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Should ZOS release a melee magicka weapon?
sly007
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I think It is long overdue. Unleash the melee magicka weapon.
Should ZOS release a melee magicka weapon? 184 votes
Yes
83%
153 votes
No
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesNot sure what they’re waiting for to release the 1-hander&rune line."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power15 -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes[chanting] new things new things new things new things new things new things [chanting]skingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoReasoning please. Explain the benefit, requirement, and what you would propose as a curated skill line.
I can’t see any immediate reason why we need one. If you want a close range weapon, there are melee (stamina) weapons. If you’re thinking a spellsword type build, maybe propose a class or means to make hybrids viable.1 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesIt's well overdue.
I can understand the Stamina bias, 4 weapon lines with 4 sub classes all having different perks, vs 1 weapon line with 3 sub classes all having different perks, if we were to have Spell Crafting.
Well now we don't. The game needs to be balanced around that fact, with melee magicka weapons or until Spell Crafting is introduced, which I believe will never happen.
Even worse is that Zos seems determined to shoe horn magicka builds into having to use a Resto Staff, leaving offensive builds with just 1 offensive weapon bar or bust.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?6 -
Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesThat would require them to rework the CP system so that hybrids are actually viable, which they won't do. And if they do? They'll *** it up royally as per the norm.1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesThat would require them to rework the CP system so that hybrids are actually viable, which they won't do. And if they do? They'll *** it up royally as per the norm.
They probably won't because those already using hybrids would get a massive buff...No one would seriously use pure builds anymore (though I don't think that is a bad thing, I can imagine the forum whine).0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoYeah magicka already has all the class skills, while stam gets along with a few garbage weapon line skills but yeah let’s give them more lol.3 -
LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesStamina DPS has an increasing number of class skills (a few more wouldn't hurt, stam sorc) FG skill line, 3 weapon skill lines (sns not included), Werewolf and can also use Psijic skills.
Magicka has a few more class skills, Mage's Guild, Vampire, Psijic and a single weapon skill line (resto not included).
Stamina weapons allow people to play either a melee or ranged build effectively.
Magicka gets one ranged weapon dressed up as three (but actually two) magicka weapons.
Magicka Templar, Magicka Nightblade and Magicka Dragonknight are, in many ways, designed to be melee-focused.
I think it is clear that a melee magicka weapon needs to be added, to balance things out.
In fact, to give stamina something and appease the bard fans, how about a stamina bard "weapon"? Could be used as a stamina healing/buffing weapon.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.6 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesIt's well overdue.
I can understand the Stamina bias, 4 weapon lines with 4 sub classes all having different perks, vs 1 weapon line with 3 sub classes all having different perks, if we were to have Spell Crafting.
Oh man, I don't even have enough bar space to pack my stamsorc and stamDK up with all the class toys we have avaible!
Anyway, I don't see why they shouldn't add melee magicka, spears, spellcrafting and other goodies. Except, of course, the inaptitude to balance things without making everything bland and the same.0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesSpears & Polearms - Hybrid 2 handed weapons (crafted at woodworking station).
- Combat staff - 2 handed melee weapon, more effective with magicka builds (mystic monk-style weapon).
- Spear - 2 handed melee weapon, more effective with stamina builds.
The weapon line could have some skills that would cost stamina and some that would cost magicka, but all of them would have magicka & stamina morphs.Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on August 17, 2019 1:52PM0 -
EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭DW mini staff sticks or something similar--maybe orbs. Does mag dmg vs. stam. Not that hard to implement, I would think. Same rules as DW just now it uses mag as base computation.Edited by EmEm_Oh on August 17, 2019 1:55PM0 -
blnchk✭✭✭✭✭YesThere's one perfectly valid reason for this that has nothing to do with PvE, PvP and their respective metas, and that reason is class fantasy. When every magicka character has no other viable option than to carry a wooden stick, class fantasy suffers. It may not be a reason people focused on nothing but numbers will accept, but here it is, anyway.
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srfrogg23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesMore variety is always good, but honestly, it's probably not going to be all it's cracked up to be. Staves will most likely be better in general.0 -
Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesIm lowkey hoping, that all this standardisation is so they start putting out new skill lines faster the current 1 per 5yrs pace (as in not class line).0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭YesYeah magicka already has all the class skills, while stam gets along with a few garbage weapon line skills but yeah let’s give them more lol.
This is not about magicka abilities and stamina abilities. Rather, magicka has no viable melee weapon to use, and are thus, force to use ranged magicka weapons on melee magicka builds. Not all magicka specs are ranged, just as not all stamina specs are melee.3 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYeah magicka already has all the class skills, while stam gets along with a few garbage weapon line skills but yeah let’s give them more lol.
This is not about magicka abilities and stamina abilities. Rather, magicka has no viable melee weapon to use, and are thus, force to use ranged magicka weapons on melee magicka builds. Not all magicka specs are ranged, just as not all stamina specs are melee.
It is actually possible to do magicka-melee with stamina weapons. I have a character who is like that. It just presents some unique challenges that... honestly? I find the challenge kinda fun.0 -
Cously✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesWhile you at it give us unarmed weapons like knuckles so we can give dental appointments.0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYesss... or they could've at least make light attacks to work from highest resource/damage source.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭YesMartiniDaniels wrote: »Yesss... or they could've at least make light attacks to work from highest resource/damage source.
Yup, this is also an option.0 -
Sengra✭✭✭YesI don't care about melee, but a little more variety would be nice. Wands, scrolls, books, foki of all sorts ...PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!0 -
Erelah✭✭✭✭YesI do not enjoy using staves and never have.
In games such as D&D my wizards and sorcerers use crossbows (dex helps with those range touch attack spells too!).
Since Daggerfall I never had my battle mages use staves. It is not me and I would like this option being made more available in Elder Scrolls Online.3 -
RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭Just stand in melee range and use your staves. If you like we'll take the range away.0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes
Agreed!I think It is long overdue. Unleash the melee magicka weapon.
But then, I would, would I not?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1
Exactly! Even moreso... new things that -every- character can enjoy, no matter if newly made or played since launch!!![chanting] new things new things new things new things new things new things [chanting]
...are already in the game.Conjured weapons!
DK lava whips, NB red daggers & bows, templar spears, necromancer scythes, FG dawnbreakers.
That's how that concept works in ESO.
Also, the "conjured weapons" in other TES games never really were "magica melee" - they were magiked up melee weapons that -still- were wielded by the normal weapon skills, NOT the magical skills. Thus they would translate into stamina weapons in ESO... and who'd want to magic up a stamina weapon without rune or set bonus to use???
Play Templar. Its already there!All for "Aedric Conjured Weapons."
YES! Yesyesyesyesyes!I don't care about melee, but a little more variety would be nice. Wands, scrolls, books, foki of all sorts ...
VARIETEE!
All of it! Wands, runestones, scrolls, books, holy symbols or other spell foci, EVERYTHING!
Give us more OPTIONS!
Also ZOS... imagine how you could sell each monster style again in an "alternate weapons" pack! The first one had shield, staff, bow and one each 1H and 2H... a new one might get spell focus, crossbow, polearm and another, different selection of 1H and 2H, and pretty much everyone who spent crowns for the first would be kinda likely to buy the second as well... PROFIT!1 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesConsidering you're using a staff at melee range 90% of the time in this game, I'm not sure why there isn't some kind of close-range magicka weapon.
And variety would be wonderful 4
