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We def need some invisible walls in fungal grotto to porevent people from shorcutting the dungeon
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shortcut and then burn the last boss before the RPing healing can get there then leave group so they get kicked.3 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope. Talk to people, communicate with your group. The number of people who will jump after you asked to do the achievement is very small.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Most dungeons have a shortcut in place and I am confident that this is not by mistake. Did you know that you could skip most of the first pulls in Frostvault by hugging the right wall, if you bring up the map you can clearly see that it was designed this way.
Pretty confident much is by design and intended as well. I think Zos expected us to act like members of the intelligent species we are and communicate when needed. If someone has a specific intention they should form their own group and lead it since using GF you are literally giving up control.3 -
fossoyer✭✭✭No, no and no.
Juste ask to people to do whole dungeonEdited by fossoyer on September 4, 2019 11:25AM2 -
bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just say no to PuGs, because people are The Worst.
Edited by bearbelly on September 4, 2019 12:54PM1 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ya be considerate of your pug matesI hate getting this dungeon in random just for this very reason. If I'm doing it on an alt that hasn't done the quest yet, I'm at the mercy of a bunch of randoms who usually don't want to bother doing the whole dungeon. If I ask politely in chat to do the whole dungeon, half the time they just say "*#$&#*$ you" and do what they want anyway, knowing they can finish the dungeon with only three people.3 -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you need achievements and stuff, form a group for it. Otherwise people will skip.Xbox NA healer main
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TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ah ok yea I could see how that would be annoying. I don't think removing the waterfall jump is the right way to go though. Once you get your achievements you'll probably at least want the option to cut that dungeon's time down too. Perhaps finding a more considerate group is the answer. But I know that's entirely a dice roll in the group finder.0 -
fossoyer✭✭✭Hazurko_RaShan wrote: »no actually it was vet fg2 for the pledge of the undaunted.
In FG2 there is only one boss you can skip, the guy with 3 spiders.
Btw, most of people kill spiders...0 -
essi2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭just yah because reasonsFungal Grotto needs a new layout to prevent skipping all the bosses past the first one."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think the bigger problem is after battling through all those spiders (or jumping down the waterfall) there's always some guy who goes and hides in the husk like a little *itch at last boss. THOSE are the people who should be banned.0 -
grkkll✭✭✭✭There's a thing called group chat. If you ask the group not to skip the trash because you need the quest, before you get started, im pretty sure they'll help you.
This, I have no problem if there's someone wanting to complete the dungeon/quest.....otherwise no way, its not fun & its not clever0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭No thanks, some people want to get it done asap, we've run the content a thousand times. Uusally we are considerate and if someone in the group wants to doit all we'll go help. But if the 4 people wanna skip why not let them?
This *** posting is getting out of hand, why take away freedom from the players? In a game like this everyone should be able to enjoy the game THEIR way and NOT YOUR way
As you said enjoy it their way not your way its not enjoyable to everybody to have to chase somebody down because you're skipping something that other's need to get done not saying I have a problem with it I do it all the time but yet you're saying that the people who has a problem with it are saying that it's their way or the highway but yet you're saying the same thing buddy they need to make it enjoyable for everyoneEdited by Nordic__Knights on September 4, 2019 12:25PM0 -
Borat✭✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »No thanks, some people want to get it done asap, we've run the content a thousand times. Uusally we are considerate and if someone in the group wants to doit all we'll go help. But if the 4 people wanna skip why not let them?
This *** posting is getting out of hand, why take away freedom from the players? In a game like this everyone should be able to enjoy the game THEIR way and NOT YOUR way
As you said enjoy it their way not your way its not enjoyable to everybody to have to chase somebody down because you're skipping something that other's need to get done not saying I have a problem with it I do it all the time but yet you're saying that the people who has a problem with it are saying that it's their way or the highway but yet you're saying the same thing buddy they need to make it enjoyable for everyone
punctuation please, that is unreadebla. Also you didn't get my point xD1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »No thanks, some people want to get it done asap, we've run the content a thousand times. Uusally we are considerate and if someone in the group wants to doit all we'll go help. But if the 4 people wanna skip why not let them?
This *** posting is getting out of hand, why take away freedom from the players? In a game like this everyone should be able to enjoy the game THEIR way and NOT YOUR way
As you said enjoy it their way not your way its not enjoyable to everybody to have to chase somebody down because you're skipping something that other's need to get done not saying I have a problem with it I do it all the time but yet you're saying that the people who has a problem with it are saying that it's their way or the highway but yet you're saying the same thing buddy they need to make it enjoyable for everyone
punctuation please, that is unreadebla. Also you didn't get my point xD
No. I got your point your point is it would make it un enjoyable to you to have walls. there for wrong to add. but at the same time for others it may become enjoyable having walls. but again unliked by you. showing you cant make everyone happy. but you should make it where quest cant be skipped!!!!Edited by Nordic__Knights on September 4, 2019 1:00PM0 -
rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think that I have successfully soloed this dungeon on every character that I’ve tried it on. There are world bosses that are tougher to beat."Get off my lawn!"0 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No. Cuz a lot of people just wanna finish it. However, I will do the side bosses if people want to do them. They just need to say so."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Vercingetorix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Do you honestly think a wall is going to stop me? I'll continue to skip the boss in the corner and run right past him and the crab - out of principle. If you need the achievements, say so in chat - otherwise I'm skipping.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Vercingetorix wrote: »Do you honestly think a wall is going to stop me? I'll continue to skip the boss in the corner and run right past him and the crab - out of principle. If you need the achievements, say so in chat - otherwise I'm skipping.
And you know what 99% of people like you do when somebody ask
? just continue to run !!!! you might say here that you'll stop for people be honest with yourself do youEdited by Nordic__Knights on September 4, 2019 1:17PM1 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It depends on what I want to use the dungeon for.
For those I can solo (like FG1), more options is good so I have choices in how to do it.
Same when running a dungeon with friends while up on voice comm.
When pugging, however, I prefer no options. Just one simple path. Options with pugs means split groups, confusion and frustration.
TLDR: The only dungeons I will pug are ones with no 'options' or choices to screw up and cause confusion.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo0 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »Do you honestly think a wall is going to stop me? I'll continue to skip the boss in the corner and run right past him and the crab - out of principle. If you need the achievements, say so in chat - otherwise I'm skipping.
And you know what 99% of people like you do when somebody ask
? just continue to run !!!! you might say here that you'll stop for people be honest with yourself do you
Plz show me where u got those statistics because on the over 5 times the situation happened to me there is a 100% of people killing the bosses for my quest. PC EUEdited by zvavi on September 4, 2019 1:25PM0 -
Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yes at the door to stop ppl who moan about skipping getting inEdited by Alienoutlaw on September 4, 2019 1:26PM0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »Do you honestly think a wall is going to stop me? I'll continue to skip the boss in the corner and run right past him and the crab - out of principle. If you need the achievements, say so in chat - otherwise I'm skipping.
And you know what 99% of people like you do when somebody ask
? just continue to run !!!! you might say here that you'll stop for people be honest with yourself do you
Plz show me where u got those statistics because on the over 5 times the situation happened to me there is a 100% of people killing the bosses for my quest. PC EU
Hop over the PlayStation 4 North America try to ask somebody you don't know to do anyting as their quickly telling you to f**k off
Ive been in groups that will try to kick out someone for asking to do things that someone finds to boringEdited by Nordic__Knights on September 4, 2019 1:34PM1 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nah I like the fact that you can skip some of the fights. Also that dungeon is quite easy to Solo on Vet so if you feel like you want to beat all the bosses then go in solo or ask your friends to group with you to kill all the bosses.0
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