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34 Flame Crates, Zero Mounts

chuck-18_ESO
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Seriously. Not one. What did I do to make RNGesus hate me so much?
The Exclusionary Mandates of Maruhkite Selection: All Are Equal

1: That the Supreme Spirit Akatosh is of unitary essence, as proven by the monolinearity of Time.
1: That Shezarr the missing sibling is Singularly Misplaced and therefore Doubly Venerated.
1: That the protean substrate that informs all denial of (1) is the Aldmeri Taint.
1: That the Prophet Most Simian demonstrated that monothought begets Proper-Life.
1: That the purpose of Proper-Life is the Expungement of the Taint.
1: That the Arc of Time provides the mortal theater for the Sacred Expungement.
1: That Akatosh is Time is Proper-Life is Taint-Death.
  • KerinKor
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    Zenimax love whales.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Oh so many threads on this topic that we can refer the OP to ... :p
  • deadsheepb14_ESO
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    That's a lot of gems though. o:)
  • chuck-18_ESO
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    That's a lot of gems though. o:)

    Actually it was only 404. barely enough to get a mount. I've been unlucky before, but never this unlucky.
    The Exclusionary Mandates of Maruhkite Selection: All Are Equal

    1: That the Supreme Spirit Akatosh is of unitary essence, as proven by the monolinearity of Time.
    1: That Shezarr the missing sibling is Singularly Misplaced and therefore Doubly Venerated.
    1: That the protean substrate that informs all denial of (1) is the Aldmeri Taint.
    1: That the Prophet Most Simian demonstrated that monothought begets Proper-Life.
    1: That the purpose of Proper-Life is the Expungement of the Taint.
    1: That the Arc of Time provides the mortal theater for the Sacred Expungement.
    1: That Akatosh is Time is Proper-Life is Taint-Death.
  • DLM
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    How does it feel to waste money on pixels?
  • LukosCreyden
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    ZOS thanks you for your addiction
    Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.
  • MajBludd
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    30 crates? That sucks, but that's the game zos wants you to play.
    Too bad they dont do it like they did in the past and just put the mounts in the crown store.
  • Xarc
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    Buy more crates.
    @xarcs FR-EU-PC -
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    sorry for my english, it's not my native language, I'm french
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  • Bigevilpeter
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    Its your fault for supporting this scammy system, you have no one to blame but yourself.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Didn't you realize there was no guarantee for you to get one ?
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  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    lol haters gonna hate. It's OP's $$. He can spend it how he wants. Sorry for your luck OP!
  • FlipFlopFrog
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    For all our sake, please stop buying them! Loot boxes are a form of gambling, which is becoming a really big problem in the gaming industry. People are developing gambling addictions/ Mental health problems at ridiculously young ages. (my countries healthcare have opened the first ever gambling clinic specifically for young people!)

    I'm not against a game like Eso having a normal shop where you can buy cool appearance items with real money. But OP threw like £50/$60 approx on just a chance to get the item he wanted. It's that aspect of not knowing exactly what you're going to get, getting disappointed, and buying more crates until you finally get what you want which needs to go. I don't think they'll voluntarily remove it as it's a massive earner for them, so it needs to be boycotted until they remove it imo.
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  • TheUndeadAmulet
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    Sorry mate, but that's how they get you.

    Should be a good lesson though, don't waste your money on loot boxes. The best you can get is a nice mount which you will only be able to use for a decade more at most before the ESO servers are shut down. Instead, spend your money on something that is actually worth the money you spend it on. Maybe a new pair of headphones? Some speakers? A large amount of Doritos and mountain dew? The possibility's are endless!
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    nerf ping please
  • Razzledazzle_dar
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    Sadly it happens. I buy crates but rarely. I always assume I have to buy enough crates to get a ton of gems to then get one or two things I really want and never assume I'll actually pull something decent. I stay away from them most of the time. I agree with people who say it'd be great if they could just have a set price in crowns for everything instead of keeping the best stuff behind horribly-not-in-your-favor RNG.
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  • YaYaPineapple
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    Actually it was only 404. barely enough to get a mount. I've been unlucky before, but never this unlucky.

    So... you weren't just trying to get "A" mount, you were trying to get an APEX mount? APEX mounts (400 gem cost) only have around a 0.28% chance to drop from a crate. Not sure why you expected to get something that has less than a 1% drop rate from only 34 crates.

    If you've gotten APEX mounts from only 34 crates in the past, then you have been very lucky. Sounds like RNGesus actually loves you a lot, he just didn't love you quite as much this time.

    You DID get enough gems (404) to get ALL FOUR of the non-Apex mounts from the Fire Atronach crates. You could get the Senche Leopard, the Masked Bear, the Ice Wolf AND the Black Camel of Ill Omen... and still have 4 gems left over.

    Edited by YaYaPineapple on August 4, 2019 12:01PM
  • starkerealm
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    That's a lot of gems though. o:)

    Actually it was only 404. barely enough to get a mount. I've been unlucky before, but never this unlucky.

    That's rough. Last time I bought flame crates, I ended up with 600 gems and a bear out of 15. Ouch.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    The odds of getting a mount are about 2%. Which means the odds you do not get a mount are 98%. Chain that together 34 times:

    0.98 ^ 34 = 0.5031 = 50.31%

    Thus, the odds of not getting a mount after 34 crates is actually slighter higher than the odds of getting a mount.
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    For all our sake, please stop buying them! Loot boxes are a form of gambling, which is becoming a really big problem in the gaming industry. People are developing gambling addictions/ Mental health problems at ridiculously young ages. (my countries healthcare have opened the first ever gambling clinic specifically for young people!)

    I'm not against a game like Eso having a normal shop where you can buy cool appearance items with real money. But OP threw like £50/$60 approx on just a chance to get the item he wanted. It's that aspect of not knowing exactly what you're going to get, getting disappointed, and buying more crates until you finally get what you want which needs to go. I don't think they'll voluntarily remove it as it's a massive earner for them, so it needs to be boycotted until they remove it imo.

    Sorry you feel that way, but it's OP's $$ just like it is my $$. I am an adult. I can spend my $$ however I may choose. What a person thinks is a "waste of money" is different person to person. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy crates. As for:
    "People are developing gambling addictions/ Mental health problems at ridiculously young ages" this is unsubstantiated rhetoric and lacking any modicum of personal responsibility.
    If you don't wish to engage in the practice of crown crates, then by all means do not. But nobody has the right to tell others what to spend their money on.
  • YaYaPineapple
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    The odds of getting a mount are about 2%. Which means the odds you do not get a mount are 98%. Chain that together 34 times:

    0.98 ^ 34 = 0.5031 = 50.31%

    Thus, the odds of not getting a mount after 34 crates is actually slighter higher than the odds of getting a mount.

    That's for ANY mount, right? But OP wanted an APEX mount.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    With every game today, that has microstratification in them, there should be an enforced law (just like in some countries there are laws that forces cigarettes / smokes manufactures to place a big label on their products, that it is harmful for your health), to place this unskip-able "intro" when you boot the game 1st time:
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    I bought 4 when they first came out. Got a flame horse.



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    I was so mad because I wanted the wolf.
  • todokete
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    You got what you deserved for buying crates
  • Isaura
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    With every game today, that has microstratification in them, there should be an enforced law (just like in some countries there are laws that forces cigarettes / smokes manufactures to place a big label on their products, that it is harmful for your health), to place this unskip-able "intro" when you boot the game 1st time:

    Very interesting, everyone should watch this video before ZOS lock or delete this post (which is gonna happen). Oh and yeah, that loss of money is on you, you should never have bought crates.
  • Holycannoli
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    Sorry you feel that way, but it's OP's $$ just like it is my $$. I am an adult. I can spend my $$ however I may choose. What a person thinks is a "waste of money" is different person to person.

    But if you didn't get what you want you did waste your money.

    Loot boxes need to go. Add every item as directly purchasable at any time.
  • frostz417
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    That’s why you don’t buy clown crates. Waste of money lol
  • Starlock
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    Its your fault for supporting this scammy system, you have no one to blame but yourself.

    Yes, let’s blame the victim. Let’s blame the victims of companies who design predatory microtransactions that deliberatly manipulate human psychology for profit. It’s totally the victim’s fault that they’re exposed to con artistry in an entertainment medum thta used to lack such garbage. And it is also totally the victim’s fault thta legislators worldwide haven’t yet steppee up to regulate this crap as they need to be.
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    The odds of getting a mount are about 2%. Which means the odds you do not get a mount are 98%. Chain that together 34 times:

    0.98 ^ 34 = 0.5031 = 50.31%

    Thus, the odds of not getting a mount after 34 crates is actually slighter higher than the odds of getting a mount.

    That's for ANY mount, right? But OP wanted an APEX mount.

    Any apex mount. Strictly speaking, the actual chances of getting the specific Apex mount you want is slightly lower with the flame crates, because there are 7 apex rewards, instead of only 6. (Or 8 instead of 7 if the sweet roll counts. Can't remember if that's Apex or Radiant.)
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    Sorry you feel that way, but it's OP's $$ just like it is my $$. I am an adult. I can spend my $$ however I may choose. What a person thinks is a "waste of money" is different person to person.

    But if you didn't get what you want you did waste your money.

    Loot boxes need to go. Add every item as directly purchasable at any time.

    Not necessarily true. The OP (or anyone) may not have gotten what they were hoping for, but they may have gotten other items they liked, and thus, would not necessarily be a "waste of money". It's in the eye of the beholder. There are also those that don't necessarily want a specific item but do enjoy the random aspect of the loot drop. Individual choice.
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