So I tried PvP for the first time...

NordJitsu · April 2014

Being on TeamSpeak with an organized group definitely makes it better.

I'd also reccomend ignoring the keeps for a while. Go camp a way gate. Ambush small groups. Sit at quest hubs and kill people in 1v1s.

I want an Arena as well, but there is already smaller scale PvP in this game. You just have to know how to find it.

ben61704 · April 2014

Personally I wouldn't mind BGs added. Or another, SMALLER, pvp zone. It can be really hard to find ppl to fight if there are no sieges happening. The zone is huge and glorious, but i need a way to know where to go for some action.

Drachenfier · April 2014

It's kinda boring...its Realm Vs Door 50% of the time,the other 50% is spent traveling back to the battle after you died from some random AoE.

There's ranks, but no gear from what I can see, there's no incentive to do anything really. Played it for a couple nights and got bored, haven't been back since.

The_Death_Princess · April 2014

Magischzwei wrote: »

Cryodil is not and will never be anything innovative. As it is, its a larger, more cluttered ripoff of thousand winter from wow. And that BG was hated by its community since its inception. If they go on to copy from other MMOs (which they do alot, and there is nothing wrong with that), they should have taken the better parts of PvP and not the trashcan that everyone hated.

Siege combat and npc focused *** is no pvp, and it doesn't belong in an MMO, period.

What a wonderful and amazing comment that shows people have no clue about what they post and should do research in history before posting.

In NWO I moderated nearly daily the WoW was the first MMO statement from youngsters. To say this is a copy of WoW shows your ineptness in understanding the history of games. In fact, that was WoW's attempt to copy DAOC.

It is true that these games worry about this game or that game and what it does. WoW fear is one reason why DAOC started down the path of demise. Before the 'Gear Mentality' it was a great game, after busted.

Now for the OP:

If you don't get these points I make now, please move on to another game

Elder Scrolls Online RvR has (as we did in DAOC):

- Traditional 1v1
- Traditional Arena
- Mid scale 20-50ish (depends on game you know)
- Siege warfare (few games have this)
- Freedom of choice at leisure between PvE life and PvP (with no deterrent if you don't PvP - most games force PvP for best of game)

Truly if you don't think all those exist now, then step back and think how. I did it for years in DAOC, and had a blast. This game is far better taking out a lot of the issues that existed with the old game engine, and I know that Cyrodil isn't totally fleshed out yet.

Teiji · April 2014

Hello community,

I'd like to make those that are not currently aware of something with this post:

Through-out my time in Cyrodiil, I have realised I enjoy acquiring prey. In order to increase the amount of prey I can acquire, I came to the conclusion that I require others to acquire prey with.

Enlightenment

I realised, that through embracing Sithis and other members of my species. I could solve the problem of the need for more prey!

So, I did something extremely bizzare, weird and different!

What I did

I used the in-game communication functions in order to find other like-minded individuals, that enjoyed acquiring prey, wanted to work together and achieve progress, but most importantly. People that wanted to be a group in functionality and name.

Crazy right? A group that is more than a group just in-name.

So, if you want change, you have to make an effort to lead by example and enforce change.

Find others out there that lack the confidence to direct their peers and simply communicate with one another! Be the change! Help create heroic-emergent gameplay that we can all enjoy!

Summary

If you genuinely believe you lack the ability, confidence, or whatever it may be in order to organise groups by yourself and make an effort to communicate with each other. You need to make an effort to actually respect yourself, be a credit to your species and realise that if you want to complain really well, you should at least make an effort to attain complaints where you can add depth that will actually be acknowledged and respected.

Suggestions for improving confidence so you can be a community hero and create heroic-emergent gameplay for all!

Drink Coffee
Download a confidence audio-book
Drink Alcohol
Don't drink Alcohol
Eat well (decently is acceptable, just eat. We don't want you starving!)
Respect yourself and others
Acknowledge that some people will genuinely appreciate help through information and may be complete first-timers to this game and, incidentally, be really, really, really bad.
Know that the struggle is real
Embrace Sithis

Final words

So! My fellow beloved Tamrielians, we all have the power to create heroic and emergent gameplay as well as content. We just have to accept the responsibility that it will not do it self and of course, realise that we are in complete control of our gameplay experience. We have the choice to react however we do! Yes, we can choose to be happy or unhappy! Glorious brain-honey-inducing-butterflies of Sheogorath I know, It's so bizarre yet true!

Source -
I'm a Dinosaur that actively engages with our community through forming groups obsessed with positivity, ganking and camping prey.

neocomab16_ESO · April 2014

Look. People who ask for arena like 2v2, 3v3 or even 1v1 just want to compare their skill to another. There's mostly nothing involved such as comparing e-peen (mostly, some still need it tho). It is simply a way to see how I do against equally matched people. Cyrodiil is huge and such opportunities are quite rare. Plus some just dont enjoy being a number. I too find it odd but on the other hand I dont have a guild that knows what to do in Cyodiil so there is little to no communication and organizing when I join a random pug raid. People dont listen, people dont think ...it is like bashing alliance players in warsong - boring.

If I had a guild that has:
a) enough players to play a significant role and have impact
b) is eager to play with tactics such as backstabbing while flanking and whatnot
c) communicating such tactics

I'd be awesome. I'd have a blast. Only thing I then need is proper reward. I dont really care (I guess) for emperor stuff unless I would be it but that wont happen ever. I dont care for rankings, too. It is just a number that shows how many time you spend in Cyrodiil or you simply exploit it in a way.

So yeah, I kind of miss the more personal reward. I feel that is lacking.

Plus, I see a problem with representing the guild n all because we can join 5 guilds and most of us have 1 serious guild and the rest is for trading only. Maybe to pledge to one guild but that woulld only work in pvp I guess. Ah well ...love 5 guild system but it kills dedication and community in some way.

Rickey · April 2014

mips_winnt wrote: »

Rickey wrote: »

A similar topic was posted by someone on the forums. Im aware.

So yeah, I went into Cyrodil today, had fun for about an hour or so and then sat back and realized exactly what I was doing. Maybe you have to be on audio with a group of people to really enjoy it? Idk. I felt like just another number, I was reading the chat, joining groups that were attacking keeps and what-not, arriving to the battle, casting a spell or hitting someone with my axe and watching them drop in less than a second. It was fun, cool, and exciting, for about an hour...

You make some good points and I get where you're coming from, however I would suggest you give ZOS a little bit of time on this front, you said you played WoW for PvP and if you recall back in vanilla the most popular BG for level capped players was Alterac Valley, which was basically a big "zerg fest" similar to what ESO is offering now, personally I had a blast with that type of PvP but Blizzard went on to further develop options for players like yourself that enjoy the smaller scale tactical PvP scenarios (smaller BG's, Arenas, etc..,) which was great.

I'd suggest just giving ZOS a chance and see where they take this since I'm sure they're aware that there are MANY PvP'ers like yourself that prefer a more "up close and personal" approach to PvP rather than large scale strategic scenarios.

Happy Hunting!

Yeah I know I need to give them time, but unfortunately they've said they have no intentions in adding any other content like that. Im guessing they want Cyrodil AvAvA to be there main selling point for PvP, and that's going to be tough, imo.