GrimTheReaper45 wrote: »

Billdor wrote: »

valkyrie93 wrote: »

Used the same rotation for ages. haven’t really kept up to date with the changes and I went on holiday for 2 weeks and come back to find out my main passive heal is completely useless to me now. Major sorcery needs to be added to crit surge.

So now i’m slotting degeneration for Major Sorcery, as it’s been buffed for dmg too but what can i use as a passive heal now? nothing lol, i have no choice but to use the matriarch for any heal at all. oh and burn through pots.

I also loved to use shock clench to stun adds in order to bide time, this helped me massively but that’s been taken away too. Using reach now.

I have practiced and practiced with these bars to get where I am in vMA and was hoping to get flawless pretty soon since I’m now able to do each stage without dying, just not in one run yet. Now i feel like two vital tools, or at least what i prefer, have been taken away and i’m having to lvl up non class skills i never cared about before. Feel like i’ve been set 5 steps back

This isn’t fun. It’s demotivating

Don’t really know what else to say

This is 100% your fault. No one elses, this is what you have to say.

How is zos's dumb nerfs their fault? Everyone on this dumb asf forum tells players to git gud and l2p so players work at it and try to get good and when zos makes stupid asf decisions that completely change whatever you were learning to play we get this "its your fault" bs

thank you, couldn't have said it better myself. it's not like i'm not gonna try to adapt, but i think it's understandable if players are a bit pissed when the changes seem to be unnecessary

Billdor wrote: »

valkyrie93 wrote: »

Used the same rotation for ages. haven’t really kept up to date with the changes and I went on holiday for 2 weeks and come back to find out my main passive heal is completely useless to me now. Major sorcery needs to be added to crit surge.

So now i’m slotting degeneration for Major Sorcery, as it’s been buffed for dmg too but what can i use as a passive heal now? nothing lol, i have no choice but to use the matriarch for any heal at all. oh and burn through pots.

I also loved to use shock clench to stun adds in order to bide time, this helped me massively but that’s been taken away too. Using reach now.

I have practiced and practiced with these bars to get where I am in vMA and was hoping to get flawless pretty soon since I’m now able to do each stage without dying, just not in one run yet. Now i feel like two vital tools, or at least what i prefer, have been taken away and i’m having to lvl up non class skills i never cared about before. Feel like i’ve been set 5 steps back

This isn’t fun. It’s demotivating

Don’t really know what else to say

This is 100% your fault. No one elses, this is what you have to say.

It may have been my fault that I used the same skills religiously for a long time. But all I can say to that is - why not?
It worked for me and I got better with it in a particular scenario (in this case vma) why would I change it?
And it's my fault that I didn't keep up to date with the upcoming changes.. but at the end of the day, if i didn't have a forum account, didn't check the eso website, didn't click anything in the launcher and ONLY saw information that was in the game when i actually logged in, I would've been even more out of the loop. It's a game and not a job. There are people who play for hours and never once looked at the forums or patch notes. What about those players? Changes this drastic are unnecessary imo.

Since I do usually keep up with eso news before it hits, maybe i could have prepared better, or at least mentally prepared myself for what was to come. I have been preoccupied with other stuff the last few weeks so didn't. So yeah, my fault i guess

What's not my fault is nerfs that are completely out of my control

Aurelle1 wrote: »

valkyrie93 wrote: »

Heatnix90 wrote: »

Crit surge + Spell Power potions. 50 potions is enough for 1 run.

was gonna say i can't slot crit surge because i wouldn't have msorcery but I might just do this. thanks

Hope you have plenty of gold reserves then, whether you make your own or buy them ^^

I always splash out on pots, or my bf crafts them for me for a discounted price :P

rotaugen454 wrote: »

I’ve done VMA several times. My MagSorc farming build got killed. I’ve run with two pets, one pet, no pets and could get it done. Now, I can’t finish stage 9 and I know the mechanics. I’m switching to a MagPlar and first time in, nearly finished through stage 6 then ran out of time. This might become my replacement farming build.

Would you mind sharing your build? Magplar is my main, but I haven't been playing nearly as long as most people, so I'm always looking for more info. I have not tried vMA yet.

I've had some stupid deaths in round 6 too but again, done with no death before and know the mechanics so they're literally just stupid deaths. Saying the patch isn't a problem is like saying I never benefited from the Passive surge heal

Well the patch changed a lot but IMO it didn´t really make the character weaker. Look at the other changes; you can use crit surge for better heals and you still get major sorcery from entropy which was boosted. You can pre-buff before rounds and in the short warp-in lulls during the rounds. Soul trap isn´t total crap anymore. The elemental succession set looks awesome (I haven´t tried it, just going by patch notes).

Also IMO the final push to finishing vMA easily is to know exactly what comes in the difficult rounds and how to kill them.

Does the titan hit hard? I was told to use the defense sigil with him when I started doing vMA, so not sure I ever did it without. I always thought it was mainly to kill it faster.

The problem is that if you don´t kill him fast you get titan + dremora adds + wall of fire simultaneously, and even if you instantly break a cc then, the slight delay can kill you. Also it is hard to see what´s going on with the giant titan polygon in the way, meaning a dremora can channel their special attack while you (by which I mean I) miss the interrupt.

With sigils it should be easy enough, just take the offensive one and burst him, then take the defensive on as the dremora warp in.

Yes, hated patch came out but is it really that much of a nerf for vma besides trap change?

I'm not a high end player by any means and yet 2/2 runs this patch was flawless on magsorc, no great score due to breaks for irl stuff but still not much changes in performance.
Matriarch is not a truck now but passives, distraction, damage and heal are still there, crit surge heals even better, with correct cp's shield mitigation is still great and aoe's still kill all the trash as fast as before at least on m sorc. Iceheart still here for people that fear to die or farming, most things coming from knowing the arenas and this is unpatchable.

I'm still quite salty about loss of major sorcery as liked to go cheap but it's not an end of the world for sure.