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Undo/Termporal Guard is broken.

Trian94
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The skill doesn't work. Press the ultimate and it doesn't even do the animation, it just spends ultimate points. I mean we knew it wasn't working properly before but right now it's just there for the passive when slotted. Please look into this and fix it.


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  • DemonDruaga
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    Did cost me quite some lifes 😁
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  • Mrsinister2
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    The only time it works for me is when I hit it on accident while trying to use a offensive ult so instead it teleoports me 4 seconds away from my opponent :lol:

    Trying to use it to get out of a bad situation and you just stand there glowing with no ult left.
  • Firstmep
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    Not worth slotting, it will just make you rage.
    Use whatever defensive ult you can in its place.
    Id love to juke ppl with it again, but not worth getting worked up over it. Been broken for a long time now.
  • Major_Lag
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    Trian94 wrote: »
    The skill doesn't work.

    You must be new here...? It hasn't worked properly in many months, and quite possibly never.

    Every PvPer I know (who uses the skill at all) only uses temporal guard for the passive, and never actually activates the ulti.

    And in heavy lag, activating ANY ultimate is pointless - you will be just standing there like a lemon with 0 ultimate points and no effect to show for it.
  • Derra
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    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Trian94 wrote: »
    The skill doesn't work.

    You must be new here...? It hasn't worked properly in many months, and quite possibly never.

    Every PvPer I know (who uses the skill at all) only uses temporal guard for the passive, and never actually activates the ulti.

    And in heavy lag, activating ANY ultimate is pointless - you will be just standing there like a lemon with 0 ultimate points and no effect to show for it.

    It worked flawlessly in summerset release patch and has been bugged since murkmire.

    It was hands down the best defensive ultimate in the game when it worked - bc it actually required some thought to use aswell. So exactly the type ofskill zos doesn´t want to have in the game.
    Edited by Derra on August 24, 2019 9:09AM
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  • Major_Lag
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    Derra wrote: »
    It was hands down the best defensive ultimate in the game when it worked - bc it actually required some thought to use aswell. So exactly the type ofskill zos doesn´t want to have in the game.
    As much as I agree with the notion that ZOS has been systematically removing opportunities for skillful play from all of PvP, IMO you are really overthinking it in this case.

    The skill doesn't work, because it requires the server to keep track of what your position and resources were 4 seconds ago, at ALL times... which simply can't work properly with all the horrible lag.

    I'd say that my point is further backed up by the observation that more or less all ultimates fail to work correctly (if at all) during times of heavy lag, not just Undo and its morphs.

    Never attribute to malice that what is most likely the result of sheer incompetence...
    Edited by Major_Lag on August 24, 2019 9:17AM
  • Ash_In_My_Sujamma
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    If you get rooted or stuned before you cast it, it doesn't work. Also, if you cast it and a "projectile" knockback (like meteor or leap) which was cast before you pressed the R button, lands on you while you are in the middle of your travel, you will get stuck in geometry.
  • Thanatos_inside
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    thats old bug and zos ignores it
  • Trian94
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    I like how people say "use another ultimate". Like what am I supposed to use as a defensive ultimate on 2h/bow stamsorc? Atronach? lmao.
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  • Trian94
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    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Trian94 wrote: »
    The skill doesn't work.

    You must be new here...? It hasn't worked properly in many months, and quite possibly never.

    Every PvPer I know (who uses the skill at all) only uses temporal guard for the passive, and never actually activates the ulti.

    And in heavy lag, activating ANY ultimate is pointless - you will be just standing there like a lemon with 0 ultimate points and no effect to show for it.

    I'm here before most people. I know it has been bugged. But recently it didn't even display the animation it did when it was bugging out leaving you in the same spot where you casted it. It was just spending your ultimate. Luckily that was resolved by repairing the game for some reaso (lol). The initial bug isn't gonna get fixed soon anyways.
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Just slot NB instead.
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  • iRaivyne
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    The only time it works for me is when I hit it on accident while trying to use a offensive ult so instead it teleoports me 4 seconds away from my opponent :lol:

    Trying to use it to get out of a bad situation and you just stand there glowing with no ult left.

    I thought I was the only one! lol
  • StrandedMonkey
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    People here are saying don't slot it like it doesn't give minor protection WHILE slotted.
  • Solace1981
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    Trian94 wrote: »
    I like how people say "use another ultimate". Like what am I supposed to use as a defensive ultimate on 2h/bow stamsorc? Atronach? lmao.

    How is Atronach a defensive ultimate? Temporal Guard is used only for the minor protection buff you get for being slotted. Sounds like a pretty solid defensive buff. If Temp Guard is your idea of a defensive ult, then use at your own risk.
  • NekoN3ko
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    If I could disable this skill and only have it for passive that would be AWESOME.....
  • Bosov
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    People here are saying don't slot it like it doesn't give minor protection WHILE slotted.

    Only reason i slot it. The idea of the skill is cool though and when i combine it with shade + cloak AND if the skill works it his hilarious to use.

    15+ people spamming aoes, magelight and other stuff while im nowhere near them anymore.
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  • Mawx
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    Undo is such a strong skill, the fact that it allows you to reset a fight, it is a shame that it's broken. I usually slot it just to get the passives (like the minor protection or the little damage shield), but I really try to not depend on it, only pop it on extreme cases where I have nothing to lose already.
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  • Trian94
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    Solace1981 wrote: »
    Trian94 wrote: »
    I like how people say "use another ultimate". Like what am I supposed to use as a defensive ultimate on 2h/bow stamsorc? Atronach? lmao.

    How is Atronach a defensive ultimate? Temporal Guard is used only for the minor protection buff you get for being slotted. Sounds like a pretty solid defensive buff. If Temp Guard is your idea of a defensive ult, then use at your own risk.

    i was being sarcastic
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    Derra wrote: »
    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Trian94 wrote: »
    The skill doesn't work.

    You must be new here...? It hasn't worked properly in many months, and quite possibly never.

    Every PvPer I know (who uses the skill at all) only uses temporal guard for the passive, and never actually activates the ulti.

    And in heavy lag, activating ANY ultimate is pointless - you will be just standing there like a lemon with 0 ultimate points and no effect to show for it.

    It worked flawlessly in summerset release patch and has been bugged since murkmire.

    It was hands down the best defensive ultimate in the game when it worked - bc it actually required some thought to use aswell. So exactly the type ofskill zos doesn´t want to have in the game.

    This. The patch in which they “fixed” the streak bug by changing the positioning checks from server to client side on teleports is the patch that broke Undo.

    The irony, of course, is that streak but wasn’t fixed at all. Only the weird issues where you got CC mid streak were improved.
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    Thogard wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Major_Lag wrote: »
    Trian94 wrote: »
    The skill doesn't work.

    You must be new here...? It hasn't worked properly in many months, and quite possibly never.

    Every PvPer I know (who uses the skill at all) only uses temporal guard for the passive, and never actually activates the ulti.

    And in heavy lag, activating ANY ultimate is pointless - you will be just standing there like a lemon with 0 ultimate points and no effect to show for it.

    It worked flawlessly in summerset release patch and has been bugged since murkmire.

    It was hands down the best defensive ultimate in the game when it worked - bc it actually required some thought to use aswell. So exactly the type ofskill zos doesn´t want to have in the game.

    This. The patch in which they “fixed” the streak bug by changing the positioning checks from server to client side on teleports is the patch that broke Undo.

    The irony, of course, is that streak but wasn’t fixed at all. Only the weird issues where you got CC mid streak were improved.

    I think that's when they broke Shade again, too.. after a very small window of it working basically flawlessly IIRC.
    It's disgusting how long Undo and morphs have been broken, especially considering that it was the capstone ability of the new skill line from the most recent paid expansion at the time.
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