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PVP -> penetration or spell power?

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teladoy
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I like battlegrounds and I'm not sure what is the most recomendable, if penetration or spell power? What can you tell me guys?
  • Diarf
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    NoCP or CP?
    Which class?
  • teladoy
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    Battleground are no CP. Class would be any Magicka DD class.
  • Bashev
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    I find penetration really good. That is why I stick with light armor and dont go heavy.
    Because I can!
  • Heimpai
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    Full penetration (jk) probably just light armor passives if that’s not working then you could go with the lover mundus or penetration trait on weapon..or spinners
  • dtsharples
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    There will be a penetration cap I presume, after which it will become pointless to go further.
    I'm sorry I don't know what that cap is off the top of my head, but you could definitely work it out - and then just don't go over that number.

  • Diarf
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    Title is pvp and you write about only "like" bg :p
    There is no smth for ANY mag class. One is better with pene, second with sd, third when stack max mag. You know that in noCP there is no one-build meta right?
  • Iskiab
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    Penetration for magicka. Spell power/weapon power is only better for people who use 5 medium or lots of weapon damage buffs.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 7, 2019 11:33AM
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  • SpiderCultist
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    Diarf wrote: »
    Title is pvp and you write about only "like" bg :p
    There is no smth for ANY mag class. One is better with pene, second with sd, third when stack max mag. You know that in noCP there is no one-build meta right?

    I also like pene, mine overall
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  • teladoy
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Penetration for magicka. Spell power/weapon power is only better for people who use 5 medium or lots of weapon damage buffs.

    Penetration is better for people that uses 5 light armor parts while Spell/weapon power is better for those that uses 5 mediums. That's what you mean?
  • Iskiab
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Penetration for magicka. Spell power/weapon power is only better for people who use 5 medium or lots of weapon damage buffs.

    Penetration is better for people that uses 5 light armor parts while Spell/weapon power is better for those that uses 5 mediums. That's what you mean?

    Yea basicly. Penetration is better for damage but doesn’t help healing in any way. If you use enough weapon power buffs like 5 medium or lots of weapon power buffs (fighter’s guild abilities) then weapon power can be better than pen.

    Magicka don’t have spell power buffs like stam do from skill lines or medium armour so pen’s always better.

    When I say buffs, I mean additional weapon/spell power modifiers besides the generic minor and major buffs.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 7, 2019 12:57PM
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  • JAwtunes
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    Don't over penetrate or you will just come out the other side.
  • teladoy
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    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Don't over penetrate or you will just come out the other side.

    What's the average resistances in battlegrounds? 17k?
  • Iskiab
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    teladoy wrote: »
    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Don't over penetrate or you will just come out the other side.

    What's the average resistances in battlegrounds? 17k?

    Depends on the player. Starter BGs it can be as low as 10k, the higher the MMR the higher the resistances up to 30k.
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  • teladoy
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    teladoy wrote: »
    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Don't over penetrate or you will just come out the other side.

    What's the average resistances in battlegrounds? 17k?

    Depends on the player. Starter BGs it can be as low as 10k, the higher the MMR the higher the resistances up to 30k.

    30k is possible but no someone with a pure DD build...
  • Iskiab
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    teladoy wrote: »
    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Don't over penetrate or you will just come out the other side.

    What's the average resistances in battlegrounds? 17k?

    Depends on the player. Starter BGs it can be as low as 10k, the higher the MMR the higher the resistances up to 30k.

    30k is possible but no someone with a pure DD build...

    That’s not true because of bloodspawn. I’m at 26k with procs in 5 light.

    There’s also no such thing as a DD in pvp really, everyone’s part tank, healer and DPS if they’re successful.
    Edited by Iskiab on September 7, 2019 6:05PM
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  • JumpmanLane
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    People are tanky AF nowadays. You don’t want to build for spell damage OR penetration. You want to build for spell damage AND penetration.

    Or REALLY, rather, damage and penetration, whether you’re getting the damage from building for max mag, high spell damage or a combination of both.

    Be mindful though, that the cap is 33k resistances and at that they are only mitigating 50% of your damage. Your pen is subtracted from their mitigation and then things like blocking, SnB passives, wings, minor protection etc are all multiplicative so no one is going to block over 100% of your damage. It’ll always be some number under 100%. (Though some can get into the 90%). SO, add some pen, fool!
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