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Did you forget about console?

SillyGT
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Is console every going to receive the bash nerfs?
  • Aurielle
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    Hopefully with Scalebreaker. Until then, my chars are officially on an extended hiatus from Cyrodiil. Basher cheese is ubiquitous and infuriating.
  • MurderMostFoul
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    My new theory is that they just didn't want to do the work required to push another patch through the certification process for console, so they decided to let us suffer with their broken bash necro design for a couple months after PC got a fix.

    Rather than tell us this, or any other reason, they haven't spoken a single word as to why console is getting this second-class treatment.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Y'all could still try and make this right by at least communicating with us at least once after we've asked for comment on this issue dozens of times.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • SillyGT
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    Hello @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA this a huge problem. Pvp on collnsole is unplayable because 1 out of 3 people are a Pummeling Goliaths. Why are we not in line with hot fixes and updates on pc? It’s not new dlc. PLEASE look into this, pvp as stated in other comments are not fun and entertaining in any way.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).
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  • MurderMostFoul
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    My new theory is that they just didn't want to do the work required to push another patch through the certification process for console, so they decided to let us suffer with their broken bash necro design for a couple months after PC got a fix.

    Rather than tell us this, or any other reason, they haven't spoken a single word as to why console is getting this second-class treatment.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Y'all could still try and make this right by at least communicating with us at least once after we've asked for comment on this issue dozens of times.
    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    So I was right?
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • Waffennacht
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    My new theory is that they just didn't want to do the work required to push another patch through the certification process for console, so they decided to let us suffer with their broken bash necro design for a couple months after PC got a fix.

    Rather than tell us this, or any other reason, they haven't spoken a single word as to why console is getting this second-class treatment.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Y'all could still try and make this right by at least communicating with us at least once after we've asked for comment on this issue dozens of times.
    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    So I was right?

    Technically probably yes. However I seriously doubt it was as simple as, "ah $&+# it - we'll do it later"

    Knowing PS and Microsoft - they require so much it's literally not logical to do it for every little thing
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  • Koolio
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).





    Hey everyone,

    We've seen your feedback and concerns about the Pummeling Goliath ability and the detrimental impact it is currently having in PvP content. As a result, we have some significant changes coming for the ability and other related mechanics in next week's incremental patch. Watch for full details in the patch notes on Monday. :smile:



    This was post for Pc users.


    We understand that this was overpowered. So we are going to let console users abuse it for a little longer for the sake of selling the expansion.
  • MurderMostFoul
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    My new theory is that they just didn't want to do the work required to push another patch through the certification process for console, so they decided to let us suffer with their broken bash necro design for a couple months after PC got a fix.

    Rather than tell us this, or any other reason, they haven't spoken a single word as to why console is getting this second-class treatment.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Y'all could still try and make this right by at least communicating with us at least once after we've asked for comment on this issue dozens of times.
    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    So I was right?

    Technically probably yes. However I seriously doubt it was as simple as, "ah $&+# it - we'll do it later"

    Knowing PS and Microsoft - they require so much it's literally not logical to do it for every little thing

    I know it all comes down to resource allocation, but I would hope that they would value giving console players more fair treatment and hence spend whatever time/manpower was necessary to fix the stupidly overpowered bash necro for us as well.

    To acknowledge that it was so bad that it required a hotfix, but to only give the fix to PC players and force console players to live with ZOS's mistake for another two months is just a slap in the face to a huge portion of their community.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • SneaK
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    That was so hard to say eh ZOS
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  • ccmedaddy
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    Stop 👏 giving 👏 money 👏 to 👏 this 👏 joke 👏 of a 👏 company
  • frostz417
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    You’re kidding me? We have to deal with this crap for another month?
    Pc has had their fix A MONTH AGO.
    SO NOW CONSOLE HAS TO SUFFER THROUGH THIS CRAP LONGER! Are you that careless and out of touch with the game that you just screw console aside. Shows your lack of priorities. Bet if it wasn’t the crownstore issue you’d fix it ASAP.
    Bravo ZOS bravo, you never fail to come up with more ways to *** everyone off
    Edited by frostz417 on August 1, 2019 6:58PM
  • frostz417
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    SneaK wrote: »
    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    That was so hard to say eh ZOS

    Yea only took them a damn month to tell us we have to wait another month for this to be fixed. Good work zos. Screw us console folk.
    Edited by frostz417 on August 1, 2019 6:57PM
  • Sandman929
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    Thanks for the ever so timely information. Top notch communications here.
  • Aurielle
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    I had a bad feeling the fix would be pushed ahead to the next DLC. Guess I won’t be logging in much over the next month...

    I really wish that the PTS was an actual testing server and not a glorified preview server yielding few changes before a patch goes live. Pummeling Goliath should have never launched in the state that it did. Any developer with an even basic understanding of how PVP works in this game should have seen its potential for abuse and listened to player feedback. But no... And now, thanks to the lengthy patch certification process on console, we’re stuck with this completely broken skill for ANOTHER month. Ridiculous.

    My money is officially going to other games this month. I’m also kicking myself for not cancelling my sub before it auto-renewed a few days ago.
    Edited by Aurielle on August 1, 2019 8:34PM
  • DrSweetazz
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    What absolute garbage News.... How can you guys be okay with this as a company?
  • kaithuzar
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    Did anyone else read the title as:
    “Did you forget about Dre?”
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  • KingExecration
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    They haven’t got enough sales for necro on console so they’re gonna hold out another month for the nerf. Typical Zo$.
  • frostz417
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    This is such a joke. Bash has literally ruined PvP on Xbox na, so nice seeing this companies priorities.
    Edited by frostz417 on August 4, 2019 12:26AM
  • SillyGT
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    More and more people are jumping to this bash meta. Pvp on console is unbelievable because every other person you fight is a pummeling Goliath. Really this is a huge problem it’s not an enjoyable experience. Countless people are legitimately quitting the game because how bad of a problem it is.
  • ChunkyCat
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    If console users ate more tacos, maybe ZoS would pay more attention to them.
  • TheBonesXXX
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    The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

    Reminds me of the first few times bash got nerfed.
  • BaiterOfZergs
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    At this point the pvp community in eso has proven over the years that they’ll exploit anything if given the chance to. It’s Zos fault but it’s also the fault of the people who can’t help themselves and choose to exploit things.
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  • Lokey0024
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    SillyGT wrote: »
    More and more people are jumping to this bash meta. Pvp on console is unbelievable because every other person you fight is a pummeling Goliath. Really this is a huge problem it’s not an enjoyable experience. Countless people are legitimately quitting the game because how bad of a problem it is.

    Yea they're running around with 10 healers and 3 bash bros. Kinda ruining everyone's fun.
    Edited by Lokey0024 on August 5, 2019 2:36AM
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Look, al off August is a pathetic date. Im hardly upset with them. Im more ticked off that we have thousands of players telling them it's ok by throwing money at thier feet.
  • Aurielle
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    SillyGT wrote: »
    More and more people are jumping to this bash meta. Pvp on console is unbelievable because every other person you fight is a pummeling Goliath. Really this is a huge problem it’s not an enjoyable experience. Countless people are legitimately quitting the game because how bad of a problem it is.

    Yup. It’s dumb AF, and I’m not playing in Cyro again (or playing ESO, period) until it’s fixed.

    svLCKZp.jpg

    This guy was hitting me on average for 6k every 0.5 seconds on a healer with 35k phys/mag resistance. By the time I broke free of his stun, I was dead. Now imagine the same thing on an 18k resistance damage dealer in light or medium armour...
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    SillyGT wrote: »
    More and more people are jumping to this bash meta. Pvp on console is unbelievable because every other person you fight is a pummeling Goliath. Really this is a huge problem it’s not an enjoyable experience. Countless people are legitimately quitting the game because how bad of a problem it is.

    Yup. It’s dumb AF, and I’m not playing in Cyro again (or playing ESO, period) until it’s fixed.

    svLCKZp.jpg

    This guy was hitting me on average for 6k every 0.5 seconds on a healer with 35k phys/mag resistance. By the time I broke free of his stun, I was dead. Now imagine the same thing on an 18k resistance damage dealer in light or medium armour...

    Ive seen 10k
  • Kel
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    If console users ate more tacos, maybe ZoS would pay more attention to them.

    I'm doing my part.

    PS4 taco eater here.


    On topic, yeah, I've been taking a PvP break and doing PvE almost exclusively. The number of bash necros are ridiculous.

    Unfortunately, that still comes with a boatload of issues.
    Edited by Kel on August 5, 2019 6:12PM
  • frostz417
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    SillyGT wrote: »
    More and more people are jumping to this bash meta. Pvp on console is unbelievable because every other person you fight is a pummeling Goliath. Really this is a huge problem it’s not an enjoyable experience. Countless people are legitimately quitting the game because how bad of a problem it is.

    Yup. It’s dumb AF, and I’m not playing in Cyro again (or playing ESO, period) until it’s fixed.

    svLCKZp.jpg

    This guy was hitting me on average for 6k every 0.5 seconds on a healer with 35k phys/mag resistance. By the time I broke free of his stun, I was dead. Now imagine the same thing on an 18k resistance damage dealer in light or medium armour...

    Ive seen 10k

    Highest ive been hit by is 12k...
  • Waffennacht
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    I've been entirely focused on inventory management.

    And now I wish to add:

    I'm an Xbox console player - let's compare the competition

    BDO
    ..............
    Um.........
    ..............

    Ok, now I'll compare it to my last purchased game: Anthem

    .........

    Hrm....

    As an Xbox player I think ESO is top notch

    I also realize as an Xbox player I really got jack to choose from.
    Edited by Waffennacht on August 5, 2019 6:38PM
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
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  • frostz417
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    I've been entirely focused on inventory management.

    And now I wish to add:

    I'm an Xbox console player - let's compare the competition

    BDO
    ..............
    Um.........
    ..............

    Ok, now I'll compare it to my last purchased game: Anthem

    .........

    Hrm....

    As an Xbox player I think ESO is top notch

    I also realize as an Xbox player I really got jack to choose from.

    Top notch. Lmao, it’s only good because it’s carried by the elder scrolls title and there’s absolutely 0 competition. If there was actual competition this game would be on the bottom.
    This joke of a game is the last thing from top notch.
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