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vMA Drops ~ lol?

Skullderic
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To start ill say this; I @#$%'n hate doing vMA, Its sloppy & Buggy as all get out~
But for the Event I I let my soul be drain a lot!
I lost count on the total runs, around 40 or so.
Double drops, 80 MA weapons~ 1 x Lightning staff & No Daggers
I have a silly amount of Resto, Ice tooth pick tho.
Srsly tho, wth is the drop rate in there for daggers or really any DW weapon?
Gert Soem!!
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Skullderic wrote: »
    To start ill say this; I @#$%'n hate doing vMA, Its sloppy & Buggy as all get out~
    But for the Event I I let my soul be drain a lot!
    I lost count on the total runs, around 40 or so.
    Double drops, 80 MA weapons~ 1 x Lightning staff & No Daggers
    I have a silly amount of Resto, Ice tooth pick tho.
    Srsly tho, wth is the drop rate in there for daggers or really any DW weapon?

    I made ~15 runs, my best drop was sword+mace for flurry :D worst possible combo, but at least I may practice rotation with it :D and this is first DW and only DW drop in all runs I ever made... now I start to believe stories how people can't get inferno in 50+ runs...
  • StormChaser3000
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    Zero if you want them, or 3 sets drop out of 12 runs for me since I didn't want them on my petsorc...

    Edit: forgot to add that out of 6 DW dropped weapons, 3 are daggers.
    Edited by StormChaser3000 on August 19, 2019 2:45PM
  • Donny_Vito
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    Just the old RNG at it again. I've gotten quite a few Daggers so far. But when it comes to the style pages, I have gotten the Greatsword one like 20 times so far. It's ridiculous. They sell pretty easy, but I was hoping to learn them all from loot.
  • aLi3nZ
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    well I am a sorc and got light staff, inferno staff and restro staff. More then 1 of them. A few runs with double drop plus then gold maelstrom weapons in the mail for each run. So thats 3 lots of weapons per run. Anyway, malestrom staff was better when they added 189 spell damage, now I never use them. Sad master staff no longer adds 2k magika as well but still use that one for nice destro clench reduction + damage increase.
  • Jerrold
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    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.
  • Donny_Vito
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    Jerrold wrote: »
    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.

    Congrats. Soon you'll leave vMA with more Soul Gems than you started with.
  • aLi3nZ
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    Jerrold wrote: »
    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.

    Nice, you should go for the flawless run, you can use the sigils for that btw, just reduces your score.
  • rotaugen454
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    Jerrold wrote: »
    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.

    You can go through zero souls gems by resurrecting at shrine. It puts you nearby. You ride swiftly inside after repairs at Tutor Reparius and jump back where you were.
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  • Kolzki
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    How many elemental succession inferno staves did you get? I need to know that they exist!
  • mocap
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    did vma only once and got lightning staff (and great sword, that was last year event). So yes, RNGesus )
  • Berserkerkitten
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    And here I'm sitting on a legendary nirnhoned vMA dagger I got in the mail last week without even making it to the top 100 due to that weird glitch.
    Nobody cares about your endless list of terribly-named characters.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Jerrold wrote: »
    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.

    You can go through zero souls gems by resurrecting at shrine. It puts you nearby. You ride swiftly inside after repairs at Tutor Reparius and jump back where you were.

    This is always the way to go. You probably spend as much time in ghost form when using a soul gem as time spent riding back to portal if you use wayshrine.
  • Skullderic
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    How many elemental succession inferno staves did you get? I need to know that they exist!

    Zero~ Not any Succession destro staff at all. >.>
    Gert Soem!!
  • Reverb
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    RNG is a strange thing. I hadn’t been in vma for over a year because after countless runs and at least a dozen leaderboard rewards I had never gotten a single bow or staff. Any staff. You need maelstrom shields or mauls I’m your guy. I’ve probably deconned at least 25 of each.

    But I decided to give it a try during double drops this week. I got 4 bows and 4 lightning staves, and two ice staves (also a few shields, a few mauls and a greatsword). One DW set, dagger and mace.

    Still no resto or flame staff, but yah. RNG is a strange thing.
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  • phuein
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    Their RNG system is broken. It's just entirely random, without limits to ensure reasonable results for players, to keep the game fun and reasonable.

    It's far from being the only broken major system in the game. Looks like at least for the style pages you can just buy them for gold, from playing the game in other ways.
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  • mairwen85
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    In b4 stat slappers mention you only need 40 runs to get the weapon you want and press a single dataset as undeniable proof. 'your post is purely anecdotal', 'calling bs on your experience', blah, blah ad nauseum 🤮
    Edited by mairwen85 on August 19, 2019 5:06PM
  • DoonerSeraph
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    I would seriously give you my daggers and axes if I could, obviously I was not looking for them, but a staff :D
    I got it on my last run 😣
  • ThePlayer
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    14 run -> 28 loot + 3 special loot = 3 axe, 1 dagger, 3 inferno staff, 4 bow, 1 elemental succession inferno staff + others stuff.

    P.S.
    This double reward should be like Always coz i not like run it otherwise;
    The special reward give me only craps loot;
    I did with 10 different DDs or was too boring for me.
    Edited by ThePlayer on August 19, 2019 5:49PM
  • DR4GONFL1
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    My brother plays a stamblade and is now over 60 runs (including several double drop event runs)

    (almost 40 staves)

    9 inferno staves
    12 lightning staves
    8 Restro staves
    9 Ice Staves
    4 Bows
    9-10 Swords
    8 Greatswords
    a ton of mauls, shields and maces

    What he needs:
    3 daggers
    2 axes (None Flurry) He needs the flurry set axe


    Now I main a MagSorc / Pet Sorc:

    9 daggers
    6 axes
    6 shields
    10 mauls
    9 maces
    6 bows
    7 battle axes

    2 Inferno (just got second one and 3rd lightning in my last double drop run)
    3 lightning
    2 Restro

    Its pretty obvious your main character is some how used to make the RNG worse keeping you grinding maybe attribute pts I'm not sure but all of a sudden with the updated coming axes and daggers are BIS and they are the fewest dropped items for him. My main needs staves and they have been the fewest drops so thats not just RNG.
  • mairwen85
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    DR4GONFL1 wrote: »
    My brother plays a stamblade and is now over 60 runs (including several double drop event runs)

    (almost 40 staves)

    9 inferno staves
    12 lightning staves
    8 Restro staves
    9 Ice Staves
    4 Bows
    9-10 Swords
    8 Greatswords
    a ton of mauls, shields and maces

    What he needs:
    3 daggers
    2 axes (None Flurry) He needs the flurry set axe


    Now I main a MagSorc / Pet Sorc:

    9 daggers
    6 axes
    6 shields
    10 mauls
    9 maces
    6 bows
    7 battle axes

    2 Inferno (just got second one and 3rd lightning in my last double drop run)
    3 lightning
    2 Restro

    Its pretty obvious your main character is some how used to make the RNG worse keeping you grinding maybe attribute pts I'm not sure but all of a sudden with the updated coming axes and daggers are BIS and they are the fewest dropped items for him. My main needs staves and they have been the fewest drops so thats not just RNG.

    It is though. It is just rng. What you're showing is a case of numbers don't lie unless they do. :wink:

    What doesn't happen is that your chances improve every run as if prior runs reductively contribute. You have exactly the same probability per run. Sometimes it's favorable, often times it isn't. You are wanting that one thing in a sea of things you don't want. It will always feel like the tide is against you... Because it is.

    The only way to give yourself the illusion that you are beating rng is to have several characters that all need something from vma. Your success rate is higher the more of the sh!t you can actually make use of.
    Edited by mairwen85 on August 19, 2019 5:32PM
  • therift
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    Jerrold wrote: »
    This event was my first time doing vma and I went through about 100+ soul gems trying to get through the first time then this last weekend I was getting through with about 4-5 deaths per run, I got 3 bows plus a gold one in the mail, 4 infernos, dagger and sword plus a bunch of ice staves and a resto staff.

    Congrats!

    I wish I started earlier. I had been stalled on Stage 5 for months. I ran out of Event time, so no double drops for me, but I'll get through it soon. ;)
  • JasmineMcCoy
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    mairwen85 wrote: »

    The only way to give yourself the illusion that you are beating rng is to have several characters that all need something from vma. Your success rate is higher the more of the sh!t you can actually make use of.

    That works only till the moment you have one weapon left to farm. Then you get 3x, 4x of those you already got and that one never does. :tongue:
  • mairwen85
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    mairwen85 wrote: »

    The only way to give yourself the illusion that you are beating rng is to have several characters that all need something from vma. Your success rate is higher the more of the sh!t you can actually make use of.

    That works only till the moment you have one weapon left to farm. Then you get 3x, 4x of those you already got and that one never does. :tongue:

    Shhh! Don't ruin my moment.

    Of course the solution is simple. Roll a few more chars.
  • kojou
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the game skews drops on Magicka characters to stamina weapons and vice versa. I also think the game skews toward less popular weapons.

    I got pretty lucky this week except I did not get a cruel flurry axe.

    I ran my magicka Templar for the entire event and got 2 CF maces, 2 CF swords, 2 CF daggers, 1 bow, 2 lightning staves, 1 flame staff, 1 resto staff, a bunch of various 2 handed weapons and no 1h and shield.

    Its almost like my magicka templar was skewed away from Magicka and Support weapons. Not that I minded since I was going for Cruel Flurry, but I thought it was interesting.
    Playing since beta...
  • JasmineMcCoy
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    kojou wrote: »
    I wouldn't be surprised if the game skews drops on Magicka characters to stamina weapons and vice versa. I also think the game skews toward less popular weapons.

    I got pretty lucky this week except I did not get a cruel flurry axe.

    I ran my magicka Templar for the entire event and got 2 CF maces, 2 CF swords, 2 CF daggers, 1 bow, 2 lightning staves, 1 flame staff, 1 resto staff, a bunch of various 2 handed weapons and no 1h and shield.

    Its almost like my magicka templar was skewed away from Magicka and Support weapons. Not that I minded since I was going for Cruel Flurry, but I thought it was interesting.

    Isn't that just because there are only 5 staves and they are 2-handed? You could get 4 sta 1-h in one run, but only 2 staves max.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Skullderic wrote: »
    To start ill say this; I @#$%'n hate doing vMA, Its sloppy & Buggy as all get out~
    But for the Event I I let my soul be drain a lot!
    I lost count on the total runs, around 40 or so.
    Double drops, 80 MA weapons~ 1 x Lightning staff & No Daggers
    I have a silly amount of Resto, Ice tooth pick tho.
    Srsly tho, wth is the drop rate in there for daggers or really any DW weapon?

    Ran Mag sorc, magplar, mag nb, stam warden, stam necro, stam Dk. Drops are:

    1. 1 x Dagger
    2. 18 x Restro
    3. 7 x 1h and shield
    4. 5 x 2H Great Sword
    5. 6 x Battle Axe
    6. 4 x Maul
    7. 6 x Inferno
    8. 4 x Lighting
    9. 8 x Axe
    10. 15 x Mace
    11. 6 x Bow
    12. 12 x Sword

    Restro and 1H maces simply rained on me!

    Got 5 Flawless through (3 Mag + 2 Stam)
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 19, 2019 6:13PM
  • kojou
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    kojou wrote: »
    I wouldn't be surprised if the game skews drops on Magicka characters to stamina weapons and vice versa. I also think the game skews toward less popular weapons.

    I got pretty lucky this week except I did not get a cruel flurry axe.

    I ran my magicka Templar for the entire event and got 2 CF maces, 2 CF swords, 2 CF daggers, 1 bow, 2 lightning staves, 1 flame staff, 1 resto staff, a bunch of various 2 handed weapons and no 1h and shield.

    Its almost like my magicka templar was skewed away from Magicka and Support weapons. Not that I minded since I was going for Cruel Flurry, but I thought it was interesting.

    Isn't that just because there are only 5 staves and they are 2-handed? You could get 4 sta 1-h in one run, but only 2 staves max.

    1 DW Pair is considered 1 drop. From my understanding, Drop rate is *supposed* to be even for each set name, then you have a second "roll of the die" for what weapon(s) in that set you get, and another roll for trait.

    The sample size of my runs is too small to make any real inferences. I was commenting more on how it felt for my runs this week.
    Playing since beta...
  • Gariele
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    Think I did about 30-35 runs. I lost count. 4 infernos, 4 bows, tons of lightning, daggers, axes.

    Last year all I ever got was S/B. This year RNG was kind to me. Even picked up flawless along the way
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  • BooPerScOOper
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    I really feel for you guy's.... Really I do..
    I did 1 run this whole event. I have more than enough weps for all 14 characters.

    1 = dagger, axe, Inferno
  •  Raiborn
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    Can't speak to RNG even though there are times I do feel the same where something is amiss. I got the bow I wanted :)
    I have an extra dagger style page, and I'm WTT for Battle Axe.
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