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Dot nerfing Monday?
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labambao✭✭✭✭
Then zos can add an item to clown store, that reduce dot damage to you by 20%.
But buy it can only that guys who was complaining at forum about dis
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE23 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.Edited by Vapirko on August 19, 2019 8:24AM19 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
Agreed.4 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
lol. Don't go nerfing a staple skill of Templar's now that the meta has become dots.16 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.9 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Of course they are absurd in solo/smallscale PVP, but I'm against nerfing their damage, and I doubt devs would do that cause those damage standards are basement of all their rebalance. They simply must make them harder to apply, i.e. lower range, + change instant ray for projectile, so medium can roll-dodge them reliably and heavy will be already in gap closer range. Projectile +20-22m range and everything will be fine.
But most probably they won't do this right now, at best there will be some buffs to purge, or nothing will be changed at all, one week is too small time to say how meta will settle down. And there are ton of other issues like overload, eclipse being hard counter, bow ulti desync and so on1 -
TriangularChicken✭✭✭✭
we can also add an item to the crown store that one shots players if that helps you win against better enemies. more power to noobs yey.4 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your posts consistently prove that. Entropy on my SB mag DK defensive bar with 35k mag and 1900 spell damage has a 21k tooltip. Rending slashes on my Stamplar with 3.9k wpn damage and 36k stamina has a slightly lower tooltip. If that’s your definition of balanced then we can’t even have a conversation.
“Adapt” is what people say when they’re desperately clutching onto the OP skill that’s keeping them relevant and they want to try and downplay people who don’t agree with them.28 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I swear, none of you people are going to be happy with anything until we're whacking each other and NPCs with wet spaghetti
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jainiadral wrote: »I swear, none of you people are going to be happy with anything until we're whacking each other and NPCs with wet spaghetti
Just as long as that wet spaghetti doesn’t have a 30k tooltip.4 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jainiadral wrote: »I swear, none of you people are going to be happy with anything until we're whacking each other and NPCs with wet spaghetti
Just as long as that wet spaghetti doesn’t have a 30k tooltip.
Probably a .0000001K tooltip and grody red smears.3 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your posts consistently prove that. Entropy on my SB mag DK defensive bar with 35k mag and 1900 spell damage has a 21k tooltip. Rending slashes on my Stamplar with 3.9k wpn damage and 36k stamina has a slightly lower tooltip. If that’s your definition of balanced then we can’t even have a conversation.
“Adapt” is what people say when they’re desperately clutching onto the OP skill that’s keeping them relevant and they want to try and downplay people who don’t agree with them.
Yeah an vigor or rapid regen have the same tooltip. Plus that's over 10 seconds, halved by battle spirit, and then subject to resistances. If you can't throw up a damage shield, purge, or heal in that time, then you're bad. Also efficient purge is only 4k magicka, so don't tell me as a stam you can't run it. Stop ranting and raving on the forums and just adjust your build.
EDIT: I say Adapt because you're the type of person that is desperately clutching onto the past burst damage build metas that were in no way balanced.Edited by Elusiin on August 19, 2019 8:40AM9 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
lol. Don't go nerfing a staple skill of Templar's now that the meta has become dots.
Yeah except by the end of the month the meta will be Templars, not DOTs.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE3 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
lol. Don't go nerfing a staple skill of Templar's now that the meta has become dots.
Yeah except by the end of the month the meta will be Templars, not DOTs.
I disagree. But nevertheless, don't blame Templars for surviving how they've always survived. Blame the dots.8 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
lol. Don't go nerfing a staple skill of Templar's now that the meta has become dots.
Yeah except by the end of the month the meta will be Templars, not DOTs.
I don't know, I feel like you can run purge on any class and be just as effective. Hopefully there's more diversity now that damage types are on a more even playing field. I'm playing magden atm.4 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your posts consistently prove that. Entropy on my SB mag DK defensive bar with 35k mag and 1900 spell damage has a 21k tooltip. Rending slashes on my Stamplar with 3.9k wpn damage and 36k stamina has a slightly lower tooltip. If that’s your definition of balanced then we can’t even have a conversation.
“Adapt” is what people say when they’re desperately clutching onto the OP skill that’s keeping them relevant and they want to try and downplay people who don’t agree with them.
Yeah an vigor or rapid regen have the same tooltip. Plus that's over 10 seconds, halved by battle spirit, and then subject to resistances. If you can't throw up a damage shield, purge, or heal in that time, then you're bad. Also efficient purge is only 4k magicka, so don't tell me as a stam you can't run it. Stop ranting and raving on the forums and just adjust your build.
EDIT: I say Adapt because you're the type of person that is desperately clutching onto the past burst damage build metas that were in no way balanced.
Why you edited out that you play magden? why all this posts about meta? just say plainly, "I am magden, I have free spammable purge which also heals me and generates ultimate and i have wonderful powerful dot which works great together with entropy and soul trap"7 -
SilverPaws✭✭✭✭✭Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your posts consistently prove that. Entropy on my SB mag DK defensive bar with 35k mag and 1900 spell damage has a 21k tooltip. Rending slashes on my Stamplar with 3.9k wpn damage and 36k stamina has a slightly lower tooltip. If that’s your definition of balanced then we can’t even have a conversation.
“Adapt” is what people say when they’re desperately clutching onto the OP skill that’s keeping them relevant and they want to try and downplay people who don’t agree with them.
Yeah an vigor or rapid regen have the same tooltip. Plus that's over 10 seconds, halved by battle spirit, and then subject to resistances. If you can't throw up a damage shield, purge, or heal in that time, then you're bad. Also efficient purge is only 4k magicka, so don't tell me as a stam you can't run it. Stop ranting and raving on the forums and just adjust your build.
EDIT: I say Adapt because you're the type of person that is desperately clutching onto the past burst damage build metas that were in no way balanced.
By this you just proved that you have no idea what you talk about
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »Unlikely. Sload’s was nerfed quickly but it was a collective outcry from the entire community. Unfortunately a lot of casuals are happy with the ease of play in this dot meta. I actually wonder if we will see more movement in this direction. What I find comical is that all the people who bitched and complained about getting 1vXd because of the so called “meta” builds are now perfectly fine crutching off this new meta. It’s really and truly astounding how many people would rather blame their short comings on sets and then so readily jump to the defense of the cheesiest changes we’ve seen yet. It’s pathetic really.
My hope is that some of the theory crafters and hardcore players come up with some really OP bs dot builds and just start recking people with them and then the casuals will eventually start complaining as well.
It's not a new meta because you can counter it easily, aka it's not broken. Adapt.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your posts consistently prove that. Entropy on my SB mag DK defensive bar with 35k mag and 1900 spell damage has a 21k tooltip. Rending slashes on my Stamplar with 3.9k wpn damage and 36k stamina has a slightly lower tooltip. If that’s your definition of balanced then we can’t even have a conversation.
“Adapt” is what people say when they’re desperately clutching onto the OP skill that’s keeping them relevant and they want to try and downplay people who don’t agree with them.
Yeah an vigor or rapid regen have the same tooltip. Plus that's over 10 seconds, halved by battle spirit, and then subject to resistances. If you can't throw up a damage shield, purge, or heal in that time, then you're bad. Also efficient purge is only 4k magicka, so don't tell me as a stam you can't run it. Stop ranting and raving on the forums and just adjust your build.
EDIT: I say Adapt because you're the type of person that is desperately clutching onto the past burst damage build metas that were in no way balanced.
By this you just proved that you have no idea what you talk about
It’s not even worth arguing with people like this. Idk why I let myself get sucked in.
@Elusiin I have adjusted my build mate. And what you’re getting wrong is you think I’m having a tough time and that’s why I’m in here asking for balance. That’s where you’re wrong. I’m ripping players to shreds with the new dots on both mag and stam toons and I’m here asking for balance because I know that’s bs. Do you know what happens if I hit someone with fossilize while entropy and soul trap are ticking? God forbid they ran outta stam or break free lags lol. Or do you have any idea what biting jabs can do alongside soul trap and DBoS with 50% crit? My PoL is hitting like a *** truck. It’s a joke. I’m not asking for balance because I can’t deal with it, I’m asking for balance because it’s *** ez mode.Edited by Vapirko on August 19, 2019 9:12AM6 -
Bergzorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
lol. Don't go nerfing a staple skill of Templar's now that the meta has become dots.
Yeah except by the end of the month the meta will be Templars, not DOTs.
I don't know, I feel like you can run purge on any class and be just as effective. Hopefully there's more diversity now that damage types are on a more even playing field. I'm playing magden atm.
Purge is not sustainable or useful even on magica classes. Besides the resources, it takes one global cooldown to remove two negative effects. Now take a look at the number and frequency of debuffs applied to you during an average (open world) PvP fight. It's only good if you follow the mindset that nobody should survive when outnumbered.
Edit: Ungrouped perspective. The skill was kind of useful a few years ago when you were at least able able to purge the siege DOTs from your fellow 'solo' players.Edited by Bergzorn on August 19, 2019 9:40AMno CP PvP PC/EU
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Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Emma_Overload wrote: »DOTs are fine.
What needs to be nerfed is Cloak and Purge. Nightblades and Templars should have to suffer DOTs like the rest of us!
Dont forget necro free purge...0 -
HowlKimchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Facefister wrote: »Dots isn't the issue, the non-stop homogenizing of the classes is.
louder for the people at the back5 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So imo, dots rule pvp and pve, they are way overtuned vs anything else right now. There is no longer "play as you want" (if you also wanna be viable). You either play with multiple dots or youre just not gonna have have any fun. This needs to change.
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