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So little weapon damage that stamina pool never drains?
Ardaghion
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Is it possible, maybe on a low level character, to do so little weapon damage that your stamina pool never drains?
Maybe it was some weird bug but yesterday I was playing around with a level 13 Nightblade, one I plan to make a MagBlade in the future. She has all magic based NightBlade skills on her bar but I left her with the two mostly junk daggers so she's dual wielding LA/HA. I tried light and heavy attacking a 3M target dummy and the Precursor in my house and her stamina pool never dropped. I thought it might be a bug so I logged out/in and got the same results. I then left the house and attacked any trash mobs I could find and the same thing happened, I also tried switching to a bow and the stamina pool never dropped. If I used her NB magicka skills the magicka pool would drop.
Now, sprinting would drain her stamina pool, so it's not like the stamina pool or resource bar is stuck. I should also point out that I have CP810 on my main so she has all the CP allocated based mostly on the ESO skill book CP calculator.
I'm at work atm so I can't give specifics but tonight I'll list her current armor, weapons, mundus, attributes, and CP allocations. I'm guessing there's just a combination of factors along with her low level that means she's getting back as much stamina as she's using, not sure that's possible but something is making her light attacks essentially free.
Oh, I'm on Xbox N/A with this character.
Maybe it was some weird bug but yesterday I was playing around with a level 13 Nightblade, one I plan to make a MagBlade in the future. She has all magic based NightBlade skills on her bar but I left her with the two mostly junk daggers so she's dual wielding LA/HA. I tried light and heavy attacking a 3M target dummy and the Precursor in my house and her stamina pool never dropped. I thought it might be a bug so I logged out/in and got the same results. I then left the house and attacked any trash mobs I could find and the same thing happened, I also tried switching to a bow and the stamina pool never dropped. If I used her NB magicka skills the magicka pool would drop.
Now, sprinting would drain her stamina pool, so it's not like the stamina pool or resource bar is stuck. I should also point out that I have CP810 on my main so she has all the CP allocated based mostly on the ESO skill book CP calculator.
I'm at work atm so I can't give specifics but tonight I'll list her current armor, weapons, mundus, attributes, and CP allocations. I'm guessing there's just a combination of factors along with her low level that means she's getting back as much stamina as she's using, not sure that's possible but something is making her light attacks essentially free.
Oh, I'm on Xbox N/A with this character.
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Ardaghion✭✭✭✭
Yeah, I was pretty much just doing LA but occasionally trying HA to see if it made any difference. Since the stamina pool never dropped the HA didn't do anything. I added Flurry to the skill bar and that drained the pool and the dual wield HA did restore the stamina.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭I'm not trying to be mean, but this is the problem with the game. your max CP and didn't know one of, if not the, most basic features of the game. There should be some in-game reading material / guides beside the 30 second tutorial that no one pays attention to.
Else were going to continue to have people like this in vet dungeons/trails with people getting upset with them.2 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean, but this is the problem with the game. your max CP and didn't know one of, if not the, most basic features of the game. There should be some in-game reading material / guides beside the 30 second tutorial that no one pays attention to.
Else were going to continue to have people like this in vet dungeons/trails with people getting upset with them.
^mh just run trials/ vet dugoens wit hfriends not with randoms - should fix this problem1 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭never got changed so u may be used skills on the stam dk wich srain stamina xd
You are probably correct, I'll try using only LA with my StamDK and see what happens. She's not dual wield now, I switched her to S&B with bow for solo content, and may even try learning to tank with a few build changes.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean, but this is the problem with the game. your max CP and didn't know one of, if not the, most basic features of the game. There should be some in-game reading material / guides beside the 30 second tutorial that no one pays attention to.
Else were going to continue to have people like this in vet dungeons/trails with people getting upset with them.
^mh just run trials/ vet dugoens wit hfriends not with randoms - should fix this problem
I do, Im talking about player base health here. When someone goes through months if not over a year without knowing basic things about then game and then going into hard content after face-rolling everything else in game they have a bad time and quit. not to mention all the complaints in forums and in game.1 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean, but this is the problem with the game. your max CP and didn't know one of, if not the, most basic features of the game. There should be some in-game reading material / guides beside the 30 second tutorial that no one pays attention to.
Else were going to continue to have people like this in vet dungeons/trails with people getting upset with them.
Well, you aren't being mean to me. I guess I just never noticed that a LA didn't drain the associated resource pool. My main is a MagSorc and the other fully leveled is a StamDK, I've never been one to just LA all day, if I did I might have remembered seeing that aspect. Plus, I'm old and my memory isn't what it used to be.
I don't and might never do vet trials or dungeons. I've duo'd a number of base game dungeons with a partner but she has a bad habit of only HA all the time, although she will occasionally use some abilities she doesn't really try to use a rotation of any kind.0 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »I'm not trying to be mean, but this is the problem with the game. your max CP and didn't know one of, if not the, most basic features of the game. There should be some in-game reading material / guides beside the 30 second tutorial that no one pays attention to.
Else were going to continue to have people like this in vet dungeons/trails with people getting upset with them.
^mh just run trials/ vet dugoens wit hfriends not with randoms - should fix this problem
I do, Im talking about player base health here. When someone goes through months if not over a year without knowing basic things about then game and then going into hard content after face-rolling everything else in game they have a bad time and quit. not to mention all the complaints in forums and in game.
I should point out that I'm not a complete idiot, I do know quite a few things about combat in the game. I've read about plenty of combat aspects like staying out of the red, interrupting when I see red lines, blocking when I see yellow lines, using synergy when available, roll dodge, break free, etc. I'm still pushing my gaming partner to notice these aspects of the game and responding appropriately at the right time. I guess I just never noticed that LAs don't use resources.
If I ever go into hard content it will be with a guild group that can help train me to better understand the roles and mechanics. I did that in Destiny raids with a dedicated group. I once got asked to a Destiny raid with a PUG, it was extremely frustrating and we ended quitting, with the friend that asked me to join apologizing to me. I don't think I'll PUG in ESO based on that experience.0 -
Gundug✭✭✭✭✭If you are looking to challenge harder content, I would recommend finding a friendly, helpful guild that does trials and dungeons regularly. With the right people, you can not just clear the content, but get help directly in improving your gameplay and setup. And hanging with friendly people can make the whole experience more enjoyable.0
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✭✭How the hell have you got to cp810 and not know what light and heavy attacks do???PC EU1 -
CynicK✭✭✭Is what i thought, cp 810 and does not know light and heavy attacks do not drain stamina.
lol "not sure that's possible but something is making her light attacks essentially free"1 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭If you are looking to challenge harder content, I would recommend finding a friendly, helpful guild that does trials and dungeons regularly. With the right people, you can not just clear the content, but get help directly in improving your gameplay and setup. And hanging with friendly people can make the whole experience more enjoyable.
See my post #12 above, that's exactly what I would plan to do.0 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »How the hell have you got to cp810 and not know what light and heavy attacks do???
I know what light and heavy attacks do, I know that heavy attacks restore stamina or magicka based on weapon type. I didn't know that light attacks didn't use stamina or magicka based on weapon type. There's a lot to know in this game and it is one thing I just didn't notice, not that surprising. Although if I were the type of player that only did light attacks all day and never used any class abilities I might have noticed.
As @magictucktuck mentioned the game isn't that good at teaching all the details of combat. When I started I saw red under my feet when being attacked by some enemies, I took damage, I wondered why that was, I researched it. When I saw red lines coming from an enemy, I researched that. The difference is that there's nothing to see with regards to LA, if I didn't notice until now that a LA didn't use resources, it's because there's nothing to see, and when I use a skill, it does use resources, that's noticeable.0 -
Ardaghion✭✭✭✭Is what i thought, cp 810 and does not know light and heavy attacks do not drain stamina.
lol "not sure that's possible but something is making her light attacks essentially free"
I now know that light weapon attacks do not drain stamina, I've been aware for a long time that heavy weapon attacks restore stamina and don't drain stamina.
I guess you don't believe in the adage that "there's no such thing as a stupid question". If you wonder why some players don't know everything there is to know about the game, it's probably due to seeing the responses some people give to questions they have.
I googled this question before starting the thread but didn't find anything useful due to the wording of my query. After @magictucktuck mentioned combat, I googled ESO combat and found the UESP page on combat, it does mention that light and heavy attacks don't use stamina/magicka. Outside of that one aspect of LA, there's nothing on that page I wasn't aware of already.0