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Feather/Berries limitation equals in less motivation
Malem_Benign
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Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
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PocketNova✭✭✭✭I didn't realise that the new Collections thing meant I couldn't buy any more feathers (as I already have a full set in my collections). I had planned for 2 feathers this event but as I now can't there's no point in doing the rest of the event.
They clearly don't want people planning ahead and stocking feathers for future Indriks. Most likely so people are forced to buy tickets with crowns to get what they need later down the road.PC NA
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Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yup, it’s all about driving their fans to waste money on microtransactions. Events used to exist just to be fun and felt like genuine celebrations. Now it is yet another monetization scam.20 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You can put in an Online Support ticket for any lost in-game tickets during the conversion, @Malem_Benign.
I don't think that part has been well-communicated (other than it being in one other forums thread).
After that, the cap is there for a reason ... to encourage players to participate in ALL the events without getting too far ahead.0 -
Throxx✭✭✭I think its unnecessary to change the rules mid or 3/4 into an event. Introduce this change next event. Even playing field that way.12 -
Kiyakotari✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »You can put in an Online Support ticket for any lost in-game tickets during the conversion, @Malem_Benign.
I don't think that part has been well-communicated (other than it being in one other forums thread).
After that, the cap is there for a reason ... to encourage players to participate in ALL the events without getting too far ahead.
I've been playing in all of the events, collecting as many feathers as I can, and berries, since the very start of these. My intention has been to get as many Indrik mounts, and Indrik pets, and other rewards, as I am able. Now that may not be possible because not only is the cap on tickets very low, but feathers that I already had "banked" on various characters in preparation for each Nascent to evolved transformation (and need for a new Nascent) have been rendered obsolete, and I will not be able to bank more in the future.
I have to agree with the OP, as someone who has participated in these events since the beginning and in most of them gotten the maximum possible number of tickets, or close to it, I am not pleased at all, and my interest and motivation beyond the bare minimum participation have severely waned.12 -
weedgenius✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »You can put in an Online Support ticket for any lost in-game tickets during the conversion, @Malem_Benign.
Are my spare feathers going to become event tickets?? What’s this “conversion”?
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Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭StabbityDoom wrote: »can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?
What if you have a Nascent, AND have 4 feathers ready to go for another Nascent. If that's even possible.
Not everyone wants anything else from the event ticket store -- especially furnishings they can make themselves.
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virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »StabbityDoom wrote: »can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?
What if you have a Nascent, AND have 4 feathers ready to go for another Nascent. If that's even possible.
Not everyone wants anything else from the event ticket store -- especially furnishings they can make themselves.
It’s more than possible - that’s my situation, and I skipped quite a few days of the first iteration of the TG/DB event this year due to work.
It leaves me needing 20 tickets from the rest of this event through the end of the fourth event. I’m not especially excited to grind the extra tickets if I can’t use them towards the Indriks or some other ticket-only items.1 -
rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Myself I don't care for Indrik and only got feathers for one Nacent from previous events & berries for Onyx because there's been nothing I'm interested of available from Impresario. I understand they want people do event content and buy crown tickets instead of stocking Indrik ingredients but then they really should offer enough other diverse things to buy with the tickets.
Edited by rpa on August 16, 2019 9:51AM1 -
redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@Malem_Benign Perhaps they're trying to limit us or perhaps it's just another bad calculation/move made by ZOS.
Either way, I collect tickets when I feel like it: last DB event I was so fed up with lag n DB daily quests that I just collected 2 tickets from all the available. I'm fed up with the sacrament target's rng system that keeps me from completing the list: system keeps giving me targets that I already eliminated several times and doesn't gives me the last 2 targets. So I didn't care about the event the majority of the days.
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Malem_Benign✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »You can put in an Online Support ticket for any lost in-game tickets during the conversion, @Malem_Benign.
I don't think that part has been well-communicated (other than it being in one other forums thread).
After that, the cap is there for a reason ... to encourage players to participate in ALL the events without getting too far ahead.
That's not right. The only reason is to force players to buy tickets later. No logic in your words.0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭redlink1979 wrote: »@Malem_Benign Perhaps they're trying to limit us or perhaps it's just another bad calculation/move made by ZOS.
Either way, I collect tickets when I feel like it: last DB event I was so fed up with lag n DB daily quests that I just collected 2 tickets from all the available. I'm fed up with the sacrament target's rng system that keeps me from completing the list: system keeps giving me targets that I already eliminated several times and doesn't gives me the last 2 targets. So I didn't care about the event the majority of the days.
Edited: typo.
I participated in all corresponding events and got all the tickets. Spent them on feathers and berries, got extra sets of feathers for future making of indriks. But now... I got full set of feathers, got latest berries, got 12 event tickets... Why should I continue to participate in this and upcoming events more than to get another berries? LOL.2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StabbityDoom wrote: »can't you make a nascent indrik and collect four more feathers?
Yes. But it removes some of the player choice for how to do it.
For example, I have a Nascent which will become the Onyx Indrik, have some feathers collected for the upcoming Pure Snow indrik, and I want to gather enough duplicate feathers in order to keep a Nascent Indrik.
Beforehand, there was no problem. I could collect those things in whatever order I wanted. I could collect extra feathers without having to wait until I get the 4 Onyx berries.
Now, I'm limited in which feathers I can buy extra, and I can't buy duplicate feathers working towards my final Nascent until after I've used my Onyx berries. I'm not 100% its actually going to work out to wasted tickets yet, but it makes something that used to be my choice and my timing into something that ZOS now imposed a new limit on. I find that annoying.
It's one thing to change the system midstream when its an improvement, but I dislike that it limits my ability to choose to buy duplicates.8 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's so funny that ZOS used the "valuable bank space" argument to justify the change to berries and feathers...PC/DC/NAserver
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TimeViewer✭✭✭✭Missing 2 feathers myself, had a total of 6, since we can't buy anymore now all I see this doing is screwing me out of tickets/rewards today will put me at 12 tickets, I already have all the maelstrom styles and all the orc furnishings are stuff I can craft myself, nothing at all unique among them. I had planned on having all 5 Indriks by the end of the meta event, now I'm unsure if I will unless of course I PAY for tickets, or is this intended outcome? to force sales? Dropping this kind of thing in in the middle of the event kinda leaves it feeling that way imo
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ANGEL_BtVS✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?
Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.
How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
Edited by Dragonnord on August 16, 2019 12:27PM0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?
Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.
How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
You could have several extra feather sets to use for making indriks. That was removed.4 -
TimeViewer✭✭✭✭prior to this we were able to keep feathers in bank and on alts, they were not stackable but we could own more than 1, I had a full set of 4 in my bank and 2 more feathers on an alt, now the 4 from the bank are in collections and the 2 from my alt are gone.
I just tried to submit a ticket and found they use an utterly idiotic Catch 22, to report a missing item I have to NAVIGATE TO INVENTORY AND LINK THE ITEM... ... ... let that sink in... ... ... if I'm missing the item how the heck am I suppose to navigate to it in my inventory ZoS? Can't link items from collection either so that's out so I had to submit a ticket with no item name and no explanation... ??? Yeah I see that being taken care of quickly 0 -
Malem_Benign✭✭✭ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.
Hmm, possibly, but that doesn't make change for the topic. And btw they say that it's for our inventory saving purposes, convenience... or not?
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.
Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.9 -
ANGEL_BtVS✭✭✭✭ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.
Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.
You just supported my argument. You are still participating, even if it's not for the full event. But others who aren't caught up are also participating. ZOS has also started adding style pages and furnishing recipes which means more people participating. People just looking for feathers and berries will be FORCED to continue to participate in future events because you weren't able to cap out on a previous event.Edited by ANGEL_BtVS on August 16, 2019 12:59PM0 -
JadonSky✭✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Because you can know buy tickets for crowns, so they are making it more likely you will need to buy event tickets then get them. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$2 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ANGEL_BtVS wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Hi,
Just to put my few words on the latest changes for the Indrik grinding process.
Don't know exactly what was the motivation to limit the quantity of extra feathers/berries disguising it under the usability, but for me it equals in less motivation to participate in event tickets grind. Actually the motivation is zero.
Just to make you know.
Which is just fine with ZOS because it means you will be participating in future events that you wouldn't if you had max feathers and berries. I'm sure this is why they did it.
Actually, it means less participation. If you have 2 berries, the base indrik morph, and 4 feathers for the next morph and 12 tickets, the next event will mean that you can buy the 3rd berry, build up 5 days worth of tickets to hit the cap again, and then do nothing else because you cannot buy any more feathers. A player who would have participated in 14 days of an event now only has incentive to participate in 5.
Exactly this. I have all 4 feathers, a Nascent, and both berries. Next event is only the 3rd in a 4-event set so I won't be able to evolve my Nascent and start collecting feathers again. The indrik pet only comes out during the final event of the quarter so that's not an option. And I refuse to use my tickets on things I can make/farm/buy in-game.
I've even missed days (I hated CWC so I did enough last year to only get the feather I needed and no extra tickets) and then was out of town and missed 3 days (6 tickets) at the tail end of the last event. Which was the entire point, I thought, of being able to buy extra feathers. By allowing us to purchase additional feathers, we were able to give ourselves a little breathing room if we did end up needing to miss some days, especially since the last event does have the indrik pet which is exclusive to tickets as well so in event 4, you usually need 20 tickets if you want both the final berry and the pet.
Without being able to contribute towards my final base Nascent, what point do I have in participating in the event? That just becomes tickets that disappear into the ether.Edited by heaven13 on August 16, 2019 1:12PMPC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
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TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭This was done to prevent people from accidentally buying two of the same feather or berry and wasting tickets. It think it's a good change because now we don't get those idiotic threads from people too silly to read which ticket or berry they're buying.1 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Malem_Benign wrote: »Dragonnord wrote: »What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?
Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.
How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
You could have several extra feather sets to use for making indriks. That was removed.
No way dude! You need to buy berries and pets too. No way you can stack Nascent Indriks.
Besides, why you want to stack Nascent Indriks for? How do you know more Indrik mounts are coming after Pure-Snow (the fourth and last one).
Why would anyone want to stack Nascent Indriks without knowing what's coming next after the Pure-Snow Indrik?
What if you stack Indriks and after Pure-Snow a new mount season starts that is not created with feathers nor with Nascent Indriks?
What you going to do? Open a ticket with: "ZOS! You scammed me! I stacked Indriks and now the new mount can't be created using the Nascent!".
Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Malem_Benign wrote: »Dragonnord wrote: »What you mean? So you want to stack 3 feathers of the same type? How is that possible?
Because once you have all 4 feathers you create a Nascent Indrik (no need to not create the Nascent - and so you are back to 0 feathers), then you need 40 tickets to get all 4 feathers again, and in between of that farming, you have berries to buy, pets, etc.
How can you possible stack 2 or 3 feathers of the same type?
You could have several extra feather sets to use for making indriks. That was removed.
No way dude! You need to buy berries and pets too. No way you can stack Nascent Indriks.
Besides, why you want to stack Nascent Indriks for? How do you know more Indrik mounts are coming after Pure-Snow (the fourth and last one).
Why would anyone want to stack Nascent Indriks without knowing what's coming next after the Pure-Snow Indrik?
What if you stack Indriks and after Pure-Snow a new mount season starts that is not created with feathers nor with Nascent Indriks?
What you going to do? Open a ticket with: "ZOS! You scammed me! I stacked Indriks and now the new mount can't be created using the Nascent!".
Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
No one is doing that. There are a total of 5 mounts. The 4 that are morphed from the berries and the base mount. People are trying to make sure they have enough feathers for the base mount at the end.2
