Is this real? An entire zone, just for questing?

iamkeebler · September 2019

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

Also, Dungeons are not by any means considered endgame or “hard” content, they are tailored towards the casual group PvEer. Group arenas like vBRP are tailored towards endgame group.

You’re missing the point that everyone is pointing out though which is that this game is enhanced by the lore and story. ESO is just another piece of the ongoing story that many of us players have been experiencing for years, some players as far back as the first elderscrolls game. I’d rather the game creators create meaningful content than just another piece of content designed for leaderboard placements. ESO is more than just an average mmo and the content they put out reflects that. It’s the story, the lore that enhances the gameplay. So chill out, be patient, and enjoy the story until your “endgame needs” are fulfilled. Most of the community is thrilled about the ending to this latest piece of the story.

Cillion3117 · September 2019

There's new quest to do?!?!? Freaking awesome!!!!

Sylosi · September 2019

You know you don't have to do quests alone...

Then beyond that let's address the hypocrisy of those (of most) who complain about this sort of thing and want stuff like dungeons because it is an MMORPG.

Guess what, 4 man dungeons aren't 'massively multiplayer' either, you can get that playing any one of a zillion co-op / normal mulitplayer games. Then to add to that they are instanced outside of the persistent world, so basically fail the two most fundamental aspects of an MMORPG.

But they are in most MMORPGs for exactly the same reason various "solo" stuff is, because that is what is demanded, but that does not excuse the laughable level of hypocrisy.

SenpaiNFT · September 2019

Sylvermynx wrote: »

@SenpaiNFT - it's a public forum. Everyone gets to reply to anything they like, as long as they're more or less polite. No one gets to claim her thread is a sacrosanct one, where posting:

@ZOS_JesC I would ask that you stop those who would post objective misinformation multiple times in the same post from derailing it further.

will get you a private soapbox for your personal rants.

Everyone's free to post what they like as long as it doesn't break the forum rules.

Another case of someone posting when they have no evidence to back up their claims. I will yet again use factual evidence to disprove above person’s baseless claim.

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As previously stated, this is said persons third offense posting misinformation. It is clear at this point it is deliberate to derail the post. I ask that action be taken so we can get back to discussing the topic with actual evidence and backed claims.

ArchMikem · September 2019

SenpaiNFT wrote: »

Seriously? Is ZOS really wasting an entire DLC on one huge zone just for quests? Something that can literally be released for a single-player game, you’re calling a DLC for an MMO?

Legit, not a single bone for PvE or PvP? I think you guys have done an amazing job at making it abundantly clear who you cater to @ZOS_GinaBruno. Enjoy losing the last of the Endgame community with no new content for another 6 months.

Last time I checked, Questing fell into the PvE Camp.

Are you complaining about Dragonhold? Why even? Why now? Was there new information I missed where the content isn't gonna give you a new arena or something? Endgame just got two new Dungeons, and before that a new Trial.

Loralai_907 · September 2019

Have you seriously not figured out by now that the masses aren't on the same page as you? You are just coming across as super rude, which isn't earning you any points. You can make your point without being a giant jerk.

We aren't always going to agree, people are going to have differing opinions. The difference is people are typically going to at least be willing to have a conversation about whatever it is person A feels strongly about if that person isn't running around attacking everyone like a rabid dog. So either calm down, or sit down.

ZonasArch · September 2019

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Watchdog wrote: »

the true ESO endgame - housing and fashion.

inventory management.

Fixed it for ya.

Oh... Forgot that one. That would be me, with 13 toons, and no ESO plus... Haha

doomette · September 2019

Cirantille wrote: »

doomette wrote: »

How does “go play Skyrim” even make sense as a retort against those of us who are happy with the new questing zone? Why leave the game when we’re excited about what’s coming up?

And I won’t even turn it around and say those who don’t want a new questing zone should go play blahblahblah because I’m not a jerk like that. I want there to be something for casual questers, PVPers, kick-in-teeth-hard trials/dungeon runners, fashionistas, interior decorators, and people who host guar parades.

Throwing a tantrum and attacking players because they aren’t ultra-mega-leet like you is a pathetic response to ESO not releasing the content you want.

I would be interested in the guar parade
Do let me know

I saw a hopping guar parade in Cyro once and it was glorious.

D0PAMINE · September 2019

Jeremy wrote: »

iamkeebler wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

This is why we need Veteran Zones for high level players to quest in. New scenery, stories, and NPCs are nice and all. But a bit more challenge to make the content more interesting to explore would be welcomed. At least by me.

We just got a trial and 2 new dungeons in the last DLC for us “endgamers”. There are a ton of players though who play this game for the story and the lore. Not thrilled about this DLC? Don’t buy it. You know there will be more end game content coming soon enough.

kathandira wrote: »

If you were looking for a game completely focused on Dungeons, Raiding, and PvP.. World of Warcraft is ---->

100% agree with this statement. ESO is great because of the variety in content that is offered and the variety in DLCs and what they bring to the various gameplay areas. Perhaps folks need to explore other aspects of the game for a bit and learn there is more to this game than just PvP or just endgame.

Questing and exploring is one my my favorite things to do on ESO. I'm not an "endgamer". But the combat has become too easy - even for casual players like me. When you can just "face roll" yourself through all the mobs (which is what the poster I responded to said - and he/she is absolutely correct about that) it actually cheapens the content and makes it less enjoyable.

Questing and exploring is a lot more fun when the landscape poses enough challenge to where it's at least interesting to fight in. So by allowing for veteran zones it would only make this kind of content more popular (not less) and appeal to more high level players like myself. Because a lot of casual players like a bit of challenge too. It's always been a false talking point that only "endgamers" running dungeons and trials like challenge and everyone else just wants everything brain dead easy and are content to read stories and look at scenery. That's not the case. There are a lot of players in that middle ground trust me.

Agreed. Actually needing to use skills for quests would make it a lot more enjoyable, at least for me. I vet toggle would be fair I think. Feasable, im not sure.

ZonasArch · September 2019

Bekkael wrote: »

I suppose there's a fundamental difference in definition. To me, when I have completed all the quests in all the zones, and my character literally has nothing left to do but dailies and repeatables, I consider myself to be an endgamer, as I have actually reached the end of the game.

I refuse to call myself a filthy casual, as I am neither filthy, nor am I casual. I know people use that term in jest, but I consider it derogatory since it was formerly used to insult people that played on one gaming platform as opposed to another, along with the word "peasant". I log in and play this game every single day and have invested more time in ESO than any other game I have ever played. I wear ESO t-shirts! That's far from casual IMO, but whatever. Some labels are silly.

C'mon... Let's join the filthy casual team! They are the ones that know how to have fun! Hehe

Chicharron · September 2019

lordrichter wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

iamkeebler wrote: »

The “endgame” crowd has gotten PLENTY of content this year. ESO is more than an mmo (hence my earlier comment about it being an mmoRPG). And as others have pointed out, ZOS has used this formula for releasing content time and time again. Your end game only dlc will likely be next. Until then, perhaps dive in and enjoy the storyline for a bit instead.

It's not like if they added an arena the quest content would go away.A different team works on that anyway.

My figuring is that Finn's dungeon team is working on 2020 DLC, which is probably going to be 4 Dungeons and a Trial.

Dickety-Dickety DLC

AVaelham · September 2019

Great!
Finally a Quests DLC. We had enough of the Season of the Dragon story-line locked behind Dungeon DLCs. I hope the dungeon DLCs next year will be stand-alone. I am here for the story and exploring new parts of Tamriel, first and foremost.

zyk · September 2019

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Agreed. Actually needing to use skills for quests would make it a lot more enjoyable, at least for me. I vet toggle would be fair I think. Feasable, im not sure.

I bought this game mainly for TES quests. I hoped that it would turn out to be a good MMO, but if not the quests I played during the open beta were enough to justify buying it.

Of course, that game I played during the open beta, while not hard, actually had some difficult encounters such as an infamous Harvester that I think might have been nerfed before launch.

But the point is, I used to enjoy overland questing in ESO. Completing silver and gold with the original VR difficulty was especially enjoyable. I haven't for a long time. I forced myself through Morrowind quests, but by CWC, I couldn't do it anymore. The tedium had become painful for me.

In Summerset, I only quested as much as necessary for the Psijic line. I've only been to Murkmire a couple of times. By Elseyr, I was 100% done with ESO PVP. By then, even trading had been ruined for me by Crown gift RMT.

I don't consider overland PVE to be a game anymore. I believe I could easily win fights using only my tongue to play, though I have not tried. At least Skyrim had difficulty settings.

The thing is that overland ESO was never very difficult. It just required that players learn the rules. Apparently, that's asking too much now.

Juhasow · September 2019

Sylosi wrote: »

You know you don't have to do quests alone...

Then beyond that let's address the hypocrisy of those (of most) who complain about this sort of thing and want stuff like dungeons because it is an MMORPG.

Guess what, 4 man dungeons aren't 'massively multiplayer' either, you can get that playing any one of a zillion co-op / normal mulitplayer games. Then to add to that they are instanced outside of the persistent world, so basically fail the two most fundamental aspects of an MMORPG.

But they are in most MMORPGs for exactly the same reason various "solo" stuff is, because that is what is demanded, but that does not excuse the laughable level of hypocrisy.

Actually certain quests especially main stories are solo quests so You have to do them alone.

You're extremly twisting the meaning of what massively multiplayer stands for. Word massively usually stands for capability of server to hold massive amounts of players at once. 4 man content is totally a part of a MMO since massive amount of people logged in can create 4 man groups with each other and complete the content that game have to offer. Group sizes dont have to be massive for the game to have status of an MMO.

ZOS_GregoryV · September 2019

Greetings all,

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