.
ESO and Cyrodiil would be a lot more fun if players' hard-earned Collectibles & Mementos were actually usable in the zone anywhere and at any time; otherwise, what is the point in having them in the first place?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_RobGarrett