Vigor and stealth

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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Currently the Vigor self target heal breaks stealth which makes no sense cause it’s self target so is a change on the way for that cause self targeted buff/heals should never break stealth.
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  • Jhalin
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    Casting anything breaks cloak, working as intended

    If suddenly the heal ticks are breaking cloak, then it’s not intended.

  • PrinceDamien
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Casting anything breaks cloak, working as intended

    If suddenly the heal ticks are breaking cloak, then it’s not intended.

    I guess it depends on what "anything" means.
    Like, I can cast Relentless Focus, Leeching Strikes, Channeled Acceleration without breaking stealth.
    Those (and probably more. those are just the ones I know from the top of my head) should be included in that "anything" you're speaking of. Yet they don't break stealth.
  • Kadoin
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Casting anything breaks cloak, working as intended

    If suddenly the heal ticks are breaking cloak, then it’s not intended.

    I guess it depends on what "anything" means.
    Like, I can cast Relentless Focus, Leeching Strikes, Channeled Acceleration without breaking stealth.
    Those (and probably more. those are just the ones I know from the top of my head) should be included in that "anything" you're speaking of. Yet they don't break stealth.

    Wow, that seems remarkably similar to what happens when you are in stealth! What a coincidence! It's almost as if the skills that break cloak break stealth! I think I'm on to something!

    Now, tell me, what happens every time you cast a heal in stealth and you get the first tick of it?
  • Vapirko
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    True because it used to target others. Although lets be real. Is learning to cast vigor and then go into stealth as stamblades have been doing for ever really too much?
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    Generally, I think most skills in the buff categories, especially self buffs, shouldn't break invis/stealth. However, Vigor is a healing skill, so it does break it. Rally for example, is considered a buff skill first with an additional healing effect, so it also doesn't break cloak.

    Or I could be wrong and not actually know what I'm typing about.
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  • PrinceDamien
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Jhalin wrote: »
    Casting anything breaks cloak, working as intended

    If suddenly the heal ticks are breaking cloak, then it’s not intended.

    I guess it depends on what "anything" means.
    Like, I can cast Relentless Focus, Leeching Strikes, Channeled Acceleration without breaking stealth.
    Those (and probably more. those are just the ones I know from the top of my head) should be included in that "anything" you're speaking of. Yet they don't break stealth.

    Wow, that seems remarkably similar to what happens when you are in stealth! What a coincidence! It's almost as if the skills that break cloak break stealth! I think I'm on to something!

    Now, tell me, what happens every time you cast a heal in stealth and you get the first tick of it?

    I never said Vigor wouldn't break stealth. I just wanted to point out his comment about casting anything breaks it.
  • ruengdet2515
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    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.
  • chaz
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  • Jhalin
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Jhalin wrote: »
    Casting anything breaks cloak, working as intended

    If suddenly the heal ticks are breaking cloak, then it’s not intended.

    I guess it depends on what "anything" means.
    Like, I can cast Relentless Focus, Leeching Strikes, Channeled Acceleration without breaking stealth.
    Those (and probably more. those are just the ones I know from the top of my head) should be included in that "anything" you're speaking of. Yet they don't break stealth.

    Wow, that seems remarkably similar to what happens when you are in stealth! What a coincidence! It's almost as if the skills that break cloak break stealth! I think I'm on to something!

    Now, tell me, what happens every time you cast a heal in stealth and you get the first tick of it?

    I never said Vigor wouldn't break stealth. I just wanted to point out his comment about casting anything breaks it.

    Its shorter to say 'anything' than 'anything that's primary purpose is healing you or dealing damage'
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    This is a list of all powers that will not break your stealth.

    Nightblades: Blur, Mark Target, Grim Focus & Siphoning Strikes base powers and both morphs for all of these.

    Dragon Knight: Spiked Armor, Dragon Blood & Protective Scale base powers and both morphs for all of these.

    Templar: All Templar powers break stealth.

    Sorcerer: Defensive Rune (Rune Prison Morph), Dark Exchange, Bound Armor & Surge base powers and both morphs for all of these but Defensive Rune.

    Warden: Falcon's Swiftness, Lotus Flower, Arctic Wind & Crystallized Shield base powers and both morphs for all of these.

    Two Handed: Momentum base power and both morphs.

    One Hand & Shield: Defensive Posture base power and both morphs.

    Light Armor: Annulment base power and both morphs.

    Medium Armor: Evasion base power and both morphs.

    Heavy Armor: Unstoppable base power and both morphs.

    Mages Guild: Equilibrium base power and both morphs.

    Psijic Order: Imbue Weapon, Accelerate, Mend Wounds base powers and both morphs for all of these.

    Undaunted: Bone Shield base power and both morphs.

    The pattern is clear abilities that only affect the caster don't break stealth Resolving Vigor breaks this rule I don't have a Necro so I can't test that class but this is a full list powers that will not break stealth.
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    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
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    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
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    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.

    But you can cast a ton on abilities in stealth without breaking it. I have no problem with heals breaking stealth we can’t have healers spamming from stealth but this is self targeted with no affects on other players all other powers that are like this will not break stealth.
    Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
    Chaos Dragon-Scale: Draconic Shield Master
    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
    Bask-In-My-Light: Warrior of The Light
    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
    Guardian of The Hist: Light Mender
    Chaos of Black Marsh: Master of The Burning Sword
    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

    For the King of Argonia
    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • Jeremy
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    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.

    But you can cast a ton on abilities in stealth without breaking it. I have no problem with heals breaking stealth we can’t have healers spamming from stealth but this is self targeted with no affects on other players all other powers that are like this will not break stealth.

    Vigor also targets nearby allies. It's not a self-only ability.
  • Gilvoth
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.

    But you can cast a ton on abilities in stealth without breaking it. I have no problem with heals breaking stealth we can’t have healers spamming from stealth but this is self targeted with no affects on other players all other powers that are like this will not break stealth.

    Vigor also targets nearby allies. It's not a self-only ability.

    thats why it breaks stealth.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.

    But you can cast a ton on abilities in stealth without breaking it. I have no problem with heals breaking stealth we can’t have healers spamming from stealth but this is self targeted with no affects on other players all other powers that are like this will not break stealth.

    Vigor also targets nearby allies. It's not a self-only ability.
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    But i accept that is good reason, casting anything must break stealth mode.

    But you can cast a ton on abilities in stealth without breaking it. I have no problem with heals breaking stealth we can’t have healers spamming from stealth but this is self targeted with no affects on other players all other powers that are like this will not break stealth.

    Vigor also targets nearby allies. It's not a self-only ability.

    thats why it breaks stealth.

    Resolving Vigor is not it only heals the caster.
    Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
    Chaos Dragon-Scale: Draconic Shield Master
    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
    Bask-In-My-Light: Warrior of The Light
    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
    Guardian of The Hist: Light Mender
    Chaos of Black Marsh: Master of The Burning Sword
    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

    For the King of Argonia
    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • nekura
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Vigor also targets nearby allies. It's not a self-only ability.

    Resolving is self only, Echoing is AOE. OP is actually correct. According to ZOS stated ruleset it should not break stealth.

    But they never made a patch note for magelight popping stealth, or you know... not being able to interact with anything in stealth while in PvP.
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