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Khajiit is severely underpowered
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xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭idk...my cat is brokenly op...but why am I complaining? ugh...BUFF KHAJIIT...ugh...NERF SORC!0 -
SirPilky✭✭✭Khajiit is one of the better races for DDs because of the crit damage passive, run thief instead of shadow and you'll be pleasantly surprised :-D
Khajiit have crit bonus to healing not damage anymore, sorry I was wrong they have crit damage i got confused about the the spell crit being removed or it used to be crit chance I think.
Yeah passives used to be weapon crit chance, health and stamina recovery.
Now it's crit damage and healing, and a little bonus to max stat and recovery of all 3 resources.1 -
lusshtgarel✭✭✭vesselwiththepestle wrote: »Khajiit is supposed to be a weak, non-competetive race.
I bet even if you run a Khajiit-favoring setup like Leviathan instead of Lokke etc. you'd still perform better if you'd wear the same on Orc or Dunmer.
Maybe that is why Khajiit is among recommended races for many stamina and magicka builds. One of the best damage dealers I know mained a Khajiit nightblade and now mains a Khajiit stamcro. I main a Khajiit healer necromancer and managed to grab some no-deaths and speedruns on her. Of course, you can choose an Orc or a Redguard for BiS stamina or Breton for magicka, but Khajiit performs well on both, much like Dunmer. Also, if one is a bad player, no racial passives are going to make them better.2 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭o.o yall really think khajiit is weak, damn.
I play a magicka NB khajiit and do just fine vs other classes, intact I have more burst.
15k+ assassin wills because of being a khajiit.0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭o.o yall really think khajiit is weak, damn.
I play a magicka NB khajiit and do just fine vs other classes, intact I have more burst.
15k+ assassin wills because of being a khajiit.
Except that you actually have less burst. Those 15k+ assassin wills would hit higher on Dunmer or Altmer (not that I’m particularly happy with their racial passives either).2 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »o.o yall really think khajiit is weak, damn.
I play a magicka NB khajiit and do just fine vs other classes, intact I have more burst.
15k+ assassin wills because of being a khajiit.
Except that you actually have less burst. Those 15k+ assassin wills would hit higher on Dunmer or Altmer (not that I’m particularly happy with their racial passives either).
I'm built around the crit bonus passive + CP tree + race against time, it actually doesn't hit harder on dark elf or other races... only difference is easier sustain.
I am built around being a khajiit and I've had alot of success.
Not many people seem to build around it.
Edited by Araxleon on August 19, 2019 10:09PM0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »o.o yall really think khajiit is weak, damn.
I play a magicka NB khajiit and do just fine vs other classes, intact I have more burst.
15k+ assassin wills because of being a khajiit.
Except that you actually have less burst. Those 15k+ assassin wills would hit higher on Dunmer or Altmer (not that I’m particularly happy with their racial passives either).
I'm built around the crit bonus passive + CP tree + race against time, it actually doesn't hit harder on dark elf or other races... only difference is easier sustain.
I am built around being a khajiit and I've had alot of success.
Not many people seem to build around it.
It does hit harder on other races, try it and you’ll see. Khajiit’s 10% crit dmg works out to about 5% higher crits (and only crits). Really it’s closer to 4.7% on a crit build, and may go up to around 5.3% if you don’t have much else invested in crit dmg. Altmer and Dunmer both have 258 spell damage (4-5% damage) and over 1k more Magicka (1.5-2% damage) than Khajiit, which results in close to 6% damage increase to ALL hits (crit and non) vs Khajiit’s 5% to only crits.
The only thing Khajiit has going for it is the small amount of sustain and off-stat resources. If you absolutely need these mixed bonuses then it may be worth the DPS loss.1 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »WrathOfInnos wrote: »o.o yall really think khajiit is weak, damn.
I play a magicka NB khajiit and do just fine vs other classes, intact I have more burst.
15k+ assassin wills because of being a khajiit.
Except that you actually have less burst. Those 15k+ assassin wills would hit higher on Dunmer or Altmer (not that I’m particularly happy with their racial passives either).
I'm built around the crit bonus passive + CP tree + race against time, it actually doesn't hit harder on dark elf or other races... only difference is easier sustain.
I am built around being a khajiit and I've had alot of success.
Not many people seem to build around it.
It does hit harder on other races, try it and you’ll see. Khajiit’s 10% crit dmg works out to about 5% higher crits (and only crits). Really it’s closer to 4.7% on a crit build, and may go up to around 5.3% if you don’t have much else invested in crit dmg. Altmer and Dunmer both have 258 spell damage (4-5% damage) and over 1k more Magicka (1.5-2% damage) than Khajiit, which results in close to 6% damage increase to ALL hits (crit and non) vs Khajiit’s 5% to only crits.
The only thing Khajiit has going for it is the small amount of sustain and off-stat resources. If you absolutely need these mixed bonuses then it may be worth the DPS loss.
I can see where you are coming from, I have only tested it based on combat and I've noticed notably higher damage on my khajiit with my skill set up, so maybe it's just that particular set up I'm using.
(I've switched back and forth breton to khajiit a few times)
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StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Milhouse likes Khajiit.
Don't be like Milhouse.
Khajiit don't look good in majority of the gear and costume sets as Bosmer do.
Looks over racial passives any day.
Edited by StormeReigns on August 20, 2019 12:37AM1 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well I’m playing a Breton stamblade lol my passives don’t help my damage and I still do very well.0 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wish they could just let us pick or morph our racial passives 🙏Edited by Deathlord92 on August 20, 2019 10:07AM0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I do believe that the only races that are heavily underperforming (compared to others) is Argonian & Wood Elf.0 -
FoulSnowpaw✭✭✭Argonian and Wood Elves are probably the most underpowered... good in pvp, but in pve not really.
Healing Done is useless because Maximum Health has been reduced so much. DPS have 11k health at base, 17k with food. Maybe ~18k with ebon and buffs but there's really not much to heal. So many other sources of healing done greatly makes this passive completely useless
Wood Elves need to roll on the floor to gain benefit from third passive which is a waste of stamina.
Khajiit is good if you have at least 70% Critical Chance to benefit from the decent 10% Critical Damage AND Healing perk. This turns out to be pretty OP in pvp when I play khajiit templar with that extra 10% crit buff.
Khajiit is a pretty well balanced class with all resource pools benefiting in maximum and recovery.
~875 to all pools is nice compared to some other races having only 1000 for one resource pool...0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FoulSnowpaw wrote: »Argonian and Wood Elves are probably the most underpowered... good in pvp, but in pve not really.
Healing Done is useless because Maximum Health has been reduced so much. DPS have 11k health at base, 17k with food. Maybe ~18k with ebon and buffs but there's really not much to heal. So many other sources of healing done greatly makes this passive completely useless
Wood Elves need to roll on the floor to gain benefit from third passive which is a waste of stamina.
Khajiit is good if you have at least 70% Critical Chance to benefit from the decent 10% Critical Damage AND Healing perk. This turns out to be pretty OP in pvp when I play khajiit templar with that extra 10% crit buff.
Khajiit is a pretty well balanced class with all resource pools benefiting in maximum and recovery.
~875 to all pools is nice compared to some other races having only 1000 for one resource pool...
There are no races with only 1000 of one resource pool. Every race with a single resource gets 2000 of that resource. The lowest resource pools outside Khajiit are Argonians, with 1000 Max Magicka and 1000 Max Health. IMO this is still superior to 825 tri-resource, but I also think Argonian Max Magicka should be increased to at least 1500 (mirroring Nord) or 2000 (like other Magicka races, mirroring Orc). The top resource pools are held by Imperials (2000 Health + 2000 Stam), Dunmer (1875 Mag + 1875 Stam, not always useful), and Orc (2000 Stam + 1000 Health).0 -
xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Long story short....convert the races into polymorphs and after selecting the racial passive progression you desire...select the skin you want it in.
Yay no more this race blah blah blaaaahs0