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Healer Changes on PTS

Iskiab
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So I was wondering what everyone though about the healing changes on PTS. I’m considering changing classes, but as always the devil’s in how abilities work or synergize with others rather than tooltips. Some advice for what I’m looking for:

DK Healer -

Stonefist got a large buff. It heals two targets, deals flame damage and the healing amount’s been increased. Range decreased to 15m or something like that on the attack, but I think the range on the heal is still 28m. Any bugs I should be aware of despite the obvious that the attack could an be dodged?

Major Mending - Obsidian Shield is expensive, how realistic is it to keep Major mending up without insane recovery?

Asylum Resto - I tested this on PTS and it’s hard to tell because I have no addons, but it looks like the cost of cinder storm and obsidian shield aren’t effected by cost reduction from casting blessing of protection.

Sustain - how bad is sustain on the class?

Sorc

Twilight Matriarch got a huge buff. The bonus heal on a crit with a 3 Sec GCD looks... crappy. Is it or am I missing something? No source of minor or major mending, healer’s habit any good?

Edited for ability names.
Edited by Iskiab on September 18, 2019 5:47PM
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  • Iskiab
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    Btw, tested some things on PTS, here are my thoughts for anyone interested without access:

    DK - good toolkit, the issue is sustain. Abilities just cost too much. Tanky BG healers or PvE healing tanks will be happy aside from that

    Sorcs - matriarch is awesome, exactly the opposite of DK. Better burst healer, crazy sustain, I’ve always wanted to play a healer with streak, I might make the switch.

    DKs are better suited to those who like tanky playstyles (of course) and sorc is better for those who like to kite and stay at range. If you don’t like pets I’d go DK or a traditional healing class.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 18, 2019 5:48PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Taleof2Cities
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    You may want to list the gear you’re using (or post a screenshot or Superstar), @Iskiab ... so we have a better context of why sustain is (or is not) an issue.

    Are you only testing DK and Sorc because they are “non-meta” healing classes?
  • Iskiab
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    You may want to list the gear you’re using (or post a screenshot or Superstar), @Iskiab ... so we have a better context of why sustain is (or is not) an issue.

    Are you only testing DK and Sorc because they are “non-meta” healing classes?

    Hum... posting my specs would give away all my leet build SrAtZ. Oh well, why not, I don’t even play these classes yet or know how to play them really so abilities might be messed up. For matriarch I was only interested in the tooltip value.

    DK
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=178641

    Obsidian Shard
    https://imgur.com/wK5JH21

    Sorc
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=179070

    Matriarch Heal
    https://imgur.com/a/zn4UrNP

    I'm testing DK and Sorc because they're the only classes that got seminal healing buffs on PTS, so am comparing them to live builds. Sorcs will supplant NBs as the best burst healers.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 18, 2019 8:14PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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  • es4eva
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    Wait...they just nerfed matriarch...and now a huge buff...? Did I miss something?
  • kringled_1
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    Matriarch had a damage nerf in scalebreaker, and a proposed healing buff on pts.
  • Iskiab
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    es4eva wrote: »
    Wait...they just nerfed matriarch...and now a huge buff...? Did I miss something?

    Yea, sorc healers were hurting imo. It makes sense to improve the healing and that they did, it’s improved a lot. Maybe since they have less healing abilities the intention is to make the ones they have really good, who knows.

    I also realized I never answered the sustain issue question.

    Cinder heal thing costs 4k mag on that build, fragmented shield or whatever it’s called costs 3K I think it was. That’s a little on the high side but might be acceptable so MagDK healers have an Achilles Heel in pvp, but I think the expensive one (cinder storm) is too expensive, maybe drop the cost 1k or so.

    MagDK healers will be tanky in pvp, perhaps too tanky, so a weakness in the spec could be a good thing. The spec might require desert rose and jorv and drop willpower.

    I have a stam DK/Tank so MagDK isn’t my specialty, but they look pretty good to me, their issue will be sustain and output.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 18, 2019 11:20PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
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