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Burning Spellweave, Mother's Sorrow, And Skoria sets make for a great pve experience?
Hazurko_RaShan
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Burning Spellweave, Mother's Sorrow, And Skoria sets make for a great pve experience? 81 votes
strongly agree
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21 votes
mostly agree
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33 votes
somewhat agree
14%
12 votes
neither agree or disagree
9%
8 votes
somewhat disagree
3%
3 votes
mostly disagree
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1 vote
strongly disagree
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3 votes
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EDIT: I thought this thread was asking about the current state of the gear meta (read Skoria as Siroria).
Yes, BSW + MS + Skoria is a good setup.Edited by MLGProPlayer on August 28, 2019 8:37AM0 -
Matthew_Galvanus✭✭✭✭✭
✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »We have False God's Devotion now as well. It parses well below Siroria, but it's also a lot more versatile, and it lets other races into the meta.
I think there is a fair amount of gear balance at the moment. It's no longer just Siroria + SS or bust.
the only problem with Siroria is the fact that most mag players cant really afford to stand still for too long, which is probably why FGD is the meta bis now
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darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭mostly agreeIt does what you need. Dependable, reliable, and user friendly. Not BIS in every case but never far from BIS either.2 -
Vermethys✭✭✭✭mostly agreeIt's a good combo, but False God + Mother's Sorrow + Zaan is a better combo in most scenarios. If you can't use Zaan, try Slimecraw.PC EU CP1400+
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✭✭mostly agreeYeah, I really like Burning spellweave as a set design I wish there were more of them like it.0 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭somewhat disagreeBurning spellweave is nice but it highly depends on your race and playstyle imo.Edited by DTStormfox on August 28, 2019 11:53AM2
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭strongly disagree@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.1 -
Vildebill✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭strongly disagreep_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
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purple-magicb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭strongly agreep_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
Not true wrt BSW. I've been using this exact build with my mag necro. Totally agree on playstyle tho, if by that you mean skill choice. This build works for me b/c my char is fire mage and I rely heavily on dots for my damage, when in group. I have difficulty getting away with Skoria doing dungeons solo tho cause the necro heal is garbage, so I swap for the damage shield on Iceheart and it helps.
BTW the poll says "make for a great pve experience", not "BIS" which is why I said strongly agree. I think a lot of ppl are thinking it's not bis so vote the build lower. It will definitely give you a great pve experience and you will achieve your goals with this set.Edited by purple-magicb16_ESO on August 28, 2019 1:57PMI don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]0 -
sevomd69✭✭✭✭✭
✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
Double bar Inferno Staff...light attacks, elemental wall, flame enchant, flame reach (this patch), Destro Ulti or Shooting Star...
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p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭strongly disagreepurple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
Not true wrt BSW. I've been using this exact build with my mag necrosorc. Totally agree on playstyle tho, if by that you mean skill choice. This build works for me b/c my char is fire mage and I rely heavily on dots for my damage, when in group. I have difficulty getting away with Skoria doing dungeons solo tho cause the necro heal is garbage, so I swap for the damage sield on Iceheart and it helps.
Make your mind you have necro or sorc?
Sorc has 0 fire skills to benefit from BSW, Necro has Blastbones & Skull, and these resulting to less than 30% of the overall damage. You have to do over 75% of a certain damage type, to get damage type specific set.
And on current "meta" skill line up, even Necro does more Magic & Shock than fire damage.
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Vercingetorix✭✭✭✭✭
✭mostly agreeI'd argue that a channeling HA build with a DoT rotation would be more effective and easier to learn. Using MS and Infallible Aether you can provide your group 100% uptime for Minor Vulnerability while you stack DoTs and channel large HA's onto the target. This build is innately sustainable due to the HA's so you can run a more aggressive setup with blue food.
A few classes can capitalize on this strategy:
- Dragonknights can buff their HA's further with Molten Armaments and have Engulfing Flames
- Necromancers have the Rapid Rot passive to increase all DoT damage by 10%
- Templars have two very strong class DoTs, one of which is an execute“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”0 -
p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭strongly disagreep_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
Double bar Inferno Staff...light attacks, elemental wall, flame enchant, flame reach (this patch), Destro Ulti or Shooting Star...
So sub 15K dps at best.1 -
Number_51✭✭✭✭✭somewhat agreePrefer Silks of the Sun over Mother's Sorrow on magDK. And if you're magDK, which I find plays less at range and a bit closer in, might as well go Grothdar over Skoria.0
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purple-magicb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭strongly agreep_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »purple-magicb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
Not true wrt BSW. I've been using this exact build with my mag necrosorc. Totally agree on playstyle tho, if by that you mean skill choice. This build works for me b/c my char is fire mage and I rely heavily on dots for my damage, when in group. I have difficulty getting away with Skoria doing dungeons solo tho cause the necro heal is garbage, so I swap for the damage sield on Iceheart and it helps.
Make your mind you have necro or sorc?
Sorc has 0 fire skills to benefit from BSW, Necro has Blastbones & Skull, and these resulting to less than 30% of the overall damage. You have to do over 75% of a certain damage type, to get damage type specific set.
And on current "meta" skill line up, even Necro does more Magic & Shock than fire damage.
Lol! Sry that just necro. I use flame destro staff skills with this (my earlier comment on use of skills). Can't comment on magic or shock set ups, the bsw skoria and sorrow sets are hand-me-downs from other chars. Both bsw and skoria fire just fine for me and I've never had any problems completing dungeons or any complaints from groups. Again maybe not bis but you will get a great pve experience with this build.
Btw necro has flameskull so they do have flameskill. Been using this since day 1 necro. Also you don't have to do 75% anything. Put on a set, try it out, if it works use it.Edited by purple-magicb16_ESO on August 28, 2019 1:06PMI don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]0 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭mostly agreep_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
Double bar Inferno Staff...light attacks, elemental wall, flame enchant, flame reach (this patch), Destro Ulti or Shooting Star...
So sub 15K dps at best.
2 items: Adds 12-1096 Maximum Magicka
3 items: Adds 1-129 Spell Damage
4 items: Adds 9-833 Spell Critical
5 items: When you deal damage with a Flame Damage ability, you have a 15% chance to apply the Burning status effect to the enemy and increase your Spell Damage by 6-525 for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 12 seconds.
All those mentioned abilities (and maaaybe the normal burning proc too?) will increase all you spell damage for all abilities. It just flat increases your spell damage like Julianos and Scathing Mage. Maybe you're thinking of Silks of the Sun or Elemental Progression which do only boost the elemental damage?0 -
Rave the Histborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
Double bar Inferno Staff...light attacks, elemental wall, flame enchant, flame reach (this patch), Destro Ulti or Shooting Star...
So sub 15K dps at best.
Or you don't know how to use the set at all. That seems more likely11 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭somewhat agreeI’m not sure if it’s BiS or not, but get you some of that False God’s Devotion. And either of those other sets. It will be an even better experience. IMO.
Skoria is good. Cool visual effects. Looks awesome. I like Grothdar or Iceheart with the hide helm option. They both ugly af.
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Vildebill✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@p_tsakirisb16_ESO
Not sure if you are serious or not but, as other people here already mentioned, BSW procs of flame damage, and since most people run double fire staves and light attack weaves, blockade, a fire enchantment, maybe fire rune (not sure if normal burning effect procs BSW's separate burning effect as well) you'll have a good uptime on the set, which would be around 350 spell damage, plus the separate burning proc that also deals damage. You can also frontbar it, which also enables you to have more spell damage when you use your spammable, and have 100% uptime on your other set, like mother's sorrow.
If you, after reading this, still think BSW is bad on other classes than Magicka DK, you and I doesn't have much more to say to each other.EU PC3 -
UndeniablyAVG✭✭✭✭I think there might be some confusion, Burning Spell weave procs from flame damage however it gives a flat bonus to spell damage that is not linked to any element when procced.
Unlike Silks of the sun which adds spell damage to just your fire damage. BTW silks is no obsolete when compared to the new Elemental Succession set.PS4 EU - Daggerfall Covenant
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Grandma✭✭✭✭✭somewhat agreeThere are better things to run but this is your bread and butter base game setup that's fine.
Siroria and false god's will out perform bsw of course, and 2pc spell crit monster sets are stronger than skoria for range [and zaans and grothdar are better for melee st/aoe] but you can still be mostly competitive with these.GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer0 -
SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭somewhat agreeFalse God's >>>>>>> BSW
If you're a magden, the best PvE combo to use outside of vet trials and situations where you're going to want to squeeze every bit of DPS out of your gear is Necropotence (I assume Crafty Alfiq would be fine too), False God's, and Iceheart. This is especially strong when playing solo- with the magden's shields and heals you can basically survive a nuclear apocalypse. I hope you like Twinkies (the "food", not Kyne re-rollers) and mutant cockroaches.1 -
sevomd69✭✭✭✭✭
✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
Double bar Inferno Staff...light attacks, elemental wall, flame enchant, flame reach (this patch), Destro Ulti or Shooting Star...
So sub 15K dps at best.
Maybe for you...
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »@Hazurko_RaShan depends class.
BSW is useless set for all but DK.
Skoria is iffy. There are better sets depending playstyle. Like Grothdarr and Zaan. Some might argue Ilambris if you plan to do fire/shock damage only.
@Kadoin also.
Explain then what good BSW will provide to
a) Templar with 1 fire damage skill?
b) NB who has 0 fire damage skill?
c) Sorcerer who has 0 fire damage skill?
d) Warden who has 0 fire damage skill?
As a Sorcerer, I have the following sources of Fire damage:
- Light Attacks, 1 per sec
- Scalding Rune, 0.6 per sec
- Flame Reach, 0.6 per sec
- Flame Enchant, 0.4 per sec
- Unstable Wall, 1 per sec
- Burning, 0.6 per sec
That totals over 4 hits of fire damage every second on a single enemy (more with AoE). BSW is definitely useful for Sorcerer, or any class. And that’s not even counting using a Fire Damage ultimate or monster set.0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭strongly disagreeThree sets I will never use because they are either boring (aka, un-fun) or inaccessible to me.
Few things make the PvE experience more dreadful than farming for gear, which is why I almost never do it. I will never put together a set of burning spellweave, and I will definitely never put together a set of whatever that trial set is considering I do trials maybe once in a blue moon. And mother's sorrow has a bad name (granted, it makes sense in reference to a questline in that zone) and is just super duper boring. All it does is add to crit chance. Booooorrrriiiiing. I sell all the pieces I get at outrageous prices because apparently people think they are worth that much. More gold for me!Edited by Starlock on August 29, 2019 9:14PM0
