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Stam sorc pvp

TiZzA93
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So whats everyone running on stam sorc for PvP this patch? I currently run 7th, B pirate and trollking on xbox
  • akray21
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    TiZzA93 wrote: »
    So whats everyone running on stam sorc for PvP this patch? I currently run 7th, B pirate and trollking on xbox

    I tried a medium setup day one of this patch and it didn't work, way too squishy.

    For CP I run 6/1 heavy. 2H/Bow. Seventh Legion, Spriggan's (jewelry and weapons), Troll King. Steed mundus. Dubious.

    Haven't tested no CP yet.
    Edited by akray21 on August 15, 2019 2:07PM
  • Vermethys
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    I'm running Hunding's Rage, Cyrodiil's Ward, and Bloodspawn (5 heavy 2 medium) on my Imperial StamSorc. Using the Steed mundus, Artaeum Takeaway Broth, and the new Lingering Health potions. 2h + S&B set-up. High damage, lots of mobility, and great survivability (even in BGs).
    PC EU CP1400+
    In-game Username: Vermilion98

    Characters & Builds
    Edith Geonette [DC Imperial Sorcerer] (AR28)
    Gorgo Aendovius [AD Imperial Dragonknight] (AR28)

    My Builds:
  • JobooAGS
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    Likely not optimal, but still lots of fun.
    Blue food with battlefield acrobat, bloodspawn/trollking masters bow and spriggans
  • Syiccal
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    Considering playing a heavy stamsorc this patch, using trollking, seventh, sriggans and master bow.
    Now that dizzy is slightly quicker should be easier to land right?
    Only thing not sure on race?
    Edited by Syiccal on August 15, 2019 2:46PM
  • Syiccal
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    Vermethys wrote: »
    I'm running Hunding's Rage, Cyrodiil's Ward, and Bloodspawn (5 heavy 2 medium) on my Imperial StamSorc. Using the Steed mundus, Artaeum Takeaway Broth, and the new Lingering Health potions. 2h + S&B set-up. High damage, lots of mobility, and great survivability (even in BGs).

    New lingering health pots? Please link
  • Dillpat
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    if u go with 7th in scalebreaker on stam sorc you gonna be losing out on some big dmg from the last 5 ticks of hurricane as you will have to re-apply to maintain 7th uptime. Truth is better than 7th because of this for cp pvp.
  • Vermethys
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    @Syiccal I couldn't find an image or thread about them, but they are the Essence of Health (Restore Health, Restore Stamina, Lingering Health) potions introduced with Elsweyr. Alchemy ingredients are Dragon Blood, Butterfly Wing, and Columbine (or Mountain Flower).
    PC EU CP1400+
    In-game Username: Vermilion98

    Characters & Builds
    Edith Geonette [DC Imperial Sorcerer] (AR28)
    Gorgo Aendovius [AD Imperial Dragonknight] (AR28)

    My Builds:
  • akray21
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    Considering playing a heavy stamsorc this patch, using trollking, seventh, sriggans and master bow.
    Now that dizzy is slightly quicker should be easier to land right?
    Only thing not sure on race?

    This is my setup, minus master's bow (still need to grind it out, but my group doesn't like vDSA). It hits really hard even without the bow, is fast, and survives well. Sustain is iffy, but the goal is to kill before that matters, or run and reset.
    Dillpat wrote: »
    if u go with 7th in scalebreaker on stam sorc you gonna be losing out on some big dmg from the last 5 ticks of hurricane as you will have to re-apply to maintain 7th uptime. Truth is better than 7th because of this for cp pvp.

    I had the same thought, but the way I play I don't need Hurricane for the damage. 7th is up nearly all the time, and the effect looks cool. Lol
    Edited by akray21 on August 15, 2019 2:58PM
  • Syiccal
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    I'm not sure hurricane is really worth it for the damage ,its used to proc crit surge for the heals I'd guess and armour buff
  • akray21
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    I'm not sure hurricane is really worth it for the damage ,its used to proc crit surge for the heals I'd guess and armour buff

    Soul splitting trap is even better to proc crit surge. Hurricane is basically just for the small speed boost and major ward/resolve (and to proc 7th with primary resource).
  • jaws343
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    My build plan when this hits Xbox is Seventh front bar two hander, heavy Orgnums, and Troll King, with Maelstrom SnB back bar (the stam recovery while also gaining heroism is pretty solid). With tri-stat and max recovery food + steed mundus. Going for as much health recovery as I can reasonably get to counter dots and vigor/rally nerfs. Probably going to go infused jewelry with two weapon damage and 1 stam recovery. Planning on using Onslaught as the ultimate and crushing weapon as the spammable. My stamsorc is an Imperial. The cost reduction on top of the sorc cost reduction and the max health and stam is pretty solid.
    Edited by jaws343 on August 15, 2019 3:15PM
  • Dillpat
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    akray21 wrote: »
    Syiccal wrote: »
    Considering playing a heavy stamsorc this patch, using trollking, seventh, sriggans and master bow.
    Now that dizzy is slightly quicker should be easier to land right?
    Only thing not sure on race?

    This is my setup, minus master's bow (still need to grind it out, but my group doesn't like vDSA). It hits really hard even without the bow, is fast, and survives well. Sustain is iffy, but the goal is to kill before that matters, or run and reset.
    Dillpat wrote: »
    if u go with 7th in scalebreaker on stam sorc you gonna be losing out on some big dmg from the last 5 ticks of hurricane as you will have to re-apply to maintain 7th uptime. Truth is better than 7th because of this for cp pvp.

    I had the same thought, but the way I play I don't need Hurricane for the damage. 7th is up nearly all the time, and the effect looks cool. Lol

    forgot to also say, truth is just more dmg than 7th too.
  • Syiccal
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    How you setting them off balance?
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Dillpat wrote: »
    akray21 wrote: »
    Syiccal wrote: »
    Considering playing a heavy stamsorc this patch, using trollking, seventh, sriggans and master bow.
    Now that dizzy is slightly quicker should be easier to land right?
    Only thing not sure on race?

    This is my setup, minus master's bow (still need to grind it out, but my group doesn't like vDSA). It hits really hard even without the bow, is fast, and survives well. Sustain is iffy, but the goal is to kill before that matters, or run and reset.
    Dillpat wrote: »
    if u go with 7th in scalebreaker on stam sorc you gonna be losing out on some big dmg from the last 5 ticks of hurricane as you will have to re-apply to maintain 7th uptime. Truth is better than 7th because of this for cp pvp.

    I had the same thought, but the way I play I don't need Hurricane for the damage. 7th is up nearly all the time, and the effect looks cool. Lol

    forgot to also say, truth is just more dmg than 7th too.

    You're right but those who run seventh over truth do so for the addition health regen.
  • Abhaya
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    Truth is the new meta damage set if you don’t care about the health regen from 7th. 7th / trollking is probably strong for heavy builds but truth will be better on medium if you are in CP. I’m not running it just because I play both CP and no-cp and sorcerers don’t have a way to proc truth without tactician.
    Syiccal wrote: »
    How you setting them off balance?

    Tactician passive from CP sets targets off balance when you roll dodge.
    Abhaya - PC NA - Ebonheart Pact
    Stam Sorc 2-Hand / Bow Build: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=169103
  • akray21
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    Abhaya wrote: »
    Truth is the new meta damage set if you don’t care about the health regen from 7th. 7th / trollking is probably strong for heavy builds but truth will be better on medium if you are in CP. I’m not running it just because I play both CP and no-cp and sorcerers don’t have a way to proc truth without tactician.
    Syiccal wrote: »
    How you setting them off balance?

    Tactician passive from CP sets targets off balance when you roll dodge.

    I don't personally like managing the proc condition of Truth. It's playstyle issue and I understand why people like Truth, but I think 7th fits my playstyle a bit more.

    Playing in heavy also limits the amount of times you can dodge, so there is that as well.

    How does off balance work exactly? Would using a shock damage enchantment proc off balance?
  • J2JMC
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    If truth gets nerfed because it can be abused in cp I'm going to lose my mind lol. It's a non-issue in no cp.
    Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD

    Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP

    "Apparently the players are more informed than we are"-Richard Lambert

  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    If truth gets nerfed because it can be abused in cp I'm going to lose my mind lol. It's a non-issue in no cp.

    Fun fact: back when major Evasion meant a chance to auto-dodge they excluded it from proccing the CP passive after a while and in term nerfed Truth with this. But that nerf had other obvious reasons.
  • TBois
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    I run 5M/2H, 7th/briarhear/troll king/master bow with steed mundus. Felt strong, but still tougher to solo this patch.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=87385

    Edit:CP isn't accurate for this patch. I've put a lot more investment into thick skinned, but I'm still playing around with it to see what I like.
    Edited by TBois on August 15, 2019 6:29PM
    PC/NA
    T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
    An Unsettling Snowball (Templar) - AD
    Bosquecito (Stam Sorc) - DC
    Peti-T-Bois (Stamden) - AD
  • akray21
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    TBois wrote: »
    I run 5M/2H, 7th/briarhear/troll king/master bow with steed mundus. Felt strong, but still tougher to solo this patch.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=87385

    Edit:CP isn't accurate for this patch. I've put a lot more investment into thick skinned, but I'm still playing around with it to see what I like.

    Do you really run precise on the maul? My Spriggan's Maul is precise and I've been debating if I want to transmute to nirn or not. I'm I heavy so crit is pretty low without precise.
  • Abhaya
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    akray21 wrote: »
    Abhaya wrote: »
    Truth is the new meta damage set if you don’t care about the health regen from 7th. 7th / trollking is probably strong for heavy builds but truth will be better on medium if you are in CP. I’m not running it just because I play both CP and no-cp and sorcerers don’t have a way to proc truth without tactician.
    Syiccal wrote: »
    How you setting them off balance?

    Tactician passive from CP sets targets off balance when you roll dodge.

    I don't personally like managing the proc condition of Truth. It's playstyle issue and I understand why people like Truth, but I think 7th fits my playstyle a bit more.

    Playing in heavy also limits the amount of times you can dodge, so there is that as well.

    How does off balance work exactly? Would using a shock damage enchantment proc off balance?

    Shock damage applies the concussion debuff not off-balance. Off-balance makes it to where your target will get stunned and receive extra damage from a heavy attack. If you are placing your CP right it also unlocks a passive that gives +10% damage to off-balance enemies.

    I also don’t like using proc sets in my builds. There is a link to what I’m currently running in my signature if that interests you. It is a medium build and is a little squishy but I am enjoying it so far.
    Abhaya - PC NA - Ebonheart Pact
    Stam Sorc 2-Hand / Bow Build: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=169103
  • TBois
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    akray21 wrote: »
    TBois wrote: »
    I run 5M/2H, 7th/briarhear/troll king/master bow with steed mundus. Felt strong, but still tougher to solo this patch.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=87385

    Edit:CP isn't accurate for this patch. I've put a lot more investment into thick skinned, but I'm still playing around with it to see what I like.

    Do you really run precise on the maul? My Spriggan's Maul is precise and I've been debating if I want to transmute to nirn or not. I'm I heavy so crit is pretty low without precise.

    I do just to make sure I'm getting crit surge proc on cooldown. In medium it's kind of a toss up, in my mind, but in heavy I would definitely recommend it as well as running crit pots.
    Edited by TBois on August 15, 2019 7:16PM
    PC/NA
    T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
    An Unsettling Snowball (Templar) - AD
    Bosquecito (Stam Sorc) - DC
    Peti-T-Bois (Stamden) - AD
  • hakan
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    does seventh legion even worth? im using it on my stamdk but pressing volatile every 10 second.. i dunno. Heavy Hundings also seems good.
  • TBois
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    hakan wrote: »
    does seventh legion even worth? im using it on my stamdk but pressing volatile every 10 second.. i dunno. Heavy Hundings also seems good.

    Yes it functions just as its tooltip says.
    PC/NA
    T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
    An Unsettling Snowball (Templar) - AD
    Bosquecito (Stam Sorc) - DC
    Peti-T-Bois (Stamden) - AD
  • Sarousse
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    Playing Ravager/Night Mother (to proc ravager) /troll king and I'm having a blast.
  • Skullderic
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    I run (around) in my birthday suit a while, sitting on my mount naked is fun.
    I love all the /whispers I get how bad I am & The T-bags are a nice touch (me) :D
    Gert Soem!!
  • Freakin_Hytte
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    Hulking draugr on body, troll king as monster and fury on weapons/jewelry and I use 2H front bar and dw back bar. Works very well so far
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