Damage over Time: Any skill or effect that does not deliver the entire amount of damage immediately.

"And if those 2 are direct damage and not dot - is the correct wording that every time it says "will do damage every x second" its direct damage but when it says "will do damage over x seconds" its a dot?"

These are alternate ways to deliver that damage over a period of time.

The former delivers damage in discrete ticks at specific intervals, such as every second, every two seconds, or sometimes every half second. These skills/effects permit damage mitigation counterplay, such as the use of Purge, to void some or all of the potential damage.

The latter is the same as the former but delivers the damage at a default schedule of one tick per second and usually can not be mitigated by cleanse or purge, I believe.

I wish someday we would have indicators, like Path of Exile does

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Damage over Time: Any skill or effect that does not deliver the entire amount of damage immediately.

"And if those 2 are direct damage and not dot - is the correct wording that every time it says "will do damage every x second" its direct damage but when it says "will do damage over x seconds" its a dot?"

These are alternate ways to deliver that damage over a period of time.

The former delivers damage in discrete ticks at specific intervals, such as every second, every two seconds, or sometimes every half second. These skills/effects permit damage mitigation counterplay, such as the use of Purge, to void some or all of the potential damage.

The latter is the same as the former but delivers the damage at a default schedule of one tick per second and usually can not be mitigated by cleanse or purge, I believe.

Waht confuses me is when they suddenly switch up the rule - because for example the sorcs hurricane is worded the same way X Damage every X second for X second - but this one is a dot and not direct damage

Hurricane is an Area of Effect that deals damage. It is centered on the caster (other AoEs are centered on a targeted ground location). The damage is only applied when entering the area in which the effect is active. Since Hurricane is centered on the caster, the caster may move the AoE around at will. The damage formula you quoted is the amount of damage per tick, the interval of the ticks, and the duration of the AoE.

DoTs differ from AoEs in that they are applied to the target.

therift wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

therift wrote: »

Damage over Time: Any skill or effect that does not deliver the entire amount of damage immediately.

"And if those 2 are direct damage and not dot - is the correct wording that every time it says "will do damage every x second" its direct damage but when it says "will do damage over x seconds" its a dot?"

These are alternate ways to deliver that damage over a period of time.

The former delivers damage in discrete ticks at specific intervals, such as every second, every two seconds, or sometimes every half second. These skills/effects permit damage mitigation counterplay, such as the use of Purge, to void some or all of the potential damage.

The latter is the same as the former but delivers the damage at a default schedule of one tick per second and usually can not be mitigated by cleanse or purge, I believe.

Waht confuses me is when they suddenly switch up the rule - because for example the sorcs hurricane is worded the same way X Damage every X second for X second - but this one is a dot and not direct damage

Hurricane is an Area of Effect that deals damage. It is centered on the caster (other AoEs are centered on a targeted ground location). The damage is only applied when entering the area in which the effect is active. Since Hurricane is centered on the caster, the caster may move the AoE around at will. The damage formula you quoted is the amount of damage per tick, the interval of the ticks, and the duration of the AoE.

DoTs differ from AoEs in that they are applied to the target.

i am basically asking with regards to

a.) gear sets thar proc from dots
b.) thaumaturge

but i guess the only thing you can do is test it... i have similar issues with the expression "melee danage" and proc effects... for example templar jabs not being considered a melee skill (because obviously a ranged skill????).

its just confusing and annoying. What they should do is define and show the categories each skill belongs to in the tooltip (for example with little icons) LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME / MMO EVER??????

dot or direct
melee or ranged
target or aoe
etc....

combat metrics and a bunch of time is the only way that you will get the answers you seek.

Some skills count the first hit as direct and the subsequent hits as the DOT component (jabs, flurry). This gets even more confusing with the champion system, which is why combat metrics + constellations are a huge part of any theory crafting that should be taken serious.

"Easiest" is to load up your character naked and then go to a dummy with combat metrics and do a 30 second parse. Bring that into constellations and you will get an idea.

SImply use one skill after the other and you will then determine the source of damage and type of attack they are.

Good luck at playing =^-^=

In the combat options you can also choose to show outgoing damage vs damage over time so that’s might help to give you some direct indication. But some skills apply as both or have a direct portion and a dot portion.

I think what can make it more confusing is that some skills can have both a direct damage component and a dot component. I think Templar jabs are like this, where most of the attack is considered dot damage, but the first or the last strike is direct (i forget which). I know shard used to be that way where the initial hit was direct damage, then the rest was dot. Maybe they changed this as I have not played my templar in a while.

I really wish they would clearly mark this information in the skills information screen and it would also be super helpful if it would also tell which cp's affect it as well. Not everyone can use combat metrics. PS4/Xbox