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Why isn't there a race immune to concussion status?

sly007
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Dunmer immune to burning
Nord immune to chilled
Argonian immune to diseased
Bosmer immune to poisoned
Edited by sly007 on August 24, 2019 5:26PM
  • Uryel
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    Assuming you mean "immunity", you got it wrong.

    Argonians should be immune to poison. Everywhere in the game, they tell you they eat poison for breakfast, that everything in Black Marsh is toxic for everyone else and so on. Then again, the lore says they are ALSO immune to disease, but it's not as obvious in the game, so if they were to keep only one imunity, it should be poison.

    As for the Bosmers, there are quests in Grahtwood where you can obviously notice they are NOT immune to poison. Specifically, a tribe that was going to be butchered ate slow poison, so their killers would die of pisoning when eating them. Which means they are not immune to poison. Makes more sense that they'd be immune to disease anyway, what with them eating suspicious meats of all sorts.
  • sly007
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    Uryel wrote: »
    Assuming you mean "immunity", you got it wrong.

    Argonians should be immune to poison. Everywhere in the game, they tell you they eat poison for breakfast, that everything in Black Marsh is toxic for everyone else and so on. Then again, the lore says they are ALSO immune to disease, but it's not as obvious in the game, so if they were to keep only one imunity, it should be poison.

    As for the Bosmers, there are quests in Grahtwood where you can obviously notice they are NOT immune to poison. Specifically, a tribe that was going to be butchered ate slow poison, so their killers would die of pisoning when eating them. Which means they are not immune to poison. Makes more sense that they'd be immune to disease anyway, what with them eating suspicious meats of all sorts.

    I'm talking about racial passives here.
  • Rake
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    Race immune to logic
  • JusticeForJilarga
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    This one thinks if there are race advantages there should also be race weaknesses.
    Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers

    Khajiit Quote Of The Day.
    "These useless senche could only kill a rat if they fell upon it. From a great height."
  • OG_Kaveman
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    Put a resist shock on your jewelry, https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Glyph_of_Shock_Resist, boom immune to concussion from lightning damage.
  • Rake
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    Race immune to racial balance
  • Jayman1000
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    What is orc immune to?
  • susmitds
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    Khajiit should be immune to Concussion technically, as actual cats and animals with fur are. Their furcoat should act as an anti-static layer and keep electricity on going in.
  • JusticeForJilarga
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    What are Khajiits Immune to?
    Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers

    Khajiit Quote Of The Day.
    "These useless senche could only kill a rat if they fell upon it. From a great height."
  • Jayman1000
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Khajiit should be immune to Concussion technically, as actual cats and animals with fur are. Their furcoat should act as an anti-static layer and keep electricity on going in.

    EDIT: ah I get it now, concussion is from electric shock, so fur is insulating effect on electricity.
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    I dont think cats or furry animals especially resilient to concussion? where does this come from?
    Edited by Jayman1000 on August 24, 2019 5:49PM
  • Mrsinister2
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    Wtb race immune to lag and crashing to login
  • SidraWillowsky
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    What is orc immune to?

    Being good-looking
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    That would be giants...
  • zaria
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    Uryel wrote: »
    Assuming you mean "immunity", you got it wrong.

    Argonians should be immune to poison. Everywhere in the game, they tell you they eat poison for breakfast, that everything in Black Marsh is toxic for everyone else and so on. Then again, the lore says they are ALSO immune to disease, but it's not as obvious in the game, so if they were to keep only one imunity, it should be poison.

    As for the Bosmers, there are quests in Grahtwood where you can obviously notice they are NOT immune to poison. Specifically, a tribe that was going to be butchered ate slow poison, so their killers would die of pisoning when eating them. Which means they are not immune to poison. Makes more sense that they'd be immune to disease anyway, what with them eating suspicious meats of all sorts.
    No they are not immune, just resistant. Green venom tongue ate poisons to get an increased resistance and this turned his tongue green. Amusingly an Argonian in Elsweyr was able to help the Khajiit in group to safety because the the resistance as he became less sick.

    Immunity against poison would be idiotic OP as loads of the stamina attacks does poison damage.

    But yes no idea why they did not give the Bosmer disease resistance and the Argonian poison. Tweak the numbers as needed.

    Correction, you are immune to the status effect but only resistant to the damage.

    For shock I would pick Khajiit, they pick up plenty of static electricity with their fur anyway.
    You can charge up cats with static electricity rubbing stuff like an balloon against their fur.
    Edited by zaria on August 24, 2019 6:19PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • sly007
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    zaria wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    Assuming you mean "immunity", you got it wrong.

    Argonians should be immune to poison. Everywhere in the game, they tell you they eat poison for breakfast, that everything in Black Marsh is toxic for everyone else and so on. Then again, the lore says they are ALSO immune to disease, but it's not as obvious in the game, so if they were to keep only one imunity, it should be poison.

    As for the Bosmers, there are quests in Grahtwood where you can obviously notice they are NOT immune to poison. Specifically, a tribe that was going to be butchered ate slow poison, so their killers would die of pisoning when eating them. Which means they are not immune to poison. Makes more sense that they'd be immune to disease anyway, what with them eating suspicious meats of all sorts.
    No they are not immune, just resistant. Green venom tongue ate poisons to get an increased resistance and this turned his tongue green. Amusingly an Argonian in Elsweyr was able to help the Khajiit in group to safety because the the resistance as he became less sick.

    Immunity against poison would be idiotic OP as loads of the stamina attacks does poison damage.

    But yes no idea why they did not give the Bosmer disease resistance and the Argonian poison. Tweak the numbers as needed.

    Correction, you are immune to the status effect but only resistant to the damage.

    For shock I would pick Khajiit, they pick up plenty of static electricity with their fur anyway.
    You can charge up cats with static electricity rubbing stuff like an balloon against their fur.

    Yea, that would make some sense.
  • BlueRaven
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    That would be giants...

    They Might be giants!

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    But seriously, orcs would come closest I guess, as they are supposed to be the “tank-y” race. So let’s just go with nords, because when it come to eso and lore anything goes I guess.
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    post concussion syndrome has become a serious problem for those playing in battlegrounds si i would hope you all would start taking this topic a lot more seriously please.
  • Royaji
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    Because there isn't one lore-wise?

    dodges all the rotten tomatoes thrown by Bosmer and Argonian players

    typos
    Edited by Royaji on August 24, 2019 10:17PM
  • GusTheWizard
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    Bretons get 2310 Spell Resistance when They’re Burning, Chilled, or Concussed.
    Concussion just makes you do more damage while your target is concussed so that’s kinda like what the other races get.
    Edited by GusTheWizard on August 24, 2019 10:55PM
  • WrathOfInnos
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    In the lore, Shock/Concussion Resistance would be most associated with Nord (see passives in ES3). However Nords are known more for their resistance to Frost, so it makes sense for that to be chosen if the devs did not want them to have both immunities for balance reasons.

    Breton and Orc would be the next best options by lore, since both have some resistance to magic in previous games (which includes Shock). I once suggested that Orc be given this immunity, but that was part of a larger plan to shift some passives around for lore and balance. In the current state of race balance, I don’t believe Orc or Breton need any more bonuses.
  • Ratzkifal
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    As others pointed out, it's because in the lore, none of the races have resistances to shock damage and the game works in such a way that gaining resistance to anything also prevents you from getting that status effect applied to you through regular means.
    Argonians are immune to the diseased status effect, which is major defile but only applied by disease damage. They are not immune to major defile applied through other means.
    Bosmer are immune to the dot the poisoned effect applies etc.

    Since there is no shock resistant race, there is no immunity to the concussion effect.

    The Maormer would be the most likely to get that bonus should they ever become playable.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Maybe maomer?
    Dark elf imune toburning
    Nord are imune to chilled

    Eventual new race with maybe crit chance
    Edited by Dark_Lord_Kuro on August 25, 2019 5:35PM
  • dtsharples
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    Not until Maormer are playable.
    They should be immune to shock. And I want one to play.
  • Kolzki
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    This one wonders why shock damage causes concussion at all. It should be something that you get from being hit in the head really hard.
  • CambionDaemon
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    Shock damage should be a stun really, that and falling on the floor quivering.
  • Banana
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    What is orc immune to?

    Being good-looking

    And intelligent thoughts
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Without some way to have their wits dulled, who could stand to have Stuga chasing them around?
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