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Kiting Tips

winged_tortoise
The other day while farming 7th Legion weapons from world bosses I noticed two things:

1. The other players in my pug were constantly moving around. In a sense they were kiting the boss.

2. They were also dying a lot less than I was.

I tried doing the same thing but found it awkward to press the ‘w’, ‘a’, and ‘s’ keys while keeping up my spell rotation and am wondering if there’s a trick, like mapping the movement keys to a mouse button or if it just required lots of practice always moving from # keys for skills to “asw” keys for movement?

I’m preparing to do Mealstrom Arena and am starting to PvP a bit. I can see where coordinated moving coupled with good dps could be quite useful for both.

Any tips?
  • redspecter23
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    Never kite unless you have to. Ideally there will be a tank to hold the boss in place and make the fight infinitely easier. If you have to kite, make sure you have enough distance between you and the mob. Their melee attacks have surprisingly long range and if you're kiting and still getting hit with melee, you're accomplishing nothing at all. Might as well be standing still. The same applies if the boss is hitting you with range.

    As far as PvP is concerned, mobility is an entirely different situation. Players that make good use of terrain and understand opponent's blind spots will have a great innate defense built in when each attack from an opponent has a great chance to miss.
  • Xvorg
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    The other day while farming 7th Legion weapons from world bosses I noticed two things:

    1. The other players in my pug were constantly moving around. In a sense they were kiting the boss.

    2. They were also dying a lot less than I was.

    I tried doing the same thing but found it awkward to press the ‘w’, ‘a’, and ‘s’ keys while keeping up my spell rotation and am wondering if there’s a trick, like mapping the movement keys to a mouse button or if it just required lots of practice always moving from # keys for skills to “asw” keys for movement?

    I’m preparing to do Mealstrom Arena and am starting to PvP a bit. I can see where coordinated moving coupled with good dps could be quite useful for both.

    Any tips?

    As long as you keep on playing, you will leran most of the tricks yourself, such as when to dodge roll, when is Block necessary, whsn you have to move forward or backward, etc.
    Each one has its own pace, you just have to leran yours. MA and VMA are good places to learn too.

    By the way, get a mouse with at least 5 buttons and map your 5 most important skills to them (2 side buttons + central + rool up + roll down) If you can get a mouse with more buttons, the better.
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  • winged_tortoise
    Thanks, guys!

    Xvorg, I do have a 5 button mouse. At the moment I have dodge roll mapped to roll down, dual wield bar to <side 1> and bow bar to <side 2>. I use them constantly. I’m curious. What do you have mapped to your mouse? Is it your ‘1’-‘5’ keys or something else?
    Edited by winged_tortoise on September 13, 2019 12:15AM
  • VaranisArano
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    I'm on PC with keyboard and I "kite" by circling clockwise around the enemy. If I'm soloing something, I typically hold A or W+A while using my mouse to stay pointed at the enemy.

    It works well for soloing because many enemies will turn in place and briefly pause in order to unleash big attacks, so constantly circling can carry me out of the danger zone.

    It doesn't work well with group content like dungeons. As a tank, I want to keep the boss facing away from the group most of the time so that heavy attacks are directed at me. As a healer or DD, I want to be out of the way of those heavy attacks.

    It also doesnt work with certain bosses. My instinct to circle gets me killed a lot on the Summerset world or geyser bosses who has a lot of rapid, small ground based AOEs like the Viper WB. :)
  • zyk
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    At most, you're only ever going to need to press two of wsad at one time and possibly only one when you're also casting abilities. It's possible to develop muscle memory that allows one to also tap keys ~ through 5 with different fingers while doing so.
  • kojou
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    There are mice with more than 5 buttons. My first ESO mouse had 6 buttons on the side that I mapped to 1-6 (I set my ultimate to 6) and that let me do movement with my left and skills with my right hand.
    Playing since beta...
  • MrBrownstone
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    I'm suffering from the exact opposite problem. I got so used to be on the move at all times because of vMA and PvP, I can't stand still in trials when the group is supposed to stack and my group complains :D
  • AcadianPaladin
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    Kiting a boss used to be a real no no since so many dds relied heavily on ground AoE 'killing zones' which meant needing someone to keep the boss in place (a tank or tanky dd). Nowadays though who cares with the birth of the super DoT ranged meta. Players and boss can all run around like headless chickens as long as the dds keep firing those ranged DoTs. :(
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • EmEm_Oh
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    I'm suffering from the exact opposite problem. I got so used to be on the move at all times because of vMA and PvP, I can't stand still in trials when the group is supposed to stack and my group complains :D

    Yeah, vMA players are distinguishable in PvP. :)
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