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Account-Wide Achievements or Class Change Tokens
January1171
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Please make it possible to either have account-wide achievements or change your class.
With all of these drastic combat changes, it has me questioning whether I want to keep playing my warden.
But all of my achievements since I started playing are on her. I don't want to start the achievement grind again on a new character.
In general, it would make the game much more alt-friendly if account-wide achievements were a thing. That would increase willingness to play different characters.
At the very least, let us change our class. We can respec pretty much everything else, except this.
With all of these drastic combat changes, it has me questioning whether I want to keep playing my warden.
But all of my achievements since I started playing are on her. I don't want to start the achievement grind again on a new character.
In general, it would make the game much more alt-friendly if account-wide achievements were a thing. That would increase willingness to play different characters.
At the very least, let us change our class. We can respec pretty much everything else, except this.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As always when this dead horse rises for another beating...
No, when the achievement is character specific. It makes a difference which character you got Flawless Conqueror on.
Yeah sure, when the achievement is not character specific. It doesnt matter which character you catch fish on - I say as a Master Angler.2 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Unless you're top tier doing organised PvP or endgame PvE speedruns, switching classes based on a couple changes is an unnecessary thing people do.
It results in people seeing an influx of X character, complaining about it, watching it get nerfed then switching to the next character in the firing line.
On topic, I wouldn't mind Account wide achievements but this has been discussed so many times and for some reason, even of those who are against it for themselves (roleplay and completionists etc) the majority don't even like the idea of a toggle for someone else.
I.E. Same discussion was had around skyshards etc - A lot of those types were vehemently against giving them for free on alts as they like to collect them - But then were also unhappy for it to be togglable for those that did want them.
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January1171✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »As always when this dead horse rises for another beating...
No, when the achievement is character specific. It makes a difference which character you got Flawless Conqueror on.
Yeah sure, when the achievement is not character specific. It doesnt matter which character you catch fish on - I say as a Master Angler.
Yeah, but why does it make a difference which character you got Flawless Conqueror on? I know there are groups that require you to link an achievement to run content, but it's not that hard to fake. Link the achievement while on the character with the achievement, and then switch to the character you want to run on. People who are just looking at your @ name and not character name won't know the difference.
And are there any other circumstances where it actually matters to other players what achievements you have?
Because the way I see it achievements are very personal to the player that are just a point of pride, and don't affect the game at all. It's not like you get buffs from achievements.
I would even be fine with just adding a separate tab for your account-wide achievements. They're only unlocked per character, but you can still see what you've completed on your account.
They could also add the character it was completed on in the achievement tool-tip. They already include date completed, I would think it shouldn't be too hard to also add the character it was completed on.0 -
January1171✭✭✭✭✭Unless you're top tier doing organised PvP or endgame PvE speedruns, switching classes based on a couple changes is an unnecessary thing people do.
It results in people seeing an influx of X character, complaining about it, watching it get nerfed then switching to the next character in the firing line.
On topic, I wouldn't mind Account wide achievements but this has been discussed so many times and for some reason, even of those who are against it for themselves (roleplay and completionists etc) the majority don't even like the idea of a toggle for someone else.
I.E. Same discussion was had around skyshards etc - A lot of those types were vehemently against giving them for free on alts as they like to collect them - But then were also unhappy for it to be togglable for those that did want them.
It's been more than a couple of changes though. And this isn't some knee-jerk reaction. I love my warden. It is so much fun to play. But while my dps and sustain is reasonable, it's not sufficient for most vet content, and I was working on improving them to be viable. Now that goal is even further away. I don't want to play a different class, but I am starting to doubt whether I will be able to actually progress past where I am right now if I don't switch to a different class.0 -
Kitty_Quietly✭✭✭Interesting. So what if achievements per zone were made account wide in crown store? Similar to skyshards, you would still have to earn it once.
As for character titles, couldn’t they just be a different color depending on earned or unearned? You could look at the title and still know somebody didn’t earn it with that particular character. Never worried much about titles, but yeah I see where they could be important to distinguish.
Personally, the wayshrines and quest skillpoints would be worth more than titles. Lived without this option this long, so not all that important to me. I could see it’s value though. Turning all the map pieces white instantly, would feel satisfying. Could also get expensive though.
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have been screaming for account wide achieves since launch. Wish it would happen. Or more specifically, I wish they would add an account wide achievements tab to show total progress towards all achievement points on your account, but also leave the character achievement tab exactly how it is. That way, people (like me) that play a lot of alts, can still get a snap shot of their progress, but if you want to keep your characters separate, you can do that too. Nobody would be able to complain.
The only possible issue is titles. The simplest solution IMO would be to remove them from the account wide achievement tab. If you want the title, do all the reqs on a specific character. That said, I could not care less if there were account wide titles. If you can get flawless on any toon, obviously you L2P at some point along the way. Anyone with multiple flawless titles knows that the first one is the hard part, as arena knowledge is most important. After that, it just takes a bit of practice with each new character.
If we had account wide achievements, it would probably be the kick in the pants I need to resub and finish some of the story or hunt down some rare achievement points I never got around too. But as is, I probably wont bother.1 -
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✭✭I have the exact opposite view. If achievements were account-wide, I'd only ever do anything once.1 -
Rukia541✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »As always when this dead horse rises for another beating...
No, when the achievement is character specific. It makes a difference which character you got Flawless Conqueror on.
Yeah sure, when the achievement is not character specific. It doesnt matter which character you catch fish on - I say as a Master Angler.
Not all achievements have to be account wide, or grant a title on a character that it wasn't obtained on. They could also just put "achievement completed by xxx (name) and xxx (class)". I've seen both of these done in WoW.. and achievements not being account wide is just ZoS being way behind on the times honestly.1 -
Nirntrotter✭✭✭✭✭January1171 wrote: »Please make it possible to either have account-wide achievements or change your class.
With all of these drastic combat changes, it has me questioning whether I want to keep playing my warden.
But all of my achievements since I started playing are on her. I don't want to start the achievement grind again on a new character.
In general, it would make the game much more alt-friendly if account-wide achievements were a thing. That would increase willingness to play different characters.
At the very least, let us change our class. We can respec pretty much everything else, except this.
I have the exact same problem, and it's been weighing me down a lot lately. On the one hand, I invested so much into my main and absolutely do not want to give her (and her achievs) up, but at the same time I'm really starting to regret my choice of class. Is it really more significant/difficult to offer this as a service, when things like WW/Vamp already exist?0 -
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✭Why class change tokens??? Lol. Race change, name change, faction change... But class change? Too many issues can arise with class change tokens.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes to SOME achievments. Like quests, colectibles etc.
No to dungeon/trial, pvp achievments and class changing tokens0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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Nah.January1171 wrote: »Please make it possible to either have account-wide achievements...
The -best- you can hope for is a mirroring of (some) achievements from your other character(s) JUST like they did for skyshards and guilds - aka, for a price (in crowns).
And who'd pay that for what is basically just scorekeepings?
Would you?
Really?
Shell out cold hard cash for crowns just to mirror your monster killings you could easily play for, or dungeon runs you can do again with a few good friends, or stuff like that???
Because, just like skyshards or guild progression, that is the best you can ever hope for here.
That idea has more merit, sadly though... the powers that be have decided to give it a hard "NOPE!" so... until and unless they change their minds about it, its useless to even talk about it.January1171 wrote: »At the very least, let us change our class.VaranisArano wrote: »As always when this dead horse rises for another beating...
Yeah, that. (Since noone posted a meme towards that end yet...)
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richo262✭✭✭✭✭
✭Big yes from me.
I'd say the achievements associated with quest completion / sky shard collection probably shouldn't be account wide as they are used to track progress with addons, and the player would actually benefit from knowing what they have not done.
There are a handful of achievements that you can logically say, should not be account wide, but for the bulk of them, yes, they should be.
Quest completion
Shard collection
Titles
Alliance war rank
The above should be separated out of 'achievements' and placed into a new tab called 'Character Feats' or something similar to that.
That way each character has its own progression, but does not have to do all the tedious stuff you have already done in order to get full completion.0 -
Nirntrotter✭✭✭✭✭I would love to have an account-wide achievement system that gives you access to the progress of selected characters simultaneously and pools collected achievs across all characters (with a note who/what class collected what when).0
