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Animation cancelling isn't intended after all

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Delparis
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Found this in the archive

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  • VaranisArano
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    At this point, its intended.

    There's a tip in the Level Up Advisor explaining how to Light Attack weave. I'm not sure how much more you want.
    Edited by VaranisArano on September 18, 2019 11:27PM
  • D0PAMINE
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    There is a loading screen with a tool tip telling you how to light attack weave, which seems to be what is being discussed.

    Also, unless you feel like being one shotted via mechanics, you need to be able to inturrupt skills to block, dodgeroll etc.


    Edit: would also like to add this is old news. We've known this for years now.
    Edited by D0PAMINE on September 18, 2019 11:30PM
  • redspecter23
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    Your title is misleading. It was unintended at the time, but is now a accepted game mechanic. You could say that it was originally unintended, but saying it's unintended after all isn't really a fair assessment.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    from when? seems to be pretty old if they asking for short term buff tracking (which has been about for awhile now) plus ZOS have never said it was an intended part of combat rather a by product of the combat system itself, the only ppl as far as it can see complaining it is an exploit are those that die alot in PvP because of it
  • Kel
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    As others have said, it was not something that was intended, and once they found out it couldn't be fixed it became embraced as a game mechanic.

    There's a loading screen talking about weaving and your level advisor talks about weaving.

    What once was unintended has become a feature.
  • Elsonso
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    It may be originally unintended, but if they are going to keep it in the game, they need to find a way to teach it. I bet half the players are unaware it even exists.
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  • Darkenarlol
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    delparis is so delparis...
  • Alienoutlaw
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    It may be originally unintended, but if they are going to keep it in the game, they need to find a way to teach it. I bet half the players are unaware it even exists.

    anyone that watches dps videos or build guides will know about animation cancelling and those that dont are probably not that interested, and as stated there is small explanation in the level up guide and on some load screens, i think the word is out there.
    as a side note "if they are going to keep it in the game" its been part of the game since Beta safe to say its staying
    Edited by Alienoutlaw on September 19, 2019 12:00AM
  • crazywolfpusher
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    So.. shall we remove it?

    it would be hilarious if someday is totally removed as a bugfix like they are going to do with mounts infinite stamina :D
    Edited by crazywolfpusher on September 19, 2019 12:02AM
  • Alienoutlaw
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    crazywolfpusher wrote: »
    So.. shall we remove it?

    how? and most importantly why?
  • brandonv516
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    Not intended but not an exploit and not unwelcome.
  • Morgul667
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    Intended now
  • Elsonso
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    crazywolfpusher wrote: »
    So.. shall we remove it?

    No.
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  • TequilaFire
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    Running out of bait subjects? lol
  • ChunkyCat
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    I didn’t intend to reply in this topic... but I’m farming stars.

    So here we are.
  • Vapirko
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    I didn’t intend to reply in this topic... but I’m farming stars.

    So here we are.

    I was going to give you an awesome for literally anything but then you had to go and ask for it...
  • ChunkyCat
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    You can’t handle the truth.
  • Canned_Apples
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    "It was unintended at the time, but now it's intended"

    Only reason why it's now "intended" is because they couldn't find a fix for it soon enough, and now it's become and integral part of the game that they can't (even if they could.)
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    It may be originally unintended, but if they are going to keep it in the game, they need to find a way to teach it. I bet half the players are unaware it even exists.

    They could try reading the loading screen.
  • Reverb
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    Old news. Here’s a 2015 ESO live, where Wrobel acknowledged they "are embracing it. It's a part of the game, and we want people to be doing it". His words. (Edit to embed link)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZtwhYkKSs
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  • UrQuan
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    Old news is old. We've known practically since launch that animation canceling wasn't intended, and for almost as long we've known that ZOS is totally fine with it and consider it to be a smart and skilled thing that players learned to do.
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  • MasterSpatula
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    Did anyone not know this?
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  • Elsonso
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    MehrunesFlagon wrote: »
    lordrichter wrote: »
    It may be originally unintended, but if they are going to keep it in the game, they need to find a way to teach it. I bet half the players are unaware it even exists.

    They could try reading the loading screen.

    Hit or miss, and it is basically a sound bite. They tossed that in there because they don't have anything in the game that explains or trains it, is my guess. Not a suitable replacement, if you ask me.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    FOR THE LAST TIME, IT'S NOW INTENDED.
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    Bring Back Pure Class Build Power
  • Linaleah
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    VaranisArano wrote: »
    At this point, its intended.

    There's a tip in the Level Up Advisor explaining how to Light Attack weave. I'm not sure how much more you want.

    its still not intended, but it IS accepted and promoted now that its here :/

    and no matter how many times ZoS tries to balance the skill lines, morphs etc, now that they now account for animation canceling as something players will/should do - it will still keep the ceiling too high and floor - in a basement, making it all but impossible to balance content in a way that will work well for everyone playing.

    ah well.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • MehrunesFlagon
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    MehrunesFlagon wrote: »
    lordrichter wrote: »
    It may be originally unintended, but if they are going to keep it in the game, they need to find a way to teach it. I bet half the players are unaware it even exists.

    They could try reading the loading screen.

    Hit or miss, and it is basically a sound bite. They tossed that in there because they don't have anything in the game that explains or trains it, is my guess. Not a suitable replacement, if you ask me.

    My point is that there are alot of loading screens,and I do see that one alot myself.
  • woe
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    Animation cancelling with block isn't the same as quick casting skills and cancelling that way.
    uwu
  • Mr_Walker
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    redspecter23 wrote: »
    Your title is misleading. It was unintended at the time, but is now a accepted game mechanic. You could say that it was originally unintended, but saying it's unintended after all isn't really a fair assessment.

    If you have an unintended child, when that child is 40 years old, it doesn't change that he/she was unintended....
  • Ackwalan
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    It was a glitch that ZOS tired to fix for a year. They couldn't fix it, so ZOS just accepted it.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    deflorate wrote: »
    Animation cancelling with block isn't the same as quick casting skills and cancelling that way.

    All AC works on the same principle.
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