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Khajiit is severely underpowered

SneaK
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Consider this a formal complaint, my favorite character, Reggie Mane the Stray Kat, is so far below my other characters when it comes to combat it’s insane. I can throw the same gear Reggie was wearing on my Orc, Regginald Mane, and the stats are grossly different. Poor Reggie Kat can’t catch a break.

Are Khajiits supposed to be reserved to RPing thieves or hybrid builds?

WTF, please fix, for Reggie.
"IMO"
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  • ArchMikem
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    Wear Leviathan and make a crit kitty.
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  • Anyron
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    thats because orc is disgustingly OP compared to other races
  • doomette
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Wear Leviathan and make a crit kitty.
    <3 my Kritty Cat
  • SneaK
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Wear Leviathan and make a crit kitty.

    And that’s the only semi viable build. Which is negated by 70% of people in PvP because of Impen.
    "IMO"
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  • SirPilky
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    Khajiit is one of the better races for DDs because of the crit damage passive, run thief instead of shadow and you'll be pleasantly surprised :-D
  • Arca94
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    Khajiit 'severely underpowered'?

    Wood Elves, Argonians and Imperials would like a word...
  • SirPilky
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    Also, ability>race.
  • max_only
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    Arca94 wrote: »
    Khajiit 'severely underpowered'?

    Wood Elves, Argonians and Imperials would like a word...

    Co-signed.
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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  • Dinokstrun
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    I play khajiit Stamcro and I think we're doing fine granted it's not as powerful as orcs or dunmer but severely underpowered doesn't label right with me. Kinda preferred the old khajiit crit chance passive but that would probably make Khajiit too strong.

    OwO
  • Royalthought
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    Arca94 wrote: »
    Khajiit 'severely underpowered'?

    Wood Elves, Argonians and Imperials would like a word...

    Are you sure about woodelves?

    I heard dodgerolling is great for parse scores...

    On a serious note, if they made bosmer the "regen" race and actually gave it magic recovery to match the stam it wouldve been fine.
    Edited by Royalthought on August 15, 2019 9:43PM
  • whitecrow
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    But Khajiit is beautiful yes?
  • SneaK
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    But Khajiit is beautiful yes?

    The only thing Reggie has going for him.
    "IMO"
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  • Davor
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Consider this a formal complaint, my favorite character, Reggie Mane the Stray Kat, is so far below my other characters when it comes to combat it’s insane. I can throw the same gear Reggie was wearing on my Orc, Regginald Mane, and the stats are grossly different. Poor Reggie Kat can’t catch a break.

    Are Khajiits supposed to be reserved to RPing thieves or hybrid builds?

    WTF, please fix, for Reggie.

    Stay off the Skooma. :smiley:
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • SneaK
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    Arca94 wrote: »
    Khajiit 'severely underpowered'?

    Wood Elves, Argonians and Imperials would like a word...

    Argonian? What.. they can have the best sustain of any race.

    Wood Elf, I have a Bosmer Stamblade that achieves so much more in comparison to Big Regg. Bosmer has two strong passives and one goofy one, but still beneficial in common situations.

    Imperial, locked behind a paywall, this race should never be above any others.
    "IMO"
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  • Aznarb
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    My Nord warden healer need a buff to match breton ! Plz ZoS..

    Seriously, race doesn't really matter the difference is pretty low.
    It's more about build, class and rotation, race have never be a huge factor.
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  • TheGreatBlackBear
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    It depends on what you mean by under powered. If you're not pulling 50k mag or 55k stam on the 3 mil or 85k mag/90k stam on the raid dummy that's entirely on YOU. Fix your rotation/gear/CP not your race. If you're at those high numbers and looking to squeeze even more dps out of your toon then we can have a talk about how the race is under powered.
  • Arca94
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Arca94 wrote: »
    Khajiit 'severely underpowered'?

    Wood Elves, Argonians and Imperials would like a word...

    Argonian? What.. they can have the best sustain of any race.

    Wood Elf, I have a Bosmer Stamblade that achieves so much more in comparison to Big Regg. Bosmer has two strong passives and one goofy one, but still beneficial in common situations.

    Imperial, locked behind a paywall, this race should never be above any others.

    Mate, if you truly believe all that then I have no hope :D
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Consider this a formal complaint, my favorite character, Reggie Mane the Stray Kat, is so far below my other characters when it comes to combat it’s insane. I can throw the same gear Reggie was wearing on my Orc, Regginald Mane, and the stats are grossly different. Poor Reggie Kat can’t catch a break.

    Are Khajiits supposed to be reserved to RPing thieves or hybrid builds?

    WTF, please fix, for Reggie.

    Khajiit is strong and cool looking. Strong because it has some pretty solid overall passives making good Tanks, Magicka - Stamina DDs & Healers of all classes.

    So stop copying builds blindly without realizing what racial passives you have and how to compensate.

    If you play Khajiit you can skip the Shadow Mundus so change it to what ever you need.
    Apprentice (Spell Damage), to be in par of Altmer, Warrior (Weapon Damage) to be in par of hard hitting Orcs.

    Or you can go Mother Sorrow/Leviathan with Shadow Mundus for a hell a lot of more damage.

    And especially if you are good with stacks, on Stamplar & Sta-Sorc use Tzogvin's. It will free the trap slot for 1 more skill to use.
  • NekoTashi
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    My khajiit is totally the opposite of underpowered lol. So yeah I think its you that's making the wrong choices on his/her build. This has nothing to do with race. ;)
    Edited by NekoTashi on August 15, 2019 10:51PM
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  • doomette
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    But Khajiit is beautiful yes?
    My khajiit consistently have the most creepers creeping up on them, so apparently.
    One is named Toebeans of Doom, which apparently was a mistake considering the odd obsession with toes amongst a certain subset of players... 🤔
    Edited by doomette on August 15, 2019 10:51PM
  • SneaK
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Consider this a formal complaint, my favorite character, Reggie Mane the Stray Kat, is so far below my other characters when it comes to combat it’s insane. I can throw the same gear Reggie was wearing on my Orc, Regginald Mane, and the stats are grossly different. Poor Reggie Kat can’t catch a break.

    Are Khajiits supposed to be reserved to RPing thieves or hybrid builds?

    WTF, please fix, for Reggie.

    Khajiit is strong and cool looking. Strong because it has some pretty solid overall passives making good Tanks, Magicka - Stamina DDs & Healers of all classes.

    So stop copying builds blindly without realizing what racial passives you have and how to compensate.

    If you play Khajiit you can skip the Shadow Mundus so change it to what ever you need.
    Apprentice (Spell Damage), to be in par of Altmer, Warrior (Weapon Damage) to be in par of hard hitting Orcs.

    Or you can go Mother Sorrow/Leviathan with Shadow Mundus for a hell a lot of more damage.

    And especially if you are good with stacks, on Stamplar & Sta-Sorc use Tzogvin's. It will free the trap slot for 1 more skill to use.

    No they don’t have good passives lol. 100 health recovery and 80 mag/stam recov is a complete waste. The other max stat is one or two hakeijo or triune jewelry pc. It’s the other way around, all you Kats are bringing suboptimal builds into your groups cause you’re blinded by how your characters look!

    "IMO"
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  • Iskiab
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    Khajit’s not bad, don’t underestimate crit in pvp too. A Khajit NB using the shadow mundus can hit 93% crit modifier, considering full impen 7 pieces only reduces crits by 25% or so and crit builds work.

    All they need is maybe a slight buff in stam, health and mag regen and stats. If it was 1k of each stat and 100 regen of each stat all my characters would be Khajit.
    Edited by Iskiab on August 15, 2019 11:15PM
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    You know something is off when Orc crits hit harder than Khajiit crits. Factor in the large difference in non-crits as well, and consider that Orc also has more health and self-healing. IMO the speed passive is more useful than the sneak passive, but I guess that one is subjective. Really the only thing Khajiit has going for it is the 85 recovery, but that’s pretty insignificant in the days of Lava Foot food, 740 Master Resto ticks, and Sentinel + meta.
  • Kadoin
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    You know something is off when Orc crits hit harder than Khajiit crits. Factor in the large difference in non-crits as well, and consider that Orc also has more health and self-healing. IMO the speed passive is more useful than the sneak passive, but I guess that one is subjective. Really the only thing Khajiit has going for it is the 85 recovery, but that’s pretty insignificant in the days of Lava Foot food, 740 Master Resto ticks, and Sentinel + meta.

    You forgot crit healing...
  • D0PAMINE
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    My Khajiit Stamblade is a beast. No pun intended. We can probably help you with your build.
  • ChunkyCat
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    Thanks to Race Change Tokens, Chunky Cat is more Chunky than Cat.

    rip
  • D0PAMINE
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    Thanks to Race Change Tokens, Chunky Cat is more Chunky than Cat.

    rip

    I still like you
  • Supernatural
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    Unfortunately most people have no idea what they are talking about. Khajiit specializes in one thing, crit damage and still, Orc, Dunmer and High Elf crit harder than Khajiit. That is hilarious and makes zero sense. No matter how you build your Khajiit, it will be inferior to all other DPS races.

    The issue, though, is that Khajiit itself is not that bad, it is more the fact that Orc is just way, way to good. They do more damage, crit and non-crit, have more health and way more max stam, increased sprint speed and reduced sprint cost on top of that, which is much more valuable than the extremely weak Khajiit recovery bonuses. So, one way to improve Khajiit by a good, would be to nerf Orc.

    The other way to go about it is to increase Khajiit's crit damage by about 2-4%. That would solve most balance issues and would actually give Khajiit some identity once again, without magically making it overpowered over other races.

    Overall, though, a whole racial pass should again take place. That is for sure.
    Edited by Supernatural on August 16, 2019 3:05AM
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  • Ratzkifal
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    Khajiit are pretty much a crit race. In PvE they are pretty close to the other races in both magicka and stamina.
    In PvP Khajiit aren't as great because everyone runs impen unfortunately.

    Also, to end the confusion that's been going on. Argonians have good sustain and disease resist but nothing else. Healing done is a bad stat that changes almost nothing even at +8% healing done. They only have 1000 max magicka, which is not much and their sustain relies on potions and is outclassed by Imperial sustain in every way while not being anywhere near as sturdy as Nords.

    Bosmer are in a good spot in both PvP and PvE, but that's not thanks to their Hunter's Eye passive, which is only of little and niche use in PvP and only as useful as 10% movespeed after dodgeroll can be useful in PvE. Their passives feel not true to their theme, which has always been archery and stealth. A permanent but appropriately smaller penetration bonus rather than a conditional bonus would feel a lot more reliable without shoehorning the whole race onto bow builds and if the detection range got changed back into stealth radius, then the Bosmer will be true to their stealth theme again.

    Imperials are less sturdy than Nords but have far superior sustain and slightly better dps. They are by no means in a bad spot and are considered equal to Nords for the tank role.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Anyron
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    You think your racials are weak? Think again. I am poor argonian
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