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  • ANGEL_BtVS
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    heaven13 wrote: »
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    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.

    Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.

    Just to make you know.

    Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.

    Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.

    Exactly this. I have all 4 feathers, a Nascent, and both berries. Next event is only the 3rd in a 4-event set so I won't be able to evolve my Nascent and start collecting feathers again. The indrik pet only comes out during the final event of the quarter so that's not an option. And I refuse to use my tickets on things I can make/farm/buy in-game.

    I've even missed days (I hated CWC so I did enough last year to only get the feather I needed and no extra tickets) and then was out of town and missed 3 days (6 tickets) at the tail end of the last event. Which was the entire point, I thought, of being able to buy extra feathers. By allowing us to purchase additional feathers, we were able to give ourselves a little breathing room if we did end up needing to miss some days, especially since the last event does have the indrik pet which is exclusive to tickets as well so in event 4, you usually need 20 tickets if you want both the final berry and the pet.

    Without being able to contribute towards my final base Nascent, what point do I have in participating in the event? That just becomes tickets that disappear into the ether.

    You just explained exactly why ZOS made the change. So you can't stack all your feathers and tickets and skip out on all the future events. ZOS wants people participating in events, including future events. Yeah, you aren't in the current event daily but you and everyone else were in it at different points throughout the event.
    Edited by ANGEL_BtVS on August 16, 2019 1:27PM
  • jaws343
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    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.

    Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.

    Just to make you know.

    Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.

    Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.

    You just supported my argument. You are still participating, even if it's not for the full event. But others who aren't caught up are also participating. ZOS has also started adding style pages and furnishing recipes which means more people participating. People just looking for feathers and berries will be FORCED to continue to participate in future events because you weren't able to cap out on a previous event.

    How does "players will participate less" support your argument? Like literally, I am a player who grinds these events to make sure that I have enough tickets to buy feathers to make sure that I can get all of the mounts available. I am not spending these limited tickets on the other cosmetics. This change will take my event participation from 100% down to around 40%. That is not good. Once a player hits the cap and they can't prebuy the feathers that they are going to need for the 4th mount and the base mount, their need to participate is gone. It isn't a good thing when your playerbase just stops doing these events because they cannot earn any more of the rewards they want to earn.
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    jaws343 wrote: »
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    What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?

    Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.

    How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
     

    You could have several extra feather sets to use for making indriks. That was removed.

    No way dude! You need to buy berries and pets too. No way you can stack Nascent Indriks.

    Besides, why you want to stack Nascent Indriks for? How do you know more Indrik mounts are coming after Pure-Snow (the fourth and last one).

    Why would anyone want to stack Nascent Indriks without knowing what's coming next after the Pure-Snow Indrik?

    What if you stack Indriks and after Pure-Snow a new mount season starts that is not created with feathers nor with Nascent Indriks?

    What you going to do? Open a ticket with: "ZOS! You scammed me! I stacked Indriks and now the new mount can't be created using the Nascent!".

    Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
     

    No one is doing that. There are a total of 5 mounts. The 4 that are morphed from the berries and the base mount. People are trying to make sure they have enough feathers for the base mount at the end.

    With the stuff I have now, I'm 100% sure I will get the last mount and I'm not stacking Indriks nor feathers.

    ZOS wouldn't realese something nor do anything if that would prevent people from getting those somethings.

    People are complaining because they're trying to predict the future before it happens.

    PS: I don't think Nascent and feathers will be needed again after Pure-Snow.
     
  • Katahdin
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    Guys there will be plenty of opportunity to get more feathers if you want all 5 indricks.

    I have not bought ant tickets from the crown store, only got tickets ftom events.

    I have the first two indricks (blue and yellow). I have a nacent for the black and all four feathers for the white.

    At some point they will have a black indrik pet so you might want tickets for that.

    Once you evolve the black one, you make the new nacent and you should be able to start getting feathers again.

    Every event has been giving at least 20 tickets so you should be able to get enough for the berries and the nacent. Remember there will be a white pet too.

    By the end of this event, I'll have enough for the next berry and I'm thrilled to not have to stay up til 2AM on Monday morning for the last ones.
    Edited by Katahdin on August 16, 2019 1:33PM
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  • redgreensunset
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    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    heaven13 wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.

    Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.

    Just to make you know.

    Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.

    Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.

    Exactly this. I have all 4 feathers, a Nascent, and both berries. Next event is only the 3rd in a 4-event set so I won't be able to evolve my Nascent and start collecting feathers again. The indrik pet only comes out during the final event of the quarter so that's not an option. And I refuse to use my tickets on things I can make/farm/buy in-game.

    I've even missed days (I hated CWC so I did enough last year to only get the feather I needed and no extra tickets) and then was out of town and missed 3 days (6 tickets) at the tail end of the last event. Which was the entire point, I thought, of being able to buy extra feathers. By allowing us to purchase additional feathers, we were able to give ourselves a little breathing room if we did end up needing to miss some days, especially since the last event does have the indrik pet which is exclusive to tickets as well so in event 4, you usually need 20 tickets if you want both the final berry and the pet.

    Without being able to contribute towards my final base Nascent, what point do I have in participating in the event? That just becomes tickets that disappear into the ether.

    You just explained exactly why ZOS made the change. So you can't stack all your feathers and tickets and skip out on all the future events. ZOS wants people participating in events, including future events. Yeah, you aren't in the current event daily but you and everyone else were in it at different points throughout the event.

    For me it just mean I'm going to skip future events altogether and not get the mounts. While they do look neat I'm ot so heavily invested in getting them that I'll accept not being able to stack feathers as I won't be able to participate in full in each event and some - like the pvp event - I will skip entirely. So with the ridiculous low cap on tickets and the only alternative being buying for crowns which I refuse to do, I'm going to step out of doing events at all from now on. The feathers and berries I already bought can langish in my collecton page indefinitely for all I care.
  • heaven13
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Guys there will be plenty of opportunity to get more feathers if you want all 5 indricks.

    I have not bought ant tickets from the crown store, only got tickets ftom events.

    I have the first two indricks (blue and yellow). I have a nacent for the black and all four feathers for the white.

    At some point they will have a black indrik pet so you might want tickets for that.

    Once you evolve the black one, you make the new nacent and you should be able to start getting feathers again.

    Every event has been giving at least 20 tickets so you should be able to get enough for the berries and the nacent. Remember there will be a white pet too.

    By the end of this event, I'll have enough for the next berry and I'm thrilled to not have to stay up til 2AM on Monday morning for the last ones.

    The point is that for event #3 in Q3 (whatever comes after Orsinium), people with 4 feathers, a base Indrik, and all current berries will have zero reason to participate once their tickets are filled back to 12/12 again. Excluding the ticket-only indrik pet in event #4, all events that have had additional purchasable items have been items that could be earned through doing in-game activities (Cadwell weapons and companion style pages, vMA style pages) or craftable in game (Orc furniture). Why would you spend your tickets on those?

    Better to just do something else with your time rather than participate and watch the tickets you earn disappear because of the absurdly low cap.
    Edited by heaven13 on August 16, 2019 1:48PM
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  • Skullderic
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    From the start, They didn't want you to stack-up on feathers, plus a 12 ticket cap.
    Most of the events give you around 24-28 tickets. 1 - Feather/1 - Berry.
    If you miss a day or 2, or need a style page, Pet etc. It seems fine.
    We're not making pillows ppl. :D
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  • AlnilamE
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    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    heaven13 wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.

    Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.

    Just to make you know.

    Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.

    Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.

    Exactly this. I have all 4 feathers, a Nascent, and both berries. Next event is only the 3rd in a 4-event set so I won't be able to evolve my Nascent and start collecting feathers again. The indrik pet only comes out during the final event of the quarter so that's not an option. And I refuse to use my tickets on things I can make/farm/buy in-game.

    I've even missed days (I hated CWC so I did enough last year to only get the feather I needed and no extra tickets) and then was out of town and missed 3 days (6 tickets) at the tail end of the last event. Which was the entire point, I thought, of being able to buy extra feathers. By allowing us to purchase additional feathers, we were able to give ourselves a little breathing room if we did end up needing to miss some days, especially since the last event does have the indrik pet which is exclusive to tickets as well so in event 4, you usually need 20 tickets if you want both the final berry and the pet.

    Without being able to contribute towards my final base Nascent, what point do I have in participating in the event? That just becomes tickets that disappear into the ether.

    You just explained exactly why ZOS made the change. So you can't stack all your feathers and tickets and skip out on all the future events. ZOS wants people participating in events, including future events. Yeah, you aren't in the current event daily but you and everyone else were in it at different points throughout the event.

    Who's skipping out on future events though? I've participated on all events pretty consistently. I have a Nascent, 2 berries and 3 extra feathers, along with 10 tickets right now, which I can use to buy the next feather.

    But next event, once I get the berry, I won't have anything to spend tickets on, unless they release the pet early. So as soon as I get the 4-6 feathers I'll need for a berry, I will have no reason to participate anymore.

    How is going from participating in an event every day to participating less than half an improvement?
    The Moot Councillor
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?

    What if you have a Nascent, AND have 4 feathers ready to go for another Nascent. If that's even possible.
    Not everyone wants anything else from the event ticket store -- especially furnishings they can make themselves.

    Wait, can't you just use a berry then?

    No, unless you benefited from the exploit that was available for the first few hours for the first Onyx Berry, it takes 4 different berries of the same color to morph the Nascent. So those of us with the Dawnwood, Luminous, Nascent, and 4 feathers can’t buy any more feathers until the last event of the quarter arrives with the final Onyx Berry.
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    I just stopped participating in the events altogether. I don't need any more re-skinned indriks.

    I will do events that include content I like, but im tired of feeling compelled to grind some boring daily quests I don't care about even if it is for a mount.
    Playing since beta...
  • StabbityDoom
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?

    What if you have a Nascent, AND have 4 feathers ready to go for another Nascent. If that's even possible.
    Not everyone wants anything else from the event ticket store -- especially furnishings they can make themselves.

    Wait, can't you just use a berry then?

    No, unless you benefited from the exploit that was available for the first few hours for the first Onyx Berry, it takes 4 different berries of the same color to morph the Nascent. So those of us with the Dawnwood, Luminous, Nascent, and 4 feathers can’t buy any more feathers until the last event of the quarter arrives with the final Onyx Berry.

    yeah figured that out after i posted that, sorry
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  • zaria
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?

    Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.

    How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
     
    You could buy multiple similar feathers earlier to get ahead. I had 5 feather and an Nascent at end of Q2 I think.
    You have to buy them on two different characters or store them in housing chests.

    I also had some similar feathers during Q4 last year before we had indriks.

    You can not do this anymore. The new system is better for most however since it was lots of confusion about this over complicated system.
    Anyway, back then it was nothing to buy, I bought the Sai chest so I could sell the one I got for gold :)

    We only need totaly 8 feathers anyway at this time if you have an Nascent indrik, if not make one.
    is on two feather now. If you like the maelstrom style rather buy the pages than feathers even if you farm vMA as they sell pretty well, next styles up is the witch outfit and it will be cheap as all the casuals farm that as crazy.
    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/glenmoril-wyrd/
    The PvP outfit is also pretty easy to farm but will be more expensive.
    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/second-legion/
    Edited by zaria on August 16, 2019 3:13PM
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    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • rotaugen454
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    The update showed me I had two Onyx Berries of Budding, which is a waste since I can only make one Onyx mount. I opened two tickets to have them turn one into the missing Onyx Berries of Blooming, as customer support said in another thread that opening a ticket would get it fixed. Still waiting to get a response. I am at least glad the system won't let you buy a berry that you can never use.
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  • Malem_Benign
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Dragonnord wrote: »
    Dragonnord wrote: »
    What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?

    Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.

    How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
     

    You could have several extra feather sets to use for making indriks. That was removed.

    No way dude! You need to buy berries and pets too. No way you can stack Nascent Indriks.

    Besides, why you want to stack Nascent Indriks for? How do you know more Indrik mounts are coming after Pure-Snow (the fourth and last one).

    Why would anyone want to stack Nascent Indriks without knowing what's coming next after the Pure-Snow Indrik?

    What if you stack Indriks and after Pure-Snow a new mount season starts that is not created with feathers nor with Nascent Indriks?

    What you going to do? Open a ticket with: "ZOS! You scammed me! I stacked Indriks and now the new mount can't be created using the Nascent!".

    Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
     

    No one is doing that. There are a total of 5 mounts. The 4 that are morphed from the berries and the base mount. People are trying to make sure they have enough feathers for the base mount at the end.

    With the stuff I have now, I'm 100% sure I will get the last mount and I'm not stacking Indriks nor feathers.

    ZOS wouldn't realese something nor do anything if that would prevent people from getting those somethings.

    People are complaining because they're trying to predict the future before it happens.

    PS: I don't think Nascent and feathers will be needed again after Pure-Snow.
     

    No, mate, peope are trying to play the same rules, that were from the beginning.

    Everyone get and spend ticket the way they want. Most of the people that made mistake purchases already got their tickets and feathers back - support is very nice with such concerns.

    But now, in the middle of the ongoing event the rules are changed...
    Hmm, imagine that in the middle of FIFA Cup the rules are changed... Or better - in the middle of the match!
    Sounds nice? Sounds innocent?

    Anyway, ZOS makes all possible efforts to decrese motivation to play the game, not only participate in events...
  • Malem_Benign
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    The update showed me I had two Onyx Berries of Budding, which is a waste since I can only make one Onyx mount. I opened two tickets to have them turn one into the missing Onyx Berries of Blooming, as customer support said in another thread that opening a ticket would get it fixed. Still waiting to get a response. I am at least glad the system won't let you buy a berry that you can never use.

    Got one extra feather in my chest, clicked on it and it disappeared...
    Support told me to remove all the add-ons and it appeared in my inventory :)
  • DLM
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    can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?

    Yes you can... if you don't already have that mount. For instance I already have a Nascent Indrik that will be used to evolve as Onyx. I had 4 feathers ready for a new Nascent to be evolved as Pure-Snow and I had already 3 feathers to get yet another Nascent that I would have kept this way in order to get 5 mounts in the end, base + 4 evolutions.

    Today I have 4 feathers that were added to my collection and the 3 extra are lost. Getting 4 more feathers ahead would have avoided the concern of having enough of them to get all 5 mounts. Now I have no idea if we are going to get enough of them to obtain a last Nascent.
    Edited by DLM on August 16, 2019 7:02PM
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Many forum-goers here are disguising their disdain for the change in feathers / berries ... by saying there will not be an opportunity to get enough tickets for the remaining mounts.

    How can you be sure there will not be enough tickets in the future events ... when ZOS hasn’t even announced what the events are and tickets per day?

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on August 16, 2019 7:13PM
  • Katahdin
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    heaven13 wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Guys there will be plenty of opportunity to get more feathers if you want all 5 indricks.

    I have not bought ant tickets from the crown store, only got tickets ftom events.

    I have the first two indricks (blue and yellow). I have a nacent for the black and all four feathers for the white.

    At some point they will have a black indrik pet so you might want tickets for that.

    Once you evolve the black one, you make the new nacent and you should be able to start getting feathers again.

    Every event has been giving at least 20 tickets so you should be able to get enough for the berries and the nacent. Remember there will be a white pet too.

    By the end of this event, I'll have enough for the next berry and I'm thrilled to not have to stay up til 2AM on Monday morning for the last ones.

    The point is that for event #3 in Q3 (whatever comes after Orsinium), people with 4 feathers, a base Indrik, and all current berries will have zero reason to participate once their tickets are filled back to 12/12 again. Excluding the ticket-only indrik pet in event #4, all events that have had additional purchasable items have been items that could be earned through doing in-game activities (Cadwell weapons and companion style pages, vMA style pages) or craftable in game (Orc furniture). Why would you spend your tickets on those?

    Better to just do something else with your time rather than participate and watch the tickets you earn disappear because of the absurdly low cap.

    I will be exactly in that situation during the next event. I have all 4 feathers for the white indrik and a nacent for the black one.
    I'll have 10 tickets for the next berry and will refill the tickets after.

    I agree, I don't spend tokens on the things I can farm or buy either gold. Just did that with the maelstrom pages. I farmed a few and bought the others.

    They also want to make sure there are enough people doing each event. If everyone had everything stockpiled before the last event or so, why would you do those events at all? This way everyone has to participate for some time each event if they want the indriks.

    I am perfectly fine with not having to log I and do the event every day. So If I'm tired and just don't feel like playing or just want to do something else, I can do so knowing I'll still be able to get enough tickets for all the versions of the indrik I want.

    It's gona be fine, really it is.
    Edited by Katahdin on August 16, 2019 7:54PM
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  • Katahdin
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    DLM wrote: »
    can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?

    Yes you can... if you don't already have that mount. For instance I already have a Nascent Indrik that will be used to evolve as Onyx. I had 4 feathers ready for a new Nascent to be evolved as Pure-Snow and I had already 3 feathers to get yet another Nascent that I would have kept this way in order to get 5 mounts in the end, base + 4 evolutions.

    Today I have 4 feathers that were added to my collection and the 3 extra are lost. Getting 4 more feathers ahead would have avoided the concern of having enough of them to get all 5 mounts. Now I have no idea if we are going to get enough of them to obtain a last Nascent.

    Wait.....

    The extra feathers you had are gone?
    As in deleated?

    If that's the case, that needs to be fixed
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  • Malem_Benign
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    Many forum-goers here are disguising their disdain for the change in feathers / berries ... by saying there will not be an opportunity to get enough tickets for the remaining mounts.

    How can you be sure there will not be enough tickets in the future events ... when ZOS hasn’t even announced what the events are and tickets per day?

    The "forumgoers" talk about instant change in rules in the middle of the event, limitation and as result - no motivation to participate in every event from the start till the end. And suspect the non-clever intention to raise microtransactions in future...

    Please read carefully...
  • Dashmatt
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    Remove the cap for event tickets. Problem solved.
  • Donari
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    I just wish I knew what the next event would be. I will hit 12 tickets tomorrow, and then must decide between buying a third feather and then doing a WB on Sunday to get 2 more tickets, or skipping that and holding onto my 12 tickets so I can get the third berry right away and not fret too much about tickets if it's an event I can't really bring myself to do, eg a pure PvP one.

    I didn't care for the green Indrik so I was able to handily get gold even without the PvP event, and I do want both black and white ones plus nascent. I am a little behind thanks to not having access to the TG dailies (not high enough rank, so I did the DB ones only in that event). I have a nascent "in stock" right now, ready to become the black one, and am prepping to get a nascent to turn into the white one along with berries for it, then will also need 40 more tickets for the final nascent. I'll hate to waste a possible feather acquisition if the next berry is easy to get, but I'll hate to use up my tickets if the berry is hard :( It's difficult to make wise decisions in the absence of data.
    Edited by Donari on August 16, 2019 9:51PM
  • Nerouyn
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    Dragonnord wrote: »

    No way dude! You need to buy berries and pets too. No way you can stack Nascent Indriks.

    You're wrong and everyone who has played the game knows it. What Malem said is true.

    Previously you couldn't buy duplicate feathers / berries on a single character. But you could store them on alts, in the bank or in storage chests.

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    Many forum-goers here are disguising their disdain for the change in feathers / berries ... by saying there will not be an opportunity to get enough tickets for the remaining mounts.

    How can you be sure there will not be enough tickets in the future events ... when ZOS hasn’t even announced what the events are and tickets per day?

    I don't know if there will be enough tickets or not.

    What I DO know is that I used to be able to buy duplicate feathers if I wanted to, for my own reasons at my own time, and now I can't. ZOS took that choice away from me. Now, ZOS is making me wait until I make the Onyx Indrik and a new Nascent before I can buy extra of the feathers I already have.
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    Donari wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the next event would be. I will hit 12 tickets tomorrow, and then must decide between buying a third feather and then doing a WB on Sunday to get 2 more tickets, or skipping that and holding onto my 12 tickets so I can get the third berry right away and not fret too much about tickets if it's an event I can't really bring myself to do, eg a pure PvP one.

    This event you get tickets for either doing a world boss quest or a delve. You can also do the quest prior to the daily reset, not hand it in, then turn in after the reset for instant tickets.

    I have also skipped the pvp events. Also holiday pvp achievements. It wouldn't surprise me if this change is designed to deny us the option of non-participation. But last we heard the midyear mayhem has been delayed to January to allow them time to try to improve performance in Cyrodiil.
  • Donari
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    Nerouyn wrote: »
    Donari wrote: »
    I just wish I knew what the next event would be. I will hit 12 tickets tomorrow, and then must decide between buying a third feather and then doing a WB on Sunday to get 2 more tickets, or skipping that and holding onto my 12 tickets so I can get the third berry right away and not fret too much about tickets if it's an event I can't really bring myself to do, eg a pure PvP one.

    This event you get tickets for either doing a world boss quest or a delve. You can also do the quest prior to the daily reset, not hand it in, then turn in after the reset for instant tickets.
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    Yes, I know :) I've been doing WB's. I have 10 tickets right now. When I do a WB tomorrow (Saturday), I will have 12 tickets. At which point I can either spend some or quit the event early. I have both black berries, a nascent, and 2 feathers currently collected. Therefore the quandary is not how do I do this event, but do I spend on a feather or save for a berry, and the answer depends on whether I will be able to do the next event. Which I won't know until ZoS reveals what said event is.

    I'm fortunate, I suppose, in that I don't have extras causing grief with this mid-stream horse change. My quandary would be exactly the same if the system hadn't changed. But it's still a hovering question that I will have to choose an answer to on Sunday without the necessary data to be sure I'm choosing correctly.
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    What's the logic behind you people saying that "now I'm only gonna get 10 tickets for the new berry instead of playing 100% of the time"?

    I mean, since obviously you don't want anything else but the mounts, when you have them all, you would stop doing the events just the same, right?

    In the end, you will be playing just as many days of events for just as many tickets regardless of if you can buy more feathers or not.
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