VaranisArano wrote: »

Not gonna happen. Crafting Bag and the associated inventory issues that happen without it is one of the main reasons people subscribe.

Why on earth would ZOS shoot themselves in the profits by devaluing the current Crafting Bag?

Because they are above using inventory extortion to get people to sub? Or maybe because they finally decided that annoying people into subbing with constantly filling up inventory is not how you build good will with the consumers especially new players that don't want to deal with that nonsense but also don't want feel pressured into paying 15 dollars a month for a game they don't know if they want to keep playing? I have suggest this already. craftbag limited at 200 just to free up room is not going to stop people from subbing. It gives them an idea of how nice the craftbag is so they'll want to buy the limited one, but it would be great for new players.

Lol another I want craft bag so give it to me and then watch the subscriptions drop , nope dont even zos are that stupid to do this

Tandor wrote: »

Some players just need to adopt a different approach to hoarding complete sets that will never be used, or massive multiple stacks of mats, etc.

Hey, it's an illness not a choice!!

What would be the point of this?

Nah 20 units per item is nothing, might as well not have it.
Also if you know how to manage your inventory, you dont need ESO+
Also use free ESO+ trials to fill up your crafting bag as much as you can.
Speaking from experience, havent subbed since 2 years now and still doing crafting writs and *** every day on 18 chars + 6 on my 2nd account.

fierackas wrote: »

No, pay up or shut up.

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I would love this. I would never sub again.

Nilarynpaw wrote: »

I don't think this would be fair with people who pay for the sub, while you just want free slots.
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This is not an issue. All you have to do is announce the change in advance. Since we now have 12 month subs, they need to announce it 12 months in advance so people can decide if they think the sub is still worth it.

Count me as one of those who will cancel the sub, since crafting bag and double bank are the only reasons I sub. The crowns with the sub are getting silly as I am up to about 29k crowns with nothing worth spending them on.

GarnetFire17 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Not gonna happen. Crafting Bag and the associated inventory issues that happen without it is one of the main reasons people subscribe.

Why on earth would ZOS shoot themselves in the profits by devaluing the current Crafting Bag?

Because they are above using inventory extortion to get people to sub? Or maybe because they finally decided that annoying people into subbing with constantly filling up inventory is not how you build good will with the consumers especially new players that don't want to deal with that nonsense but also don't want feel pressured into paying 15 dollars a month for a game they don't know if they want to keep playing? I have suggest this already. craftbag limited at 200 just to free up room is not going to stop people from subbing. It gives them an idea of how nice the craftbag is so they'll want to buy the limited one, but it would be great for new players.

Haha. Hahaha. Oh my. Such a sweet summer child.

You know the saying "Make a problem, then sell the solution"?

Sorry, ZOS is 100% using inventory extortation to push people to sub. Good will? No, ZOS is happy to get people paying for subs whether they "want to" or feel like they "need to." Good will doesn't drive players to give ZOS a steady stream of income the way the convenience of the crafting bag does.

That was a charming bit of naivety. ZOS is in no way going to devalue the main added value of their Crafting Bag out of the sheer goodness of their hearts to win the goodwill of their players when they can keep the value high and get the money from their subscribers.

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Nah 20 units per item is nothing, might as well not have it.
Also if you know how to manage your inventory, you dont need ESO+
Also use free ESO+ trials to fill up your crafting bag as much as you can.
Speaking from experience, havent subbed since 2 years now and still doing crafting writs and *** every day on 18 chars + 6 on my 2nd account.

I thought they meant 20 stacks.

Thing is, 20 units IS something. It allows you to autoloot without filling up your inventory immediately. It allows easy transfer of most mats to whichever character you use as a mule. It would remove a lot of hassle. It would even be enough for many style mats that accumulate very slow day-to-day.

The problem with mats is that there are so many different types that you can easily fill your inventory with one-ofs in 20 minutes. Just by having that limited crafting bag, you could hold on to all those provisioning mats until you get to town and use them all to create whatever for leveling.

As someone who used mules for mats pre-crafting bag and who decide to just not play because switching characters to manage inventory is an unenjoyable waste of limited gaming time, I can see plenty of value in even the very limited crafting bag.

NO.

I am being selfish. I make my gold from players buying my mats. If they had ESO+ like bag they could harvest there own.

SOOOO No, NO, NO.

The biggest problem with crown store & ESO+ is basically a limited option and lack of choice.

The first think I would like to say is - I get it. Game has to make money. But what if some players out there simply buy all chapters and DLCs that come out ? They also support the game. They dont have ESO+ , although they support the game, their gameplay experience is worse. Should this even be a thing ??

You see, it is not about "money" (you are poor I am rich so F you etc.) It is about convenience. Some ppl like subscription models, others likes to pay up front. It is a matter of taste & preferences. Forcing ppl to do what is not convenient for them is never good for business. The point is - if some one does not like subscription model there is no force in the world to make them use superscription model.

Making a problem and then selling a solution for it is not the way to go imho. And just be clear, for many craft bag is that solution and playing without it makes a lot of basic aspect of the game unnecessary hard / tedious. It is a deliberate design. Also I would like to point out that - situation here is similar as with "console fanboys" wars. One camp bought product Y so they will say anything to defend to justify their purchase decision.

What I would like to see is "an option". And option so I could have a substitute / ersatz / makeshift / stopgap (whatever you call it) of something that ESO+ have but available as a account upgrade. I do realize that it will never be as good as "Premium account" access - so I dont even ask for something that is equal.

There are 2 particular things I would like to see:

- Bank Space upgrade after you reach 240 slots:
It could be sold in a Crown Store as an upgrade for crowns (Yes, I know best way would be to buy it for gold or just grind but, - the game has to make money). That way, those who dont find subscription models attractive, could buy some bank upgrades, So their gameplay experience won't be hindered and they will spend more money on the game - money that they would not spend otherwise.

- House upgrade tokes:
Simply put, so you could have more furnitures in your house. Crown Store houses are ridiculously expensive, and imho they should have it included in a 1st place. I mean think of it. How many people are buying hoses for crowns ? And how would that look like if they will have more furnishing slots if bought for crowns ? You see where I am going. The game would simple make more money that way.

Aurelle1 wrote: »

Ridiculous poll. Totally biased, no choice apart from yes.

I completely agree.