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if the plants and the trees are sacred to the bosmer what do they eat, animals? Fish? so they are not vegetarians does that make them just plane carnivores or canabiles?
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Erelah✭✭✭✭Green pact makes them cannibals. one of the divines (Y'ffre) told them they have to eat the enemies they slay. (The dead person's family may help as well). Those who wanted to eat their veggies and keep their shape shifting powers were all killed and sealed away (rumor is they had children with non mer as well).
In modern times if a Bosmer wants to be a farmer in Valenwood the price is steal death. They can import bows made from wood from other areas. They can also apparently live in houses made from wood from other areas. They cannot cut down the trees themselves and if they eat a pineapple or blueberry that is grown in Valenwood, the price remains death.
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✭✭✭✭✭The bosmer of Valenwood are indeed 100% carnivores. It's why many outsiders find their food strange and hard to digest
Even their "tobacco" is animals. They smoke crushed bugs!
They are also known for being cannibals, because the Green Pact has this part called the Meat Mandate, which states that they need to eat their enemies that they kill within 3 days.
Though the cannibalistic part has diminished by the time of the second era (The time of ESO), and is usually done by traditionals, wilder clans and more remote villages. Or only in ritualistic and ceremonial purposes by the more "civilised" bosmer.
They are perfectly able to use or eat plants and use wood that comes from outside Valenwood, because only Valenwood is sacred and part of the Green Pact. Plants that have fallen and is considered "dead" is also fine to use inside Valenwood. For example, if an animal causes some flowers from a tree to fall down to the ground, then the bosmer can use them. Because they did not harm the plant themselves, it was already dead.
Their houses are also "sung" out from the trees and are living structures. So even if their houses are made out of wood, the trees has not been harmed to make them.
And now I better stop before this rambling becomes a complete info about bosmer.Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on July 29, 2019 5:22PM[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If you are wondering what they use to make fires, it's animal fat and coal whenever available. Because they don't cut down trees, wooden objects are rare in Valenwood but you will sometimes see Woodelfs use wooden items they found (or stole) somewhere.
Everything they make is either leather, bone, ceramic or a tree grown into a specific shape. The Bosmer don't use stone or metal either unless they import it, mainly because they don't have the means to obtain these materials easily. It's entirely possible that they don't even have wheels and use rivers and cattle exclusively for transport as I just don't see many possibilities for them to actually make wheels with their limited resources. Besides, wheels need proper roads and the Bosmer don't maintain their roads at all. Only because of the Aldmeri Dominion there are actually proper roads in Valenwood.Edited by Ratzkifal on July 29, 2019 5:36PMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
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✭If you are wondering what they use to make fires, it's animal fat and coal
Blasphemy!!! How dare they burn fossilized plants!...whenever available. Because they don't cut down trees, wooden objects are rare in Valenwood but you will sometimes see Woodelfs use wooden items they found (or stole) somewhere.
Everything they make is either leather, bone, ceramic or a tree grown into a specific shape. The Bosmer don't use stone or metal either unless they import it, mainly because they don't have the means to obtain these materials easily. It's entirely possible that they don't even have wheels and use rivers and cattle exclusively for transport as I just don't see many possibilities for them to actually make wheels with their limited resources. Besides, wheels need proper roads and the Bosmer don't maintain their roads at all. Only because of the Aldmeri Dominion there are actually proper roads in Valenwood.
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Yeah, everything that's -not- a plant. Deer, fish, bugs, snakes, khajiit, birds, pigs, bats, maggots, cows, argonians, chicken and the occasional "long pig"...gpkreutzerub17_ESO wrote: »if the plants and the trees are sacred to the bosmer what do they eat, animals? Fish?
Also a lot of animal products like milk, eggs, cheeses, fish roe...
Pure carnivores, yeah, And cannibals besides. The "green pact" decrees the first, the "meat mandate" the second!gpkreutzerub17_ESO wrote: »so they are not vegetarians does that make them just plane carnivores or canabiles?
All assuming they are devout followers of the green pact of course!
Its a bit like RL religious observances... some believe strongly, others... especially on the border regions of valenwood... not so much.
Or make them in composite contruction from bone plates and horn, just like the mongols I presume.They can import bows made from wood from other areas.
Or in houses made from -living wood-, shaping the tree into a bulbous room to call their home.They can also apparently live in houses made from wood from other areas.
And as has been said, any wood that falls off on its own or through storm or lightning strike or whatever is fair game. Note that this applies to their farm animals as well! So, if one of their tame mammoths eats the greass... that's all right, because the mammopths have no pact with the green. And if it were to accidentally push down a tree... well, as long as no bosmer told it to, that would likely still be okay, though getting dengerously close to iffyness (See "Pact Advocate" quest in Grahtwood).
...and I presume dried dung, like in many historical instances of fires in non-forested areas. Likely also feathers and animal fur shaved off before tanning a skin come to think og it, unless they used that as bedding.If you are wondering what they use to make fires, it's animal fat and coal whenever available.
Guess we should count ourselves lucky not to have full sensual immersion gaming, the smell would likely have been something... "feeding the fire" indeed!
Yeah on the metal, not quite on the stone. Many of their homebuilt weapons are stone! As are occasional altars, fireplace linings, roughly paved footpaths through the woods, and up living treehouse ramps! But that's as far as it goes for their usage of stone, as any further construction might need wooden supports which would be a no-no for any green pacters...The Bosmer don't use stone or metal either unless they import it, mainly because they don't have the means to obtain these materials easily.
They -might- use some naturally occuring metals for ornamentation purposes... or better said, might have in days past, until they figured out they can trade those useless yellow and grey-white shiny rocks for good steel and such.2 -
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I realize that Faendal (the Bosmer who can become one of your first followers) lives in Riverwood in Skyrim, but does anyone find it realllllllllllllllllly funny that he works at a lumber mill regardless?0 -
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✭✭✭SidraWillowsky wrote: »Semi-related-
I realize that Faendal (the Bosmer who can become one of your first followers) lives in Riverwood in Skyrim, but does anyone find it realllllllllllllllllly funny that he works at a lumber mill regardless?
One of the woodworking hirelings is a Bosmer who writes the player daily regarding difficulties and tensions in living a life in accordance with the Green Pact"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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✭✭✭✭✭SidraWillowsky wrote: »Semi-related-
I realize that Faendal (the Bosmer who can become one of your first followers) lives in Riverwood in Skyrim, but does anyone find it realllllllllllllllllly funny that he works at a lumber mill regardless?
Not really. He lives in Skyrim afterall, so it's fully possible he was born there. Same with his parents.
A lot of bosmer are born outside Valenwood and don't follow nor know much about the traditions and customs there, including the Green Pact.Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on July 29, 2019 6:35PM[Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!2 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Everything that comes from a hunted animal has to be consumed or used. Hides and bones are used to make furniture, clothes, armor and weapons. Bows are sometimes made from horn. Spider silk for robes, and so on.
Alchemy is limited to pact-friendly ingredients, too.
Rotmeth and Dark meat beer, the fermented meat booze, is probably the most disgusting booze in all of Nirn. Jagga has fermented pigs milk as part of it's ingredients, so likely a close second on the gross scale. They also use pure honey mead, which is likely the only drink that doesn't cause a visitor to wretch.0 -
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Yeah on the metal, not quite on the stone. Many of their homebuilt weapons are stone! As are occasional altars, fireplace linings, roughly paved footpaths through the woods, and up living treehouse ramps! But that's as far as it goes for their usage of stone, as any further construction might need wooden supports which would be a no-no for any green pacters...The Bosmer don't use stone or metal either unless they import it, mainly because they don't have the means to obtain these materials easily.
They -might- use some naturally occuring metals for ornamentation purposes... or better said, might have in days past, until they figured out they can trade those useless yellow and grey-white shiny rocks for good steel and such.
Well, they don't use large stones anyway and have no masons. They do pick up stones and use them to build these altars or as mortar to grind down whatever needs grinding except for grain of course.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
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✭This is the reason why after going through AD quest line and learning about their lore I immediately race changed my only bosmer to redgaurd.Edited by r34lian on July 29, 2019 7:40PM2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton0 -
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Yes, also like various real life religions its various degrees how close you follow them, some orthodox are very strict and demand others to follow this like the Bosmer in Grathwood who was angry on a Khajiit because he ate an flower, he would not use wood even if imported.SidraWillowsky wrote: »Semi-related-
I realize that Faendal (the Bosmer who can become one of your first followers) lives in Riverwood in Skyrim, but does anyone find it realllllllllllllllllly funny that he works at a lumber mill regardless?
One of the woodworking hirelings is a Bosmer who writes the player daily regarding difficulties and tensions in living a life in accordance with the Green Pact
Others are happy to let others do the dirty work, kind of like Hindus who use animal produce other has made.
then you have the very common lip service, going to church twice a year or don't drink alcohol during Ramadan.
Overlap a bit with the idiots, can easy imagine loads of Bosmer eating and drinking various stuff, vine don't looks like an plant so ok
North in Reaper March its an Bosmer tribe planning to eat an mages wife as he messed up his work. This however is more an punishment.Grinding just make you go in circles.
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Yes, also like various real life religions its various degrees how close you follow them, some orthodox are very strict and demand others to follow this like the Bosmer in Grathwood who was angry on a Khajiit because he ate an flower, he would not use wood even if imported.SidraWillowsky wrote: »Semi-related-
I realize that Faendal (the Bosmer who can become one of your first followers) lives in Riverwood in Skyrim, but does anyone find it realllllllllllllllllly funny that he works at a lumber mill regardless?
One of the woodworking hirelings is a Bosmer who writes the player daily regarding difficulties and tensions in living a life in accordance with the Green Pact
Others are happy to let others do the dirty work, kind of like Hindus who use animal produce other has made.
then you have the very common lip service, going to church twice a year or don't drink alcohol during Ramadan.
Overlap a bit with the idiots, can easy imagine loads of Bosmer eating and drinking various stuff, vine don't looks like an plant so ok
North in Reaper March its an Bosmer tribe planning to eat an mages wife as he messed up his work. This however is more an punishment.
Did a major in religious studies in Montréal, and a few various local Buddhist monasteries had some sort of study program agreements with McGill University
so would meet and hang out with monks -- encountered some interesting things
had various classes with one of them, made friends with him
one day, when class ended early we went to Tim Hortons for donuts and stuff
another day, when class ended on time, he came along with me and a few grad students but ate nothing while the rest of us got something
it is a rule for monks to not eat after noon, and something as simple as a "bonus, out of class early" for me was the discerning qualifier for whether or not he could enjoy a snack with us
was also told a story of a Buddhist master from...think it was a Vietnamese lineage iirc?
anyway -- he caused a stir when he came over on a teaching tour in North America,
the temple took him out for food and he ordered a steak
then as he ate it, he lectured them on how, due to the toil of impoverished foreign workers and the damage done to insects and soil-dwelling creatures along with disruption of larger wildlife in farming operations, their own cups of tea were basically like drinking cups of blood
also, chain-smoking of tobacco cigarettes is another habit that has shown up among the robed
really appreciate some of the touches taken to express the nuances of Bosmeri culture in a similar manner
my main/most played old character was a Bosmer Nightblade Thief, set up for small sneak radius and magicka regen for spamming Cloak to dodge guards xD
clearly not greatly observant of the Green Pact due to being a bit of a Skooma addict
but also make a point of carrying the various Shellbug and Gnat pipes because it is interesting to me conceptually that a people who religiously avoid harming plants grind up and smoke bugs instead
tho am still a real hard sell on food made from insects irl"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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