Why do we need Truly Undaunted unlocked

TheBonesXXX
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In order to get the passive bonuses unlocked?

I have rank 9 undaunted, there is no Undaunted Ulti, so why are the limit to buy the skill line for other alts set at 10?

Can you change it to 8 or 9?
  • Dojohoda
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    The return of level 10 undaunted--

    You will get an achievement at 10. The achievement does nothing except give a few achievement points and allows the following...

    You will be able to buy undaunted for your alts if one of your characters has level 10 in undaunted.

    Level 10 undaunted is bland since, as you pointed out, includes no gameplay value, (no ulti).
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Man, damn, I thought I'm lazy, but you just rose the plank.
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  • oddbasket
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    Reaching rank 10 gives you another Undaunted achievement, and Undaunted achievements give you Undaunted xp which you use to level Undaunted skill line to rank... wait a *** minute!
  • AcadianPaladin
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    I viewed L10 as just another title so not important. @Dojohoda makes a good point though, as I guess it can also help unlock buying the skill line for your alts if so inclined.
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  • TheBonesXXX
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    I viewed L10 as just another title so not important. @Dojohoda makes a good point though, as I guess it can also help unlock buying the skill line for your alts if so inclined.

    That was my point, it adds no gameplay value so why is rank 10 the mark to buy it for other characters?
  • TheBonesXXX
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    Man, damn, I thought I'm lazy, but you just rose the plank.
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    You may be lazy, I dont like my time wasted. Games grindy enough as it is.
  • Nestor
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    Mettle is a pretty good passive
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  • TheBonesXXX
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Mettle is a pretty good passive

    Yes, thats why I dont understand why I cant buy the line when all of the passives are unlocked.
  • virtus753
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    Undaunted used to cap out at 9. A while ago they raised it to 10 to bring it into accordance with other base-game guilds (Mages and Fighters). Before they changed it, you could fill up the level 9 bar, but it would sit there and never roll over to 10 like its peers.

    Since they’ve invested in level 10 by giving it a title and now locking the skill line purchase behind it, I don’t see them reverting back to 9 at this point.

    What would be nice is if they gave us another ability that unlocked at level 10. That would bring it even more in line with the Mages and Fighters guilds and give level 10 a reason to exist other than that the other two have it.
  • DemonDruaga
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    Its about time they add in an ultimate to that line. They had years to brainstorm ..
    Edited by DemonDruaga on August 28, 2019 7:24AM
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  • Ryath_Waylander
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    Hmm, an undaunted Ulti.. how about dumping your Ulti does nothing for you... but instantly recharges your 3 closest group members' Ultimates? Eh then again that could be abused in pvp I guess but could be useful if you've got the boss in execute range.
    Edited by Ryath_Waylander on August 28, 2019 7:47AM
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Hmm, an undaunted Ulti.. how about dumping your Ulti does nothing for you... but instantly recharges your 3 closest group members' Ultimates? Eh then again that could be abused in pvp I guess but could be useful if you've got the boss in execute range.

    Every synergy in the group for the next N seconds has XYZ additional benefit.
  • daemonios
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    ESO is now GoT (game of twinks). ZOS have caved to every request to make creating and leveling new characters mind-numbingly easy. Xp scrolls for Clowns, riding lessons for Clowns, skill lines for Clowns. Why not make an Elder Scrolls Battle Royale game at this point, where players are simply dumped in a zone and grab random gear?

    I do understand the appeal of twinking. What irks me is that in order to cater to this crowd, the entire player base is affected. This was not the style of game we had at launch, it turned into it later.
  • Sandman929
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    I ran into this as well, and yeah, it's quite annoying. I only went to 9, because that's when all the skills and passives are unlocked and I could finally stop PvEing.
  • commodore64
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    Move Mettle rank 2 unlock to Lvl 10, problem solved.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    I ran into this as well, and yeah, it's quite annoying. I only went to 9, because that's when all the skills and passives are unlocked and I could finally stop PvEing.

    You need skill points from dungeon quests anyway. When you finish doing all quests (in vet HM) you will already hit undaunted 10.
  • Jayman1000
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    You have to wonder though why ZOS decided to not put any abilities under the lvl 10 undaunted. Other skills unlocks abilities at the highest level, but for some reason not undaunted?
  • Tatanko
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    If you can't be bothered to level up Undaunted, how well do you really know that character anyway? I have to run several dungeons with a new character, even and especially after hitting 50, before I feel even somewhat comfortable with their setup. If you're making another character that's extremely similar to an existing one, then why not just make a second loadout for the original rather than a whole new character? Seems like less work to me.
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  • Kadoin
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    Tatanko wrote: »
    If you can't be bothered to level up Undaunted, how well do you really know that character anyway? I have to run several dungeons with a new character, even and especially after hitting 50, before I feel even somewhat comfortable with their setup. If you're making another character that's extremely similar to an existing one, then why not just make a second loadout for the original rather than a whole new character? Seems like less work to me.

    Because PvE is boring...
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