Vanilla Eso for veterans/pvp

redlink1979 · August 2019

Delusional post...

idk · August 2019

I doubt Zos is interested in opening up 6 more servers to support such an idea. Probably not the best business choice.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

there's literally no reason to be opposed to this, it wouldn't affect the progression of the game nor yourself if this could hypothetically be pulled off!
in other words what you are telling players is to quit the game if you disagree!

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@Reistr_the_Unbroken you realize the population on eso was much higher through all the patches I named vs modern eso which is r way more promoted and publicized!

Reistr_the_Unbroken · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

@Reistr_the_Unbroken you realize the population on eso was much higher through all the patches I named vs modern eso which is r way more promoted and publicized!

English #1

TBois · August 2019

Why isnt there a option for it being a *** poll?

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@Reistr_the_Unbroken okay troll

Taleof2Cities · August 2019

There's a difference between being nostalgic and not being able to adapt to new changes.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

just a bunch of casuals dictating the outcome of the game

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@Taleof2Cities the amount of times I've heard that meanwhile simply disregarding harsh changes, mind numbing!

Jeremy · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

Its about that time! As this game deteriorates with every patch and the quality of pvp as a whole, If Eso could some how bring a pvp campaign out thus cycling through all the most iconic patch's they've had in the past thus reverting abilities and classes to their former state in those patches, for example if you had a month campaign and it cycled weekly through the most demanded patches like 1.6, one tamerial, morrowind etc
lets be real the game isnt getting better for pvper's and this idea i have not the slightest doubt it would revitalize pvp and bring back so many veterans included!
i'm pretty sure this would be relative to the wow approach in some aspects. A campaign for veterans should be considered thought!

Overall, I think this patch was a step in the right direction.

Healers are powerful again without being dependent on the group to line up in front of them (which was always dumb not to mention an unreasonable expectation in pugs).

Battlegrounds have improved significantly and are no longer just a concentrated black hole of ground attacks that instantly slaughter anyone who goes near.

Cyrodil sucks. But that's mostly due to its abysmal performance as far as I can tell. I imagine all the outrage over DoTs in CP campaigns probably has to do with the fact a few OP set ups are now vulnerable. So that probably needed to happen. Though that's just speculation on my part since I don't regularly do CP PvP.

There were some hits and misses - like the new unstoppable. But generally speaking I believe this new combat team shows promise. Sadly though they'll probably give in to the pressure and revert many of their changes.

But alll that being said: I do agree this game needs to become more stable and stop treating its players like they're part of an ongoing experiment.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · August 2019

Op definitely reminds me of the “31” yo screaming for Fortnite
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/485274/unofficial-discussion-thread-for-battle-royal-pvp-mode/p1

highkingnm · August 2019

Ah yes, roll back to the legendary early state of the game which (checks notes) almost caused the studio to go bust because the game was so greatly disliked.

Other than performance, the game has generally improved. Let's not get nostalgic for a state of the game that never existed.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

wtf you posting eso royale? that's not what i'm advocating for! i'm saying take 1 out of the two veteran campaigns that is dead, and actually try to make it a veteran campaign with all the old patches implemented thus revitalizing it in making a game that will bring back population and make all the unhappy people in game play it!
you've completely taken my statement out of context to compare it to a battle royale! LMFAO

kalunte · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

i cant recall how the game was in the first days. with todays knowledge of mechanisms, the previous stats (softcaps at 1800 mag/stam 2000 health) and only the begining sets (no monster sets at all...) it would be very fun to see how things performs.

it would also allow us to see what changed since those days...

it can be done, but it'll have to be for eso+ players only to justify the time spent on it tho...

Sanguinor2 · August 2019

It would be entertaining for some time but I think many would quickly grow tired of it. Going back in time balance hasnt been good in many many Patches.
While it would be hillarious to revert magdk back to launch and see the reaction of People to dk once again becoming the god it was in the old days I dont think that was balanced.
Dont Need the full proc tard metas back either.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@highkingnm how did that work for world of warcraft? runescape? halo Franchise? Call of duty franchise? H1z1 franchise? the list goes onetc Also I never said l"egendary ealry state of the game" I NAMED LITERALLY SEVERAL PATCHES ONLY RELEVANT TO PVP!

highkingnm · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

@highkingnm how did that work for world of warcraft? runescape? halo Franchise? Call of duty franchise? H1z1 franchise? the list goes onetc Also I never said l"egendary ealry state of the game" I NAMED LITERALLY SEVERAL PATCHES ONLY RELEVANT TO PVP!

Those were all fondly remembered and popular at the time. As someone who was here for IC, 1.6, OT and Morrowind, they were just as bemoaned and seemingly unpopular as now. In fact, I PvPed a lot back then and the zone chat was just as miserable.

You are still letting the rose-tinted glasses shape your memory.

Katahdin · August 2019

Sorc main looking to go back to the glory days of Elder Staves Online?

Performance is what has caused veteran players to quit. Not older unbalanced states of the game that are long and thankfully gone.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

A Anti sorc main, part of the anti sorc brigade. Their idea of balance is subjective more or less has no creditably when it comes to the health of pvp in game, didn't know the game was unbalanced when 3/ 4 original classes were all considered really good vs now having a support class better than everything! @Katahdin

Corpier · August 2019

As great as it would be to wear Warlock and play a darkelf vampire magicka dragonknight again, I don't think it would be the same since it would probably also be with and against thousands of other magicka dragonknights.

I think I'll pass.

ATomiX69 · August 2019

Copying Classic Wow? Nah wont work, the game isnt old enough.
WoW has its 15th anniversary this november, ESO had its 5th in April.
WoWs combat and gameplay also has changed drastically over the last 15 years, ESO hasnt changed anywhere near as much in those 5 years.
I dont think there is enough nostalgia revolving the older patches to create enough interrest to support such projects (yet).
Maybe in 10 years, but I highly doubt it that it will ever happen.

Saelent · August 2019

Because that patch didn’t have Necromancer and I won’t give up my baby, I’d never play it.
But to give all the moaners something to compare the current game to? Please, first day of opening patch. Let’s listen to the clatter of rose tinted glasses falling away as people see what the game used to be.

Let me be clear here, I have rose tinted glasses too, I loved the beta when you couldn’t tell a player from an npc, but I know there were issues.
BIG ISSUES- WITH BABBYS!!!

So, if there is an original build lying around somewhere, yeah, let people see how much the game has improved - and don’t change a damned thing about the original patch. No improvements, no class additions, nothing, exactly the same.
SAME GRAPHICS TOO PLZ

Then give me popcorn coz I wanna watch the firestorm.
Lol

Katahdin · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

A Anti sorc main, part of the anti sorc brigade. Their idea of balance is subjective more or less has no creditably when it comes to the health of pvp in game, didn't know the game was unbalanced when 3/ 4 original classes were all considered really good vs now having a support class better than everything! @Katahdin

Sorcs are fine. They are just no longer stupid OP like they once were and actually die once in a while like every one else.

I am not anti sorc, I have a sorc and have played it in PvP. Does fine.

By "support class", I guess you mean templar? Who said templars were only supposed to be a support class?
No one

Hurbster · August 2019

No, vanilla was bloody awful.

darkblue5 · August 2019

aLi3nZ wrote: »

Really miss the days when Mag Nightblade was awesome as a bomb in PVP.

Vicious Death + Soul Tether + Proximity det prior to nerf. Squishy as hell but if you were lucky you could really hurt a zerg group and cloak away.

Even when on the other end of mag bombs it was good fun, leader would speak up in discord "5 feet apart everyone and hold block" You had to be on your guard, it added some excitement.

Then there was mag sorc. Sure streak was nerfed at the time but frags still stunned, flame reach still stunned, pets were powerful. 50+ k magika and 14k sheilds were a thing. Pets are aids, but loved playing sorc at that time for good burst potential, almost on par with mage blades but could tank more damage. Which makes sense as a light armor player that has no ability to cloak spam, the sheilds were the strong part.

Now both Mag Sorc and Mag Nightblade are just shadows of their former selves. Their skills stripped away and nerfed into oblivion while generic dots available to all classes have been prioritized and buffed to unreasonable levels.

1 step forward, 2 steps back dev team, and what about this server performance. As if we trust you to keep your word on that after all this time.

Solo! Bombs are real this patch tho...

darkblue5 · August 2019

Saelent wrote: »

Because that patch didn’t have Necromancer and I won’t give up my baby, I’d never play it.
But to give all the moaners something to compare the current game to? Please, first day of opening patch. Let’s listen to the clatter of rose tinted glasses falling away as people see what the game used to be.

Let me be clear here, I have rose tinted glasses too, I loved the beta when you couldn’t tell a player from an npc, but I know there were issues.
BIG ISSUES- WITH BABBYS!!!

So, if there is an original build lying around somewhere, yeah, let people see how much the game has improved - and don’t change a damned thing about the original patch. No improvements, no class additions, nothing, exactly the same.
SAME GRAPHICS TOO PLZ

Then give me popcorn coz I wanna watch the firestorm.
Lol

ZOS_RogerJ · August 2019

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Jagdkommando · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

Im assured 70%+ players will move to vanilla version of ESO

D0PAMINE · August 2019

Leaping up onto keeps was fun af, despite being an exploit.