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Vanilla Eso for veterans/pvp
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!what are you saying kid! if you disagree too that means you have a agenda! my poor head0 -
cyclonus11✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I was thinking they should add something similar to Everquest's Priests of Discord - turn in the Tome of Discord to the priest, and your character is now PVP. Don't want to be PVP? Destroy the tome.
Make all zones both PVP and PVE, including Cyrodiil. Those who want to play PVP anywhere, can. Those who want to play PVE anywhere, can. Then add PVP objectives in all other zones, both vanilla overland zones and expansions. You could even add bounty hunting for those PVP characters who are caught committing crimes!2 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!you're literally hating just to h8, "let me shut down your hypothetical idea that doesn't affect me what so ever and might revitalize pvp and might actual save player pop and campaigns that are already dead, No zos you have everything to loose!" @Billdor0
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Diarf✭✭✭Lol. One big nope. PvP was terrible like... A lot. Now its better. Just gtfo from CP PvP.3 -
RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I’d take a 1.5 classic version (pre-cp, pre Tamriel unlimited) any day. I’d even buy the darn game again for it.
I’m not talking rose colored glasses either. The game was far deeper back then in terms of combat.
For example:
Ball of Lightning countered ranged magic attacks
Force pulse countered ball of lighting because the Cleve would bounce off the lighting ball and still hit the sorc
Veiled strike was unable to be dodged it had to be selectively blocked
Meteors could be reflected
Double reflect was a counter
Eclipse reflected all abilities even Dawnbreaker back in the casters face
Heavy attack could be bash interrupted stoping resource gain and stunning the enemy
Uppercut and it’s morphs could be bash interrupted so some potatoe couldn’t try and cast it in your face without an immovable pot
Gap closers actually work and didn’t snare or otherwise mess with character pathing
We had unique skills like Blinding Flashes, the toggle inferno,
Last but not least no CP, no power creep, and much smaller resource pools meant mistakes were much more costly, even more costly than no cp is currently. Button mashing animation canceling in pvp was discouraged because the way resource management worked back then you would be out of resources in about 7-10 seconds and dead. Combat was more of a sustain and outsmarting your opponent, baiting people into mistakes and over extending instead of the button mashing we have now
Case in point
https://youtu.be/e3PZR-SGZxs
https://youtu.be/mCK_D_nc7Lo
Do an eso classic already ZOS take my money I know TONS of people who will buy it and come back in an instant. It’s just more money in your pocket.
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Fake Poll.
When All of the choices Only support the writer's point of view, it's a completely False poll.
When the writer claims the game deteriorates with every patch - and does Not show any evidence to prove it - it should be translated into ' I, the writer don't like it, and everyone must agree with me '.
When they say the quality of PvP as a whole deteriorates, and shows No evidence to support the claim, see previous translation.
This is simply one individual's personal bias and opinion - Which they have every right to. But to make such sweeping generalities and claim them to be Facts, is a tad dishonest and makes their position much more difficult to sympathize with.
IMHO
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jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its about that time! As this game deteriorates with every patch and the quality of pvp as a whole, If Eso could some how bring a pvp campaign out thus cycling through all the most iconic patch's they've had in the past thus reverting abilities and classes to their former state in those patches, for example if you had a month campaign and it cycled weekly through the most demanded patches like 1.6, one tamerial, morrowind etc
lets be real the game isnt getting better for pvper's and this idea i have not the slightest doubt it would revitalize pvp and bring back so many veterans included!
i'm pretty sure this would be relative to the wow approach in some aspects. A campaign for veterans should be considered thought!
Biast as *** poll. Vanilla eso ssd TOTAL crap. I know been here since beta.Edited by jircris11 on August 15, 2019 3:20PMIGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Let's not pretend any version of ESO PvP was universally loved. If you started with console, maybe you don't remember infinite swarm vampires. Although we could balance that out with the week they broke silverbolts and it was instakilling vamps. How about when you could buy overpower npc guards? Or how about back to when ground oils were still a thing, only now we would know we could use caltrops to cancel out ground AoE?Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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WeerW3ir✭✭✭✭✭
✭Have you ever been here at the beginning?? At the very beginning? When the veteran zones existed and literally noone played in them? You basicly asking for something which wasnt worked once. Why would it work now?4 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
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Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?
Because grinding out gear, mats, skills, et cetra for two of the same character, sounds like so much fun...
Having to log out of one game, then back into another just to swap game modes that have always been in the same game, sounds like so much fun...
Adding more work for devs, sounds like so much fun...
But the main reason in pvp game you grind your gear in pvp, isn't it? So you enjoy grinding pve for pve gear and pvp for pvp gear.
Ir they can make equalized gear for cyrodiil online.
Like 3 defensive set for 3 armor types , with bonuses like
1000 stat (Hp, Stam, mag)
--3% damage from players
And 5 bonus +300 wpd or spd or 4k max stat. And - 15% damage.
And same offencive set with +% damage to players.
Same with Ms.
And all buyable for ap.
It's only for example, I don't want to think more then 1 min about it.
The main reason I PvP is to PvP. The main reason I PvE is to PvE. Gearing is just part of getting prepared.
Further, gear crosses boundaries as we do wear some gear in PvP that is obtained in Pve and I know of several sets I have worn over the years in PvE that was obtained in PvP.
However, I fail to see how this is germane to what OP has asked for.1 -
Ash_In_My_Sujamma✭✭✭✭✭Baby steps. Let's start by bringing back the old Cyrodiil bridges with all those beautiful chokepoints underneath them.
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭for the previous past two years I've been displeased with every patch. This says something!
Says you might be playing the wrong game.
And if they did do a campaign reverted back (they will not because it would have to be a separate server) who gets to decide which patch they go back to? Different players on different characters have different ideas about when the game was at its best.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."5 -
essi2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭what are you saying kid! if you disagree too that means you have a agenda! my poor head
Wow... just wow, calling people who disagree with you children..."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!Thfor the previous past two years I've been displeased with every patch. This says something!
Says you might be playing the wrong game.
And if they did do a campaign reverted back (they will not because it would have to be a separate server) who gets to decide which patch they go back to? Different players on different characters have different ideas about when the game was at its best.
they literally made a seperate server for imperial city, and its still dead!
you're obviously not familiar with the wow approach and the decay of other games!
population was more abundant in the past that is irrefutable and speaks for it's self!40 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thfor the previous past two years I've been displeased with every patch. This says something!
Says you might be playing the wrong game.
And if they did do a campaign reverted back (they will not because it would have to be a separate server) who gets to decide which patch they go back to? Different players on different characters have different ideas about when the game was at its best.
they literally made a seperate server for imperial city, and its still dead!
you're obviously not familiar with the wow approach and the decay of other games!
population was more abundant in the past that is irrefutable and speaks for it's self!4
No it is not a separate server, it is a separate instance on the same server. If it were a separate server you wouldn't be able to take a character there from any other zone. There are two servers for PC and two each for the consoles. To do what you ask they would need to add three more servers.
That isn't going to happen.
And we still have the problem of who decides how far to roll back. No matter where they would roll back to they would alienate the majority of their players.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!Thfor the previous past two years I've been displeased with every patch. This says something!
Says you might be playing the wrong game.
And if they did do a campaign reverted back (they will not because it would have to be a separate server) who gets to decide which patch they go back to? Different players on different characters have different ideas about when the game was at its best.
they literally made a seperate server for imperial city, and its still dead!
you're obviously not familiar with the wow approach and the decay of other games!
population was more abundant in the past that is irrefutable and speaks for it's self!4
No it is not a separate server, it is a separate instance on the same server. If it were a separate server you wouldn't be able to take a character there from any other zone. There are two servers for PC and two each for the consoles. To do what you ask they would need to add three more servers.
That isn't going to happen.
And we still have the problem of who decides how far to roll back. No matter where they would roll back to they would alienate the majority of their players.
it's hypothetical, and to pull it off we wouldn't know the extent or measures they would need to go to. unless that is, if you work for them? doubt it0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!Terrible idea and waste of resources. OP forgets that PvP has ALWAYS been broken.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE3 -
LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a "veteran", no.
Also, very biased poll.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.3 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!nice poll bias.PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!as it's biased to say other wise, logic!0
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!this poll is informative to show there is at least a 50/50 split which should be reflective to nearly the entire population of the game that is left.
However I can care careless for the 50% of casuals that would vote against a hypothetical possibility, & and I guarantee these would be hindsight hypocrites if something of this nature were to exist, meaning they would enjoy this campaign and especially one that rewards skill, if they were ever to bridge the skill gap!0 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭this poll is informative to show there is at least a 50/50 split which should be reflective to nearly the entire population of the game that is left.
However I can care careless for the 50% of casuals that would vote against a hypothetical possibility, & and I guarantee these would be hindsight hypocrites if something of this nature were to exist, meaning they would enjoy this campaign and especially one that rewards skill, if they were ever to bridge the skill gap!
It wont reflect the entire Population, there isnt nearly as many Players that care About PvP than there is Players that dont. And the People that played at launch are even less. Also because around 140 People voted on that poll and had a Rough 50/50 split doesnt mean that you can apply this to the playerbase.Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.3 -
GhostofDatthaw✭✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!This poll is much closer than I thought0
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Luthid✭✭✭I’m a “since beta” veteran who has no interest in this proposed nonsense. This poll is bad.3 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!it's very reflective and I have played on two platforms, i'm capped on both i'm in veteran pvp guilds and those guilds are all dead, That's thousand's of players gone to account for and they all shared a mutual understanding in knowing the negative progression of pvp in Eso!
sure the casual player base might be the majority but I care about the majority of great eso pvper's0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
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