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In Memoriam a Magsorc/Pet-Sorc Sematary

Alienoutlaw
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With the Patch just over 12hrs away i thought i would create a space for fellow players to mourn the loss of a once beloved and mighty class, a place to share tales of hurt handed out in both PvP and PvE , a place to to remember the great days and forgive the salt.
Edited by Alienoutlaw on August 12, 2019 1:36AM
  • redspecter23
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    Pet sorcs dead? You mourn over there. I'll be across the street partying.
  • Edaphon
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    Beloved class? Everyone, including pet sorcs, hates pet sorcs.
  • Judas Helviaryn
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    Edaphon wrote: »
    Beloved class? Everyone, including pet sorcs, hates pet sorcs.

    Can confirm, magsorc main, played petsorc, I hate petsorc. It's a trivial, uninspired waste of potential and time.
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on August 12, 2019 2:08AM
  • Vapirko
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    Mag Sorcs may currently be a rather uninspired class, but they've beens strong af for a while now albeit boring to build. But the power of pet sorcs is just crazy. And yes I did get into playing one for a while to see what it was like and even without much practice 1vX was entirely possible and I could tank or kite multiple players for far longer than I would be able to on my stamina templar.
  • chris211
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    I for one am glad that petsorc is dead perhaps it will take brain cells to play the class now
  • ezio45
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    chris211 wrote: »
    I for one am glad that petsorc is dead perhaps it will take brain cells to play the class now

    except the version of the class that requires brain cells is unplayable because of the nerfs that made everyone switch to pet sorc and the continued nerfs on top of those....
  • JamieAubrey
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    Long time Sorc, never used pets outside of leveling, 5 YEARS AGO
  • chuck-18_ESO
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.
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  • Ozby
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    Edaphon wrote: »
    Beloved class? Everyone, including pet sorcs, hates pet sorcs.

    speak for yourself
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    Aurora Bravepaw (Healden), Basks in Fire (DKTank), Bran Artlion (Magplar), Brindel Seedthorne (Stamden WW), Brugo Gargak (Stamcro), Casimir Delmar (StamDK), Falco Bastion (Stamsorc), Fus Ro Dah (Stamplar), Gandalff the Gay (Petsorc), Jo-Qinan Betula (Magden), Laveera Hex (Magcro), Raine Whitestag (Stamden), Raised by Bears (Wardentank), Ralak Rotheart (Healcro), Selene Sunshadow MagDK), Shadow Mirage (NBTank), Slythe Rattlebone (Healplar), Ulfnor Dragonslayer (Tankcro).
  • Ozby
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Mag Sorcs may currently be a rather uninspired class, but they've beens strong af for a while now albeit boring to build. But the power of pet sorcs is just crazy. And yes I did get into playing one for a while to see what it was like and even without much practice 1vX was entirely possible and I could tank or kite multiple players for far longer than I would be able to on my stamina templar.

    no they have not its been a couple of months compared to the whole year nightblades had.
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    Aurora Bravepaw (Healden), Basks in Fire (DKTank), Bran Artlion (Magplar), Brindel Seedthorne (Stamden WW), Brugo Gargak (Stamcro), Casimir Delmar (StamDK), Falco Bastion (Stamsorc), Fus Ro Dah (Stamplar), Gandalff the Gay (Petsorc), Jo-Qinan Betula (Magden), Laveera Hex (Magcro), Raine Whitestag (Stamden), Raised by Bears (Wardentank), Ralak Rotheart (Healcro), Selene Sunshadow MagDK), Shadow Mirage (NBTank), Slythe Rattlebone (Healplar), Ulfnor Dragonslayer (Tankcro).
  • Ozby
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

    Agreed
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    Aurora Bravepaw (Healden), Basks in Fire (DKTank), Bran Artlion (Magplar), Brindel Seedthorne (Stamden WW), Brugo Gargak (Stamcro), Casimir Delmar (StamDK), Falco Bastion (Stamsorc), Fus Ro Dah (Stamplar), Gandalff the Gay (Petsorc), Jo-Qinan Betula (Magden), Laveera Hex (Magcro), Raine Whitestag (Stamden), Raised by Bears (Wardentank), Ralak Rotheart (Healcro), Selene Sunshadow MagDK), Shadow Mirage (NBTank), Slythe Rattlebone (Healplar), Ulfnor Dragonslayer (Tankcro).
  • LightMaster7
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    Does anyone know if Power Surge has been nerfed as it was rumored? That it now does not heal magsorc on crit damage?
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Don't remember much sympathy when Templar got nerfed into the ground, and I remember quite a bit of "overjoyed" ranged mag and Stam users when dk wings were radically changed. What goes around comes around.
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  • Chadak
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

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  • Alienoutlaw
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    Does anyone know if Power Surge has been nerfed as it was rumored? That it now does not heal magsorc on crit damage?

    we wont know for sure until the natch potes are published later today, but as it stands i assume it is still going to happen, and yesit will be a crit heal proc
  • zvavi
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    As much as i mourn the usefulness of the pets being removed, it was over preforming. The amount of heals and damage i could provide in dlc dungeons while keeping up a steady 40k dps was disgusting. But it was blasphemous that a class which is not templar could off heal to such extent, so i rerolled a templar for the upcoming patch.
  • SidraWillowsky
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

    Exactly. As a nightblade enthusiast I long called for nerfs to sorcs because I've been lead to understand that Sorcs and NBs are mortal enemies. I apologize, sorcs; if I had to choose between the class come tomorrow or the class as it stands today, I'd want you to have the latter. Don't tell the rest of the NBs though...

    (fyi I've never actually cried for nerfs outside of the odd tongue-in-cheek #NerfSorcs comment)
    Edited by SidraWillowsky on August 12, 2019 1:08PM
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Don't remember much sympathy when Templar got nerfed into the ground, and I remember quite a bit of "overjoyed" ranged mag and Stam users when dk wings were radically changed. What goes around comes around.

    sorcs have been nerfed consistantly because of the lack of skill from the "meta" PvP builds and players, you complain about pets in PvP yet hug a rock because you cant fight in the open, every nerf the sorc has had has been inline with some class getting wrecked by X skill so call for its nerf and when you still get wrecked you cry for yet more, Sorcs are ridiculed as a "cheese" or an un skilled players choice, yet we have learned to counter every tactic thrown at us and overcome almost every nerf, pets are nothing more than portable rocks or WW's that dont need feeding or a breath of life spamable, to play a Sorc requires skill.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

    Exactly. As a nightblade enthusiast I long called for nerfs to sorcs because I've been lead to understand that Sorcs and NBs are mortal enemies. I apologize, sorcs; if I had to choose between the class come tomorrow or the class as it stands today, I'd want you to have the latter. Don't tell the rest of the NBs though...

    (fyi I've never actually cried for nerfs outside of the odd #NerfSorcs comment)

    thanks for that :) Nerfing is one thing but destroying a whole class Pve and PvP is something different, if they get away it for us imagine who is next
  • redspecter23
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

    Anything that leads to fewer pets in towns is something I'll be happy about. I would have preferred if ZOS did something on their end like make them invisible to other players in towns, but I'll take what I can get.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    It's pretty disheartening to see people overjoyed at changes that deprive others of their own fun. Sure, pets in town are annoying AF, but that's no reason to laugh with glee at people who are disappointed by a massive change. I love the theme of a pet-based caster, and I'm disappointed in the nerf, but I'm far more disappointed in the community's reaction to it, and the general lack of empathy. But that's the internet for ya.

    Anything that leads to fewer pets in towns is something I'll be happy about. I would have preferred if ZOS did something on their end like make them invisible to other players in towns, but I'll take what I can get.

    agreed, they can force a dismount in the towns why not a pet despawn
  • Kingslayer513
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?
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    unfortunately due to the crit heal proc now for power surge there is a good chance the number of Twilights could increase
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?

    says who? i've not seen one post or vid to confirm this, in fact you only have to read the forums to see the opposite is in fct the case
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?

    says who? i've not seen one post or vid to confirm this, in fact you only have to read the forums to see the opposite is in fct the case

    Trouble with links... 94k dps pet sorc in scalebreaker pts...

    https://youtu.be/Y6mho25B63I
    Edited by Siohwenoeht on August 12, 2019 4:54AM
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  • Alienoutlaw
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?

    says who? i've not seen one post or vid to confirm this, in fact you only have to read the forums to see the opposite is in fct the case

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=#&ved=2ahUKEwjV2uGGxPzjAhVHs6wKHf6dDFQQwqsBMAB6BAgKEAU&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

    link is broken
  • Siohwenoeht
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?

    says who? i've not seen one post or vid to confirm this, in fact you only have to read the forums to see the opposite is in fct the case

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=#&ved=2ahUKEwjV2uGGxPzjAhVHs6wKHf6dDFQQwqsBMAB6BAgKEAU&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

    link is broken

    Fixed it.
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  • Kingslayer513
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    Matriarch is getting replaced by scamp and sorcs are doing crazy dps on PTS, what are y'all on about "pet sorc is dead"?

    says who? i've not seen one post or vid to confirm this, in fact you only have to read the forums to see the opposite is in fct the case

    Then you haven't been following that closely. Go lurk TRE a little to see what good players are parsing. Every magicka class is doing 97k+ basically, pet sorc included. Liko just put up a video showcasing pet sorc as well.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    a cheese dummy build with zaan's is hardly reflective of true trial/dungeon DPS where you actually have to take damage, heal, roll dodge and block, show 97k on a sunspire dragon and we'll talk
  • Kingslayer513
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    a cheese dummy build with zaan's is hardly reflective of true trial/dungeon DPS where you actually have to take damage, heal, roll dodge and block, show 97k on a sunspire dragon and we'll talk

    I really hope that's a joke
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