Both stamdk and stamsorc are nothing but disappointing in this regard. And to think stamDk does not even have a physical damage morph of spiked armor, stamsorc does not even have a class ultimate.

It does not matter that much for actual performance in PvP(most meta stam abilities come from weapon and guild skill lines anyways) but you will not find much fun or original in those classes compared to their magicka counterparts as zenimax did their best to ignore them for years.

dks have some really good stam morphs, Venomous Claw, Noxious Breath, Corrosive Armor, Take Flight and Flames of Oblivion scales with your highest stats. then dks have tons of very good magic utility skills. nothing to be disappointed with. well maybe Noxious Breaths hit box can be kinda wonky, so i hear.

Many of these Magicka class skills are utility type skills. Only one skill which is strictly designed to deal damage, and does not have a CC or healing or defensive component, is without a morph which either uses or scales off of Stam / Weapon Damage: Whip. All other Magicka DK skills without a Stam / Weapon Damage morph have some defensive, CC, or heal component, making their use reasonable for a StamDK. Neither Inhale nor Ash Cloud are particularly strong or useful in PvP on a StamDK outside of empowerment via a few niche sets, especially after the recent nerf to Cinder Storm, but they do have a heal / CC component, however weak in PvP. Ash Cloud does have some limited utility in Land Grab games, although perhaps not after this recent nerf, and Deep Breath has CC utility in some PvE scenarios.

PvP StamDKs have long found their greatest strength in wearing Heavy Armor and using Sword & Board, both of which suggest a sort of light hybridization: Stam Regen is disabled while blocking, but Mag Regen is not, and the Constitution passive provides as much Magicka restoration as Stamina. Furthermore, the Helping Hands passive provides Stamina through the use of Magicka skills.

The result of all this, in my view, is that Magicka utility skills are quite viable on a StamDK, and that Mag Regen is, circumstantially, as useful as Stam Regen. Most of these utility skills find little increase in power through Max Magicka or Spell Damage, so these things are not helpful for a StamDK, but Mag Regen allows these skills to be used more frequently.

Edit: actually Whip does have a morph with a heal component, but it's next to useless on a StamDK, and the other morph does at least buff Weapon Damage through its passive, but I think it's not worth the slot after the recent diminution.

One thought on that Jay, throughout the history of Western RPGs, "magicka" characters have had at their disposal a broader array of skills to use, but a more limited selection of equipment, while "stamina" characters have had a broader array of equipment to use, but a more limited selection of skills. This has generally been the case in ESO.

People say stamina have it boring but i disagree. Stam has more weap choices and skills meanwhile magicka has more class skills but most class skills are just non damage boring buffs or boring dots that takes forever to kill on low levels and stave animations sucks where as stam weapons have different animations.

As a stamdk and stamblade player i think these classes are fine.

Stamsorc on the other hand....

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

dks have some really good stam morphs, Venomous Claw, Noxious Breath, Corrosive Armor, Take Flight and Flames of Oblivion scales with your highest stats. then dks have tons of very good magic utility skills. nothing to be disappointed with. well maybe Noxious Breaths hit box can be kinda wonky, so i hear.

I could be holding your pocket/ have you stand directly in front of me and it will still miss 6 times out of 10.

MentalxHammer wrote: »

Fear not traveller, stam DK is a top tier pvp class. Many are in agreeance that the S-tier pvp classes in the game are mag sorc, and stam dk.

Also good call choosing nord, with the nerf to protective jewelry and pirate skele monster helm I believe nord to be the best pvp class for pretty much any build mag or stam.

Not quite correct. DK is in a good spot but they are not considered "S-tier". S-tier goes to Templar. Particularly magplar. I'd also say magsorc is in second after Magplar.

Kronuxx wrote: »

MentalxHammer wrote: »

Fear not traveller, stam DK is a top tier pvp class. Many are in agreeance that the S-tier pvp classes in the game are mag sorc, and stam dk.

Also good call choosing nord, with the nerf to protective jewelry and pirate skele monster helm I believe nord to be the best pvp class for pretty much any build mag or stam.

Not quite correct. DK is in a good spot but they are not considered "S-tier". S-tier goes to Templar. Particularly magplar. I'd also say magsorc is in second after Magplar.

You havent got hit with power-charge-sweep-jabs. It's OP in CP because of off balance +10% from charge then every hit after, which adds 10% to the power as well when it procs. Kinda broken.