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Sorcs.... just put them out of the misery already.....
ForsakenSin
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Hey there i know its been a long long time since i wrote anything but honestly i felt burned out from all of the updates and nerfes seeing some of my friends leave the game due to nerfs, guilds broke up and after ive seen this new patch i fell more down... which made me play this game less and less.
And here we just go again...
Summon Unstable Familiar:
Reduced the damage of this ability and its morphs’ basic attack by approximately 17%.
Increased the cost of the special activate of this ability and the Volatile Familiar morph to 4500, up from 2808.
Lightning Splash:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased the base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 33%.
And these skills are usually what sorcs use
Wall of Elements:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 32%.
Mages Guild
Entropy:
This ability and the Structured Entropy morph no longer grant Major Sorcery.
Decreased the damage dealt of all 3 versions of this ability by 50%.
Reduced the base cost of these abilities to 2700, down from 2970.
Degeneration (morph): This morph no longer grants Magicka back when hitting an enemy affected by the Damage over Time, but continues to grant Major Sorcery for its original duration.
Anyone else fells like me ? Having that small hope that there will be a buff for the sorc is some way and every time getting
just disappointed ... nerf after nerf after nerf ?
but at least we got New Moon Crown Crate right?...right...? sigh.....
Edited by ForsakenSin on September 17, 2019 10:47PM And here we just go again...
Summon Unstable Familiar:
Reduced the damage of this ability and its morphs’ basic attack by approximately 17%.
Increased the cost of the special activate of this ability and the Volatile Familiar morph to 4500, up from 2808.
Lightning Splash:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased the base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 33%.
And these skills are usually what sorcs use
Wall of Elements:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 32%.
Mages Guild
Entropy:
This ability and the Structured Entropy morph no longer grant Major Sorcery.
Decreased the damage dealt of all 3 versions of this ability by 50%.
Reduced the base cost of these abilities to 2700, down from 2970.
Degeneration (morph): This morph no longer grants Magicka back when hitting an enemy affected by the Damage over Time, but continues to grant Major Sorcery for its original duration.
Anyone else fells like me ? Having that small hope that there will be a buff for the sorc is some way and every time getting
just disappointed ... nerf after nerf after nerf ?
but at least we got New Moon Crown Crate right?...right...? sigh.....
"By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)
However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)
Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
"You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."
"You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Necro got pwned too. Probably worse than sorc. Straight damage nerfs and 0 compensation
Warden got a new hurricane like ability in artic
I'm not too pleased4 -
Ucarious✭✭✭Why are you upset about that losing major sorcery when they gave surge, an amazing heal on crits skill, major sorcery now? Just slap surge on your bar that's what I'm gonna do, imho a 3-4k+ heal on crits with major sorcery is WAY more valuable than a nerfed to *** DoT that gives major sorcery.
Aside from that, you also overlooked the increased twilight healing to levels of the templar burst heal with no mention of shield nerfs. Sorcerer is going to be in a pretty good spot next patch for sure.Edited by Ucarious on September 17, 2019 12:07AM3 -
RighteousBacon✭✭✭✭I felt like MagSorc got ripped apart this patch at first too, but honeslty only our defense got rekt. I’m talking from a PvP standpoint and that’s it.
I’ve switched to running two dots and no spammable. Sure my defense mostly relies on streaking and spamming resto ult but hey, it’s all we have rn. The nerf to shields hit us hard. I had to switch from spinners to crafty to compensate. Still isn’t as strong as it used to be but whatever. If we get a buff to shields in some way next patch sorc will be top tier again. Rn we only really lack defense and sustain since harness was made almost useless.
I think if any buff is in order it should be a slight increase in the effectiveness of the harness magical return and perhaps a buff to the base factor of shield strength. That way all the classes get some shield back, and stacking magicka isn’t the meta anymore. That may have its problems though since then plebs will have bigger shields without knowing why...idk man. We just need some shield help2 -
Ucarious✭✭✭RighteousBacon wrote: »I felt like MagSorc got ripped apart this patch at first too, but honeslty only our defense got rekt. I’m talking from a PvP standpoint and that’s it.
I’ve switched to running two dots and no spammable. Sure my defense mostly relies on streaking and spamming resto ult but hey, it’s all we have rn. The nerf to shields hit us hard. I had to switch from spinners to crafty to compensate. Still isn’t as strong as it used to be but whatever. If we get a buff to shields in some way next patch sorc will be top tier again. Rn we only really lack defense and sustain since harness was made almost useless.
I think if any buff is in order it should be a slight increase in the effectiveness of the harness magical return and perhaps a buff to the base factor of shield strength. That way all the classes get some shield back, and stacking magicka isn’t the meta anymore. That may have its problems though since then plebs will have bigger shields without knowing why...idk man. We just need some shield help
And this is why I have a nord xD
But I'm going to have to say wait and see what happens on the pts and stuff, with the hard nerfs to DoTs along with all this other stuff your defense might no longer feel that lacking.Edited by Ucarious on September 17, 2019 12:18AM0 -
Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭they gave back something that should never have been taken away in the 1st place with surge so thats not a buff just a roll back, the nerf to the scamp making damage stack off max stamina is a huge nerf to mag sorcs.
this is the second patch in a row key skills for a mag sorc/pet sorc have had cost increases and damage reductions.
it almost feels that STAM is the new META for ALL class's and the changes are mostly PvP driven. As for class identity the only thing i can conclude from these 1st patch notes is a Mag/pet Sorc is now the next meta healer for both PvP and PvE and if you want to Dps you will have to go STAM.
thats just my 2cents worth i could be wrong
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NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭All of that is dot reduction, everyone get hit with that.
The new Ball of Lightning will be very nice offensively, and Twilight is a 360 degree Honor the Dead for 2 people.0 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭Magsorcs will be the new meta. They not only got back their old power surge but the better version that is crit surge which has more healing (why is nobody talking about this?). They also don't rely on the dots that were nerfed to oblivion and get to keep access to the buffed scale breaker hots to couple with a more powerful matriarch heal.
So basically stronger surge heals, hots, matriarch heal and all this coupled with ward. Not to mention strong burst, finisher, CC, mobility, snare immunity and an escape.
Now that the heat will be gone from magplars the sheep will turn to magsorc. Nerf threads incoming.Edited by Calboy on September 17, 2019 9:49AM5 -
chrightt✭✭✭✭Lol! SORC are still the meta class. They must be balanced.
So, NERF SORC!
Sometimes I think people like you are sarcastic, but I know you're actually just clueless. TFW you don't know *** about sorcs, never played a sorc, and think sorcs are OP just cause some idiot on forums shouts sorcs are OP. I have a magsorc and its sitting on the bench because magplars and stam classes are just outperforming sorcs by a million miles. Sorcs are near the middle of the tier list atm and is no way OP. Seriously, why are there so many of these brain dead nerf sorc comments on forums.2 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Magsorcs will be the new meta. They not only got back their old power surge but the better version that is crit surge which has more healing (why is nobody talking about this?). They also don't rely on the dots that were nerfed to oblivion and get to keep access to the buffed scale breaker hots to couple with a more powerful matriarch heal.
So basically stronger surge heals, hots, matriarch heal and all this coupled with ward. Not to mention strong burst, finisher, CC, mobility, snare immunity and an escape.
Now that the heat will be gone from magplars the sheep will turn to magsorc. Nerf threads incoming.
None of the things you mentioned kills people. Until you can kill all these heavy armor dudes with 30K health with a frag-curse combo, Mag Sorc is not meta and never will be.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭ForsakenSin wrote: »Hey there i know its been a long long time since i wrote anything but honestly i felt burned out from all of the updates and nerfes seeing some of my friends leave the game due to nerfs, guilds broke up and after ive seen this new patch i fell more down... which made me play this game less and less.
And here we just go again...
Summon Unstable Familiar:
Reduced the damage of this ability and its morphs’ basic attack by approximately 17%.
Increased the cost of the special activate of this ability and the Volatile Familiar morph to 4500, up from 2808.
Lightning Splash:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased the base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 33%.
And these skills are usually what sorcs use
Wall of Elements:
Increased the base duration of this ability and its morphs to 10 seconds, up from 8.
Increased base cost to 4950, up from 3024.
Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 32%.
Mages Guild
Entropy:
This ability and the Structured Entropy morph no longer grant Major Sorcery.
Decreased the damage dealt of all 3 versions of this ability by 50%.
Reduced the base cost of these abilities to 2700, down from 2970.
Degeneration (morph): This morph no longer grants Magicka back when hitting an enemy affected by the Damage over Time, but continues to grant Major Sorcery for its original duration.
Anyone else fells like me ? Having that small hope that there will be a buff for the sorc is some way and every time getting
just disappointed ... nerf after nerf after nerf ?
You can't be disappointed if you are like me and realize their is no hope to begin with.2 -
ForsakenSin✭✭✭✭✭
✭FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
You can't be disappointed if you are like me and realize their is no hope to begin with.[/quote]
"By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
"You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sorc really looks like it’s getting buffed to me. Don’t understand the thread.EU | PC | AD1 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What a joke you are.
You got crit surge with maj sorc and reverted matriarch nerf.
All the other mag classes lost maj sorc from entropy.
You make me sick.
The strongest class since the begining of eso that devs DO NOT DARE regulate (they always revert the nerfs) and you still complain.
Tell me:
What buffs did the other classes got in this update?
Do you dare exchange them with your new crit surge?
Weakling coward pew pew ranged player.
Edited by GeorgeBlack on September 18, 2019 12:31AM1 -
NinchiTV✭✭✭✭✭Magsorcs will be the new meta. They not only got back their old power surge but the better version that is crit surge which has more healing (why is nobody talking about this?). They also don't rely on the dots that were nerfed to oblivion and get to keep access to the buffed scale breaker hots to couple with a more powerful matriarch heal.
So basically stronger surge heals, hots, matriarch heal and all this coupled with ward. Not to mention strong burst, finisher, CC, mobility, snare immunity and an escape.
Now that the heat will be gone from magplars the sheep will turn to magsorc. Nerf threads incoming.
this man speaks the truth. The 3 piece sets also look interesting for pumping max mag.0 -
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✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »What a joke you are.
You got crit surge with maj sorc and reverted matriarch nerf.
All the other mag classes lost maj sorc from entropy.
You make me sick.
The strongest class since the begining of eso that devs DO NOT DARE regulate (they always revert the nerfs) and you still complain.
Tell me:
What buffs did the other classes got in this update?
Do you dare exchange them with your new crit surge?
Weakling coward pew pew ranged player.
Ah, let me guess. You're one of those super uber manly players who rush into every battle sword raised and then get mad when picked apart by arrows, magic and battlefield tactics?2 -
chrightt✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »What a joke you are.
You got crit surge with maj sorc and reverted matriarch nerf.
All the other mag classes lost maj sorc from entropy.
You make me sick.
The strongest class since the begining of eso that devs DO NOT DARE regulate (they always revert the nerfs) and you still complain.
Tell me:
What buffs did the other classes got in this update?
Do you dare exchange them with your new crit surge?
Weakling coward pew pew ranged player.
This is kind funny to read. It really tells you the average knowledge an average player possess. Streak is still the main reason why a lot of top Sorcs play sorc. Crit surge is just a bonus that we originally had on power surge. Streak, if you tried it on PTS, is completely ***. What other classes got buffed? Well tbh wardens got buffed this patch. Netch’s passive debuff removal per 5s is incredibly powerful. Dive getting reworked for both stam and mag to be one of the strongest class spammable. Swarm gives minor vulnerability now as well. Permafrost got a tweak, not a nerf. Stronger snare, linger duration, more damage due to longer duration while warden’s arctic wind got buffed to do AoE dot with stun component. Magplar and their “boom baby”. Need I say more? People cry about Sorcs being strong really have never played one. I *** I Sorcs 24/7 because the only thing they’re actually good at is that one burst combo you can tell 3.5 seconds after you start to glow damn purple and if you’re smart enough to track debuff, after another 8.5s. That is literally their only chance to kill you and a single block on the frags, you’re alive!
Do I dare exchange my sorc for other classes? Damn freaking right I dare. Mine has been sitting on the bench the whole U23 as I spammed my dizzy swings on 3 different stam classes and magplar’d my way to 31 kills 1 death 11 assists at 1.3m damage and 570k healed in a single death match. What’s gonna happen when U24 drops? Keep benching my sorc no ***?! I’ve not died to one other than getting furied to death after a group pounces me. Psh, magsorc who cares. If you actually pvp most people will tell you stamsorcs are stronger st the moment in U23 simply because stam classes are just performing better now with an OP spammable and a true execute combo.1 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »What a joke you are.
You got crit surge with maj sorc and reverted matriarch nerf.
All the other mag classes lost maj sorc from entropy.
You make me sick.
The strongest class since the begining of eso that devs DO NOT DARE regulate (they always revert the nerfs) and you still complain.
Tell me:
What buffs did the other classes got in this update?
Do you dare exchange them with your new crit surge?
Weakling coward pew pew ranged player.
This is kind funny to read. It really tells you the average knowledge an average player possess. Streak is still the main reason why a lot of top Sorcs play sorc. Crit surge is just a bonus that we originally had on power surge. Streak, if you tried it on PTS, is completely ***. What other classes got buffed? Well tbh wardens got buffed this patch. Netch’s passive debuff removal per 5s is incredibly powerful. Dive getting reworked for both stam and mag to be one of the strongest class spammable. Swarm gives minor vulnerability now as well. Permafrost got a tweak, not a nerf. Stronger snare, linger duration, more damage due to longer duration while warden’s arctic wind got buffed to do AoE dot with stun component. Magplar and their “boom baby”. Need I say more? People cry about Sorcs being strong really have never played one. I *** I Sorcs 24/7 because the only thing they’re actually good at is that one burst combo you can tell 3.5 seconds after you start to glow damn purple and if you’re smart enough to track debuff, after another 8.5s. That is literally their only chance to kill you and a single block on the frags, you’re alive!
Do I dare exchange my sorc for other classes? Damn freaking right I dare. Mine has been sitting on the bench the whole U23 as I spammed my dizzy swings on 3 different stam classes and magplar’d my way to 31 kills 1 death 11 assists at 1.3m damage and 570k healed in a single death match. What’s gonna happen when U24 drops? Keep benching my sorc no ***?! I’ve not died to one other than getting furied to death after a group pounces me. Psh, magsorc who cares. If you actually pvp most people will tell you stamsorcs are stronger st the moment in U23 simply because stam classes are just performing better now with an OP spammable and a true execute combo.
Long paragraphs of nonsense.
You got 1 button in the form of shields.
You got burst with timed abilities
You got escape tool
You got solid passives that cover your class abilities
You got pets
You got non effort healing
With your light atks you can:
Put pressure while you are on your great defence
Heal through dmg.
You play the strongest class in the 5 years of eso and all you do is complain when you get nerfed and then everything is watered down.
Did you just mention Templar and Wardens buffs?
Do you dare when templar was rubbish until the previous patch and warden only just now was shown love?
Get out of here.
You cried your lungs out about Surge and you got an OP tool that you never even imagined it would happen. Great heal for EVERY crit dmg?
Meanwhile DK has been complaining about how useless our source of Maj brut and maj sorc is.
What did we get?
A big nothing for YEARS.
Sorc gets everything within 3 months.
Edited by GeorgeBlack on September 18, 2019 8:03AM1 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »All the other mag classes lost maj sorc from entropy.
You make me sick.
One morph still get major sorcery.
Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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InvictusApollo✭✭✭✭✭
✭They got several buffs in PvP though. And those PvE enrfs that you listed are universal to all classes so I wouldn't consider them an issue.0 -
Araviel2✭✭✭Ok so If Mag sorc's still were a competitive class, then why did they vanish from all the pvp tournament brackets?
imho it should not be hard to figure out that the class with the worst class healing would fall behind in a heal meta.
and while Sorc's burst's still can be good, its still (RNG) mediocre in comparison to what else is out there, making them fall behind even more.
Still a good class to streak around and Nuke potatoes with though.
Araviel -Professional Zerg surfing mutagen spammer [DC-EU]1 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DoTs buffed -> nerf because soft counter against shields
DoTs nerfed -> nerf because I used themDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU1
