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Concealed weapon
Deathlord92
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I have asked this before I know. Please buff concealed weapon it’s been a weak skill for a long time.
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✭✭Submit feedback in game and be as detailed as possible. They wont respond here and may not see it.3 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think concealed is actually ok imo. The necro scythe skill needs a buff much more. It's weird having a 9k tooltip and only hitting people for 2k in PvP. It's amazing in PvE though...lolEdited by Akinos on August 29, 2019 2:12AMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp3 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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Just melee magblade actually feels viable it’s actually fun but concealed weapon just feels so weak compared to surprise attack. I just feel like they could maybe up tooltip damage on concealed weapon anything.Submit feedback in game and be as detailed as possible. They wont respond here and may not see it.
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Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And buff surprise attack while you’re at it because the Armor reduction it gives is way too weak and awkward to apply.3 -
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✭The problem isn't so much the (lack of) dmg, it is the lacking or too situational utility. The ability is way too reliant on cloak, which means for builds that are meant to actually fight and not just cloak spam arround, or once cloak gets countered, the skills loses all its utility.
If for example the cc would work when cast within 3s of using cloak and not only when actually used from stealth, and if the speed buff would work outside of stealth (maybe with some limitations, like for x seconds after leaving stealth) it would instantly become a useful skill, even without dmg buffs.0 -
OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭I think concealed is actually ok imo. The necro scythe skill needs a buff much more. It's weird having a 9k tooltip and only hitting people for 2k in PvP. It's amazing in PvE though...lol
Because the scythe is a tank percentage based heal, not supposed to be a damage skill. Use different skill if you are not a tank, like skull or force pulse.1 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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How’s concealed weapon ok imo it’s weak they could at least give of minor breach. And yes scythe could deffo be buffed but that’s for another thread.I think concealed is actually ok imo. The necro scythe skill needs a buff much more. It's weird having a 9k tooltip and only hitting people for 2k in PvP. It's amazing in PvE though...lol
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Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I love concealed weapon on my theif. Makes her move super fast in stealth since she also uses shadow dancer. At one time I also used stygian with it and the damage was pretty darned good that way.0 -
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✭Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.4 -
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I know good point I even left u an agree but I like the shadowy assassin type so I run shadow disguise 👍InvictusApollo wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.
Edited by Deathlord92 on September 8, 2019 2:15AM0 -
Chelo✭✭✭✭✭InvictusApollo wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.
Honestly, Shadowy Disguise give like 300% more survivability than Dark Cloak... The ability to trick and entire Zerg and run away, is better that a common HoT. Dark Cloak should have the ability to purge DoTs because the healing is not enough.
And about Concealed Weapon, the sad truth is that ZOS should forget the idea of a Melee Magicka NB and just completely rework the skill to make it more in par with the Range theme of the MagNB, same as they rework Dark Cloak (it does a completely different thing than Shadowy Disguise).
So Concealed Weapon and Surprise Attack don't have to be the exact same copy with the only difference of Magicka and Stamina, Concealed Weapon could be an entirely different skill for the range magicka playstyle that the MagNB already have...
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There are those of us that actually enjoy melee magblade.InvictusApollo wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.
Honestly, Shadowy Disguise give like 300% more survivability than Dark Cloak... The ability to trick and entire Zerg and run away, is better that a common HoT. Dark Cloak should have the ability to purge DoTs because the healing is not enough.
And about Concealed Weapon, the sad truth is that ZOS should forget the idea of a Melee Magicka NB and just completely rework the skill to make it more in par with the Range theme of the MagNB, same as they rework Dark Cloak (it does a completely different thing than Shadowy Disguise).
So Concealed Weapon and Surprise Attack don't have to be the exact same copy with the only difference of Magicka and Stamina, Concealed Weapon could be an entirely different skill for the range magicka playstyle that the MagNB already have...
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Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭InvictusApollo wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.
Not disagreeing. However, dark cloak is a nice heal but it sacrifices the class signature skill to exist. Imagine if in order to get streak it was the opposite morph of hardened ward. Breath of life opposite of extended ritual.
On topic, concealed and suprise attack need improvement. Besides, If running dark cloak, what exactly is that 25% stealth speed doing?
Absolutely nothing.Edited by Royalthought on September 8, 2019 4:39AM2 -
MojaveHeld✭✭✭✭✭Buffing nb burst damage is a bad idea unless they make some nerfs to shadowy disguise, which I don't think most nb's would be very happy about.Edited by MojaveHeld on September 8, 2019 4:46AM0 -
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Exactly 👍Royalthought wrote: »InvictusApollo wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »Magblade should be a hard hitting machine as it has no class heal like the other classes 😎
Dark Cloak - one of the best heals in game.
Not disagreeing. However, dark cloak is a nice heal but it sacrifices the class signature skill to exist. Imagine if in order to get streak it was the opposite morph of hardened ward. Breath of life opposite of extended ritual.
On topic, concealed and suprise attack need improvement. Besides, If running dark cloak, what exactly is that 25% stealth speed doing?
Absolutely nothing.
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✭✭MojaveHeld wrote: »Buffing nb burst damage is a bad idea unless they make some nerfs to shadowy disguise, which I don't think most nb's would be very happy about.
I would happily take a Cloak nerf if I got my Berserk back and Fracture on SA and an Incap which isn’t garbage. Sadly what’s probably going to happen is the forum cryers are going to get Cloak nerfed and NB burst won’t get buffed either.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think people will miss the point that this is the mag based morph. It's been kind of mediocre even in NBs hay day. Best use I have for it is back barring on a troll bow build for speed.1 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭MojaveHeld wrote: »Buffing nb burst damage is a bad idea unless they make some nerfs to shadowy disguise, which I don't think most nb's would be very happy about.
Im not saying burst should or shouldnt. But out of curiosity, Why not? Is it because they're nightblades?
Theres a class we can say that has been the best tank (since beta). The best healer (since beta). The best AoE class. The best group utility class. Etc. And we're ok with that.
Nightblades were once the best single target class. But we werent ok with that. Nerfed and no longer top. Other classes remained best in their category but also received damage buffs to rival nightblades.
So I'm curious as to why nightblades should be held back?1 -
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✭I think concealed is actually ok imo. The necro scythe skill needs a buff much more. It's weird having a 9k tooltip and only hitting people for 2k in PvP. It's amazing in PvE though...lol
It needs to be faster. And honestly think it should do 3 slashes or kind of like whip it should have a chance to proc a higher damage skill.0 -
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✭✭✭Concealed is okayish. The main problem like others have said is the ability doesn’t make without Shadowy Disguise.
The stealth speed is awesome though. If they change it I’d be sad if they removed it.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
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Same here and I can’t believe the amount of players still hating on nb it’s crazy 😂MojaveHeld wrote: »Buffing nb burst damage is a bad idea unless they make some nerfs to shadowy disguise, which I don't think most nb's would be very happy about.
I would happily take a Cloak nerf if I got my Berserk back and Fracture on SA and an Incap which isn’t garbage. Sadly what’s probably going to happen is the forum cryers are going to get Cloak nerfed and NB burst won’t get buffed either.
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