What happened?

p00tx · August 2019

So, we got a little update "patch" on Xbox the other day, and now the game runs even worse than it was before, which was pretty bad. What did you guys do?

Kel · August 2019

Don't know, but whatever they did, they did it on ps4 NA as well....(video has foul language)

https://youtu.be/wDFkw2caS4E

Tried running vDSA today. Full of insane lag and weird glitches. We were getting one shot and seeing nothing. Bonfire was still burning but we were getting frozen. You can see I'm dead and somehow taking damage and getting healed, while none of my buttons work and I cant rez myself. We could not clear the second round because of it, and this group has cleared vDSA many, many times. There was literally nothing we could do but die.

Those performance updates CANNOT come fast enough. It's been needed for years.

snarkomatic · August 2019

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

Sandman929 · August 2019

p00tx wrote: »

So, we got a little update "patch" on Xbox the other day, and now the game runs even worse than it was before, which was pretty bad. What did you guys do?

They won't know what they did. And if they did know, they'll answer this in about a month.

p00tx · August 2019

Yeah, we were farming Mazz hm for Chudan Helm Motifs last night, and spent most of it playing the "guess where the invisible enemies are and where their AoE's are spawning" game. Nothing was loading in, and it was super frustrating. Same in vDoM just before that.

vSS was even worse. The off tank and I (ice cage healer) were taking insane amounts of dmg in the back during Lokkestiis fight from something that neither of us could see, and that shouldn't have even existed back there, given that we could clearly see where the ice atro cleave cones were, and were nowhere near them.

I haven't even been in Cyrodil all week because it's my first love and it'll just break my heart if it's completely unplayable.

It's starting to feel like Zos just wants to dumb down the game to a beginner level for the Candyland crowd and drive the end game PvE/PvP community out so they don't have to worry about that part of the game anymore.

p00tx · August 2019

Kel wrote: »

Don't know, but whatever they did, they did it on ps4 NA as well....(video has foul language)

https://youtu.be/wDFkw2caS4E

Tried running vDSA today. Full of insane lag and weird glitches. We were getting one shot and seeing nothing. Bonfire was still burning but we were getting frozen. You can see I'm dead and somehow taking damage and getting healed, while none of my buttons work and I cant rez myself. We could not clear the second round because of it, and this group has cleared vDSA many, many times. There was literally nothing we could do but die.

Those performance updates CANNOT come fast enough. It's been needed for years.

What...the actual heck...

You died to invisible enemies, before they should have even spawned in, while you were nowhere near their spawn points...

This game is a mess. I could understand ignoring one or two issues specific to one or two instances, for the sake of loading all of the fixes at once. But ALL of the content is broken right now. Why there hasn't been an actual effective emergency patch done by now is beyond me. I don't know why we keep doing this to ourselves...

snarkomatic · August 2019

I stepped away from the game for a little while, and picked up a different MMO to toy with in my newly-found spare time. I won't say which [lol] but it's the other AAA on console.

I went into nCR+2 the other night to help some guildies. Coming back to ESO was like being in a nightmare. Everything slow and sluggish, insane input delay, lagging like I'd never experienced in That Other Game (with even larger fights, more players, and better/more involved graphic feedback). Spells not firing off, or firing a whole 1-2sec after button press. Position lag. AoEs not showing up at all, or the usual placement nonsense of being hit outside of the telegraph.

It was insane, realizing what I had been putting up with all this time.

It's getting harder and harder to come back, when every "I'm back" experience involves awful bugs and unplayable B.S. like above -- especially when most of the issues seem to crop up in vet DLC content, which is pretty much all I even do anymore. /sigh.

BozzyTheDrummer · August 2019

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

p00tx · August 2019

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

Same here. Xbox NA, wired connection, gamer nerd speed upgrade internet package, Xbox One X...I've done everything I can do on my end to ensure I'm not potentially contributing to the issue, but I can barely move from point A to point B for 10-15 second increments at a time, every time I try to engage with something in game. The onset of every single add encounter nearly freezes the game for me, and all sounds stop entirely to suddenly flood in all at once after the 10-15 seconds of intense lag spike.

The spikes are happening during overland activities not involving add encounters too (like what you described), and going into populated areas is tantamount to frame rate suicide.

snarkomatic · August 2019

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

It's not you, it's ZoS.

MartiniDaniels · August 2019

Kel wrote: »

Don't know, but whatever they did, they did it on ps4 NA as well....(video has foul language)

Tried running vDSA today. Full of insane lag and weird glitches. We were getting one shot and seeing nothing. Bonfire was still burning but we were getting frozen. You can see I'm dead and somehow taking damage and getting healed, while none of my buttons work and I cant rez myself. We could not clear the second round because of it, and this group has cleared vDSA many, many times. There was literally nothing we could do but die.

Those performance updates CANNOT come fast enough. It's been needed for years.

Damn that recap from non-existent enemies

jadarock · August 2019

Play some other games and you quickly realize this games performance is unacceptable.
The degradation should never have been allowed to reach this point. ..
Zos should be ashamed of themselves

Stebarnz · August 2019

The ONLY thing that will make them listen is total boycott of crown store and eso + but too many fanboi's for that.

Androconium · August 2019

Stebarnz wrote: »

The ONLY thing that will make them listen is total boycott of crown store and eso + but too many fanboi's for that.

yes and yes.

Androconium · August 2019

p00tx wrote: »

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What...the actual heck...

You died to invisible enemies, before they should have even spawned in, while you were nowhere near their spawn points...

<snip>

This has been happening to me at dolmens for close to 2 years now (Australian tincan-work). I see red dots on the radar, but can't see any enemies on the ground. The only bar abilities that work are wall of elements and soultrap, I think.

My observation is that gameplay commences before the models and textures finish loading.

jadarock · August 2019

Agreed^^
Comes to the forums to get answers
Sees leading topic is about furnishings. ....
Instantly understands and loses all hope

p00tx · August 2019

jadarock wrote: »

Play some other games and you quickly realize this games performance is unacceptable.
The degradation should never have been allowed to reach this point. ..
Zos should be ashamed of themselves

I 100% agree. I've never seen anything like this in any other game, and it blows my mind that they let it go this long before deciding it was time to do something about it. I'm personally powering through until the first round of planned "fixes" to see if they're actually going to give it an honest effort to make things right, but if they don't deliver, I'm not going to keep banging my head against the wall. I've got better uses for my time and money than stuffing dollars down the pants of rich stock holders who only care about squeezing more money out of this game until there is nothing left to squeeze.

jainiadral · August 2019

Been getting weird stuff on PC-NA too without a patch. Last night was doubling night in Wrothgar. If I wasn't one of the most horribly sober people on the planet, I'd have thought I'd had a few too many

Sometimes an enemy I was fighting would seem to spawn a second one halfway inside its outline like at a wayshrine. Even the nametags doubled. I had ambient audio from a quest NPC start again just off sync. The second subtitle claimed it was my Eternal Guardian talking

I've never seen anything like this before in any game. Seriously bizarre.

I've had lots of invisble enemies spawn on me for the last several days in instanced areas in Wrothgar. I think it happened in nearly half of my encounters last night. Had a quest NPC vanish on me last night for 30 seconds. She showed up after I ran in circles until I got dizzy.

I'm pretty sure none of this is related to a client patch. It's not only endgame that's affected. Am thinking the megaserver hamsters have called a global strike. Toss 'em a carrot, ZOS

red_bird · August 2019

That video. Wow.

I've been experiencing more invisible enemies too. While we were being nerfed, enemies got a buff to their 'stealth feature'.

Kel · August 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

Don't know, but whatever they did, they did it on ps4 NA as well....(video has foul language)

Tried running vDSA today. Full of insane lag and weird glitches. We were getting one shot and seeing nothing. Bonfire was still burning but we were getting frozen. You can see I'm dead and somehow taking damage and getting healed, while none of my buttons work and I cant rez myself. We could not clear the second round because of it, and this group has cleared vDSA many, many times. There was literally nothing we could do but die.

Those performance updates CANNOT come fast enough. It's been needed for years.

Damn that recap from non-existent enemies

red_bird wrote: »

That video. Wow.

I've been experiencing more invisible enemies too. While we were being nerfed, enemies got a buff to their 'stealth feature'.

What's really weird is my guildmates saw me as "alive" when in the video you can clearly see me as quite dead.

Hands down the weirdest and most frustrating experience I've ever had in this game.

Somber97866 · August 2019

No they put patch notes out stating they fixed one thing but they broke 5 more in the process. But hey, in a year and a half they will fix the other five things they broke every month for the last three years.

bigdeal15 · August 2019

I am on pc and it has been horrible the last month or so, but tonight is the worst ever. Other players stuttering across the landscape. Horrible lag. And all this in overland areas like greenshade. it even happens to me fishing! Before the fish registers on the line it is off. Crazy and embarrassing performance for a game like this.

Aurielle · August 2019

p00tx wrote: »

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

Same here. Xbox NA, wired connection, gamer nerd speed upgrade internet package, Xbox One X...I've done everything I can do on my end to ensure I'm not potentially contributing to the issue, but I can barely move from point A to point B for 10-15 second increments at a time, every time I try to engage with something in game. The onset of every single add encounter nearly freezes the game for me, and all sounds stop entirely to suddenly flood in all at once after the 10-15 seconds of intense lag spike.

The spikes are happening during overland activities not involving add encounters too (like what you described), and going into populated areas is tantamount to frame rate suicide.

It’s happening on PS4 NA as well. I can’t use skills for several seconds after porting to wayshrines most of the time, and FPS is garbage. Elsweyr broke something. Performance wasn’t great before, but it also wasn’t dumpster fire level. This is dumpster fire level.

https://youtu.be/OclGFsm8uRI

jainiadral · August 2019

Aurielle wrote: »

p00tx wrote: »

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

Same here. Xbox NA, wired connection, gamer nerd speed upgrade internet package, Xbox One X...I've done everything I can do on my end to ensure I'm not potentially contributing to the issue, but I can barely move from point A to point B for 10-15 second increments at a time, every time I try to engage with something in game. The onset of every single add encounter nearly freezes the game for me, and all sounds stop entirely to suddenly flood in all at once after the 10-15 seconds of intense lag spike.

The spikes are happening during overland activities not involving add encounters too (like what you described), and going into populated areas is tantamount to frame rate suicide.

It’s happening on PS4 NA as well. I can’t use skills for several seconds after porting to wayshrines most of the time, and FPS is garbage. Elsweyr broke something. Performance wasn’t great before, but it also wasn’t dumpster fire level. This is dumpster fire level.

https://youtu.be/OclGFsm8uRI

Oh my god. Is that what loading screens are like on console? Yikes!

Sandman929 · August 2019

Aurielle wrote: »

p00tx wrote: »

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

Same here. Xbox NA, wired connection, gamer nerd speed upgrade internet package, Xbox One X...I've done everything I can do on my end to ensure I'm not potentially contributing to the issue, but I can barely move from point A to point B for 10-15 second increments at a time, every time I try to engage with something in game. The onset of every single add encounter nearly freezes the game for me, and all sounds stop entirely to suddenly flood in all at once after the 10-15 seconds of intense lag spike.

The spikes are happening during overland activities not involving add encounters too (like what you described), and going into populated areas is tantamount to frame rate suicide.

It’s happening on PS4 NA as well. I can’t use skills for several seconds after porting to wayshrines most of the time, and FPS is garbage. Elsweyr broke something. Performance wasn’t great before, but it also wasn’t dumpster fire level. This is dumpster fire level.

https://youtu.be/OclGFsm8uRI

That's a great clip, it's got it all, except the the frequent load screen where it stops loading and you have to relog. Console experience feels great.

Odovacar · August 2019

Kel wrote: »

Don't know, but whatever they did, they did it on ps4 NA as well....(video has foul language)

https://youtu.be/wDFkw2caS4E

Tried running vDSA today. Full of insane lag and weird glitches. We were getting one shot and seeing nothing. Bonfire was still burning but we were getting frozen. You can see I'm dead and somehow taking damage and getting healed, while none of my buttons work and I cant rez myself. We could not clear the second round because of it, and this group has cleared vDSA many, many times. There was literally nothing we could do but die.

Those performance updates CANNOT come fast enough. It's been needed for years.

Terrible lag ...almost some of the worst I've experienced before last night as well.

Donny_Vito · August 2019

Weird. We ran vSS two different times last night and didn't really have any issues. Xbox NA.

phileunderx2 · August 2019

My PS4 sub ran out in March and I did not renew. Did not buy Elsweyr either.

Aurielle · August 2019

jainiadral wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

p00tx wrote: »

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

I'm on xbox NA, would this be why I have been experiencing extreme FPS drops on almost every activity, even just using my mount to get to a wayshrine? I mean i'm on a wired connection and have great internet (not sure if this has anything to o with it, im no tech guru) but this past week and a half or so, everything has felt so laggy. I took an 8 month or so break from this game, and came back ab few weeks ago, but as of recently, its been terrible.

Same here. Xbox NA, wired connection, gamer nerd speed upgrade internet package, Xbox One X...I've done everything I can do on my end to ensure I'm not potentially contributing to the issue, but I can barely move from point A to point B for 10-15 second increments at a time, every time I try to engage with something in game. The onset of every single add encounter nearly freezes the game for me, and all sounds stop entirely to suddenly flood in all at once after the 10-15 seconds of intense lag spike.

The spikes are happening during overland activities not involving add encounters too (like what you described), and going into populated areas is tantamount to frame rate suicide.

It’s happening on PS4 NA as well. I can’t use skills for several seconds after porting to wayshrines most of the time, and FPS is garbage. Elsweyr broke something. Performance wasn’t great before, but it also wasn’t dumpster fire level. This is dumpster fire level.

https://youtu.be/OclGFsm8uRI

Oh my god. Is that what loading screens are like on console? Yikes!

LMAO, yes. I spend most of my time in load screens. It’s even better in Cyrodiil.

https://youtu.be/UNZaYa2Ekes

Load screens and blue screens remain the number one killer in Cyrodiil on PS4.

snarkomatic · August 2019

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Weird. We ran vSS two different times last night and didn't really have any issues. Xbox NA.

You're right, it is weird that you didn't have any issues in vSS. Grats on being the outlier these days lol.

Sandman929 · August 2019

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Weird. We ran vSS two different times last night and didn't really have any issues. Xbox NA.

With all the free time you don't waste in loadscreens, you could head on over to the nearest ICU and talk about how healthy you are.