Thank you for your input. ZoS will take it into consideration.

Jesus. It never fails.

PvPers cry and moan about getting their "own event", because they want to be special, then when they get it they cry and moan about lonq queues and/or population induced lag.

I really do wonder about some of you.

Hmm i think a lot of the lag is on the players side, I never seem to have issues in the mass population areas >.> then again I don't play on a toaster.

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Jesus. It never fails.

PvPers cry and moan about getting their "own event", because they want to be special, then when they get it they cry and moan about lonq queues and/or population induced lag.

I really do wonder about some of you.

Wow, it's almost like they're individuals with their own wants and opinions, and not some big generalized group defined exclusively by unfair stereotypes and run like a hive mind

I wonder what that's like.

I dunno, maybe we'll see when folk stop being sheep.

We'll have a rerun of this next PvP event, and the one after that, and the one after that. I daresay the one after that as well. Just like this one is a rerun of what has come before. I already have more AP/TV than I can spend, and really don't need ridiculous queues to join a campaign and/or any more zerg lag.

PvP is stuffed, performance wise, so anyone calling more more "events" for PvP is off their heads.

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

Hmm i think a lot of the lag is on the players side, I never seem to have issues in the mass population areas >.> then again I don't play on a toaster.

You don't play on a toaster? You're right, something that can achieve what you claim probably is better described as a nuclear power plant

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Jesus. It never fails.

PvPers cry and moan about getting their "own event", because they want to be special, then when they get it they cry and moan about lonq queues and/or population induced lag.

I really do wonder about some of you.

Wow, it's almost like they're individuals with their own wants and opinions, and not some big generalized group defined exclusively by unfair stereotypes and run like a hive mind

I wonder what that's like.

I dunno, maybe we'll see when folk stop being sheep.

We'll have a rerun of this next PvP event, and the one after that, and the one after that. I daresay the one after that as well. Just like this one is a rerun of what has come before. I already have more AP/TV than I can spend, and really don't need ridiculous queues to join a campaign and/or any more zerg lag.

PvP is stuffed, performance wise, so anyone calling more more "events" for PvP is off their heads.

Maybe you should lead with calling out people who're calling for more events, rather than lumping everybody PVPer together and destroying your own argument in the process then.

Why would I talk about something random and, at best, tangentially related to the OP?

Stop being all huffy about it. Events are bad, and PvP events are the worst. The point of difference is that when PvP events are cancelled, a whole mess of people start crying like it's a personal insult.

Kel wrote: »

I think Alcast said it best when talking about the upcoming performance updates.
This isn't going to be some end all/be all fix. At best, you'll see an improvement of 5, maybe 10 frames.
https://youtu.be/PJ3FG4FhEqQ

While the update is much needed, I think people are putting a little too much hope in it.
Seems to me the first run consoles (meaning not the PS4 pro, for example, but the normal version) will see the biggest performance boosts. For everyone else, I'm sure it'll still help...a little.

no its not going to fix anything until they address the cause of the issue. Pick a zone, any zone, and put a *** ton of players in it. Its going to lag. Cyrodil with a 50 que and a ton of people is going to lag every time, especially when all those people are fighting and especially, especially, when they are balled up in a small area fighting something like 80v80..

This fix will hopefully fix things slightly but i hold out no hope ill be able to pvp in the 30 day campaign again. Its unplayable and tonight IC isnt that far off. Thankfully its only the districts that these maniacs are in. Ill never understand how people can have fun in groups of that size. You cant even see what you're doing lmao.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

eso_lags wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Jesus. It never fails.

PvPers cry and moan about getting their "own event", because they want to be special, then when they get it they cry and moan about lonq queues and/or population induced lag.

I really do wonder about some of you.

Wow thats crazy, its a rare occasion that I meet someone who can't read but can type.. It does happen though, oddly enough its usually on the forums. Well anyway ill help you out a bit.

I mean Im happy to have a pvp event but since I have to deal with this laggy mess, and have had to for years, im still going to voice my sheer disgust with the whole thing.

I'm legitimately confused as to what you think you've gained with PvP events though? OK, IC revives life into a dead zone temporarily, but the cyro events? You've got an event that's nominally for PvPers, where you gain even more extraneous and largely useless AP, and gain extra lag and increased queue times. It's not really a gift, is it? And now IC is a laggy mess like cyrodiil, but hey, at least it's an "event", right? Yay!

Do people really want an "event" that gives nothing but aggravation and decreased performance/play time?

because we literally get *** on every single day and every single update by zos. Must be nice to get new content every update. Must be nice to have regular events. Must be nice to have that content function for the most part. Not cyrodil. Not even *** close. Of course we want events.

And its useless huh? If you're going to call AP and tel var useless then you could call anything useless and then whats the point of even playing. Because pvp players like to pvp.

And Ic isnt a dead zone. Its actually the last place we can pvp without this awful lag, at least on xbox. And its always been fun in the past but zos has let the already *** performance get to an abysmal level that leaves the game damn near unplayable.

And with this update they've made things so much worse. With combat and performance together.

eso_lags wrote: »

because we literally get *** on every single day and every single update by zos. Must be nice to get new content every update. Must be nice to have regular events. Must be nice to have that content function for the most part. Not cyrodil. Not even *** close. Of course we want events.

Well, if you like it just because you *nominally* get something, good for you. It's an empty gesture (and introduces new problems, as you've found out), but okay....

And you GOT new PvP content. It's called Imperial City, and 11.5 mths of the year it's dead, and even when it isn't, when Zos try to encourage new people to play it, you have idiots sitting outside the spawn points ganking people coming OUT of the base. Like they are in RD on XNA now. 3 reds, not a one lower than a 1 star, sitting there dark and ganking away. Doing so when people are coming in, sure, I can see, when they're fat and juicy with TV, but when they're coming out, with no TV on them? That's stupid. Zos try to encourage people to play the content, and PvPers straight away do their best to discourage them.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Jesus. It never fails.

PvPers cry and moan about getting their "own event", because they want to be special, then when they get it they cry and moan about lonq queues and/or population induced lag.

I really do wonder about some of you.

It's normally different people asking/moaning, in these situations

Not to mention that it is reasonable to expect that a company won't introduce something its own servers can't handle (and they that they can't/won't mitigate for), even if it is asked for.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

eso_lags wrote: »

because we literally get *** on every single day and every single update by zos. Must be nice to get new content every update. Must be nice to have regular events. Must be nice to have that content function for the most part. Not cyrodil. Not even *** close. Of course we want events.

Well, if you like it just because you *nominally* get something, good for you. It's an empty gesture (and introduces new problems, as you've found out), but okay....

And you GOT new PvP content. It's called Imperial City, and 11.5 mths of the year it's dead, and even when it isn't, when Zos try to encourage new people to play it, you have idiots sitting outside the spawn points ganking people coming OUT of the base. Like they are in RD on XNA now. 3 reds, not a one lower than a 1 star, sitting there dark and ganking away. Doing so when people are coming in, sure, I can see, when they're fat and juicy with TV, but when they're coming out, with no TV on them? That's stupid. Zos try to encourage people to play the content, and PvPers straight away do their best to discourage them.

lol found out today? New problems? Alright.. IC is populated. IC is fun. I've had some great pvp in IC since elsweyr. Pvp that wouldnt have been possible in a laggy 30 day or dead 7 day campaign. It sounds like you had some bad experiences, I get it. But the answer would be to try and improve so you can kill the people doing this to you, or get some friends to help. Regardless its a pvp zone. And I cant really take you serious when you dismiss what I said as " you got new pvp content, its called IC".

The first DLC, the only pvp DLC. Many years and mainly pve focused updates later and thats all we have. Except for BG's which is not a pvp dlc and doesnt have CP for those of us that want to use it.

This isnt an empty gesture its a good gesture. Pvp events are good and can be more fun than we have all year. Its actually hilarious to me the extent people will go to defend this company. They make good moves, they put out good content, but at the end of the day when they ignore performance issues for years the good things they do wont matter. Its an issue with the structure of the game.

Let me put in into perceptive for you. How would you feel if any of these things happened to you. You are doing a dungeon or trial and your skills are going off 5 seconds late. Some skills are just not working. Enemies are teleporting around, and you die. Or maybe you are a crafter and you are making a set of gear or something. But every other time you craft something the game flips out and just crafts something random. Like a you craft a gold ring and instead it gives you a fishy stick.

I could go on but im sure you get it. It just seems people cant understand things when its coming from pvp players. But no one is ever going to be happy til they fix it. Thankfully they seem to be making a move towards doing something about it, but im skeptical. Ill be the first to congratulate them if they do fix it, and do what I want to do which is to simply play the game. But until its fixed im going to post my feedback about it.