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Volen and PvP PLEASE REVISE THIS

xandervalo
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I don't see a purpose in getting volen and dying to the larger zerg which also has way way more people online ,Emp, and all scrolls valid as "volen" is supposed to "help". I think it needs to be reworked, the faction with emp should not be allowed to pick it up in the first place it is just pointless. They have emp all the scrolls and the larger zerg. can this please be reworked and made useful otherwise remove it? It makes myself and many others want to log off. who the [removed profanity] wants to go up against a large zerg with emp and scrolls with volen all at once thats nuts??!? Am i crazy or what thats just completely senseless just take volen out its garbage in its current form of usability. I am going mad over here?!?!? thanks sheo for your joke of a help.
Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 29, 2019 5:15PM
  • KillsAllElves
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    xandervalo wrote: »
    I don't see a purpose in getting volen and dying to the larger zerg which also has way way more people online ,Emp, and all scrolls valid as "volen" is supposed to "help". I think it needs to be reworked, the faction with emp should not be allowed to pick it up in the first place it is just pointless. They have emp all the scrolls and the larger zerg. can this please be reworked and made useful otherwise remove it? It makes myself and many others want to log off. who the f*** wants to go up against a large zerg with emp and scrolls with volen all at once thats nuts??!? Am i crazy or what thats just completely senseless just take volen out its garbage in its current form of usability. I am going mad over here?!?!? thanks sheo for your joke of a help.

    Nope! Leave it as is.

    Easy solution = stay away from volendrung and the group near it.

    The artifact brought a new dynamic to cyrodiil with little game play availability. There should be more artifacts.

    I agree the faction with emp shouldnt weild it.
  • xandervalo
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    xandervalo wrote: »
    I don't see a purpose in getting volen and dying to the larger zerg which also has way way more people online ,Emp, and all scrolls valid as "volen" is supposed to "help". I think it needs to be reworked, the faction with emp should not be allowed to pick it up in the first place it is just pointless. They have emp all the scrolls and the larger zerg. can this please be reworked and made useful otherwise remove it? It makes myself and many others want to log off. who the f*** wants to go up against a large zerg with emp and scrolls with volen all at once thats nuts??!? Am i crazy or what thats just completely senseless just take volen out its garbage in its current form of usability. I am going mad over here?!?!? thanks sheo for your joke of a help.

    Nope! Leave it as is.

    Easy solution = stay away from volendrung and the group near it.

    The artifact brought a new dynamic to cyrodiil with little game play availability. There should be more artifacts.

    I agree the faction with emp shouldnt weild it.

    Yes, the faction with emp should not wield it thats the main point of my post.
  • regime211
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    This should be the last of your worries. This games bad performance has completely killed the game.
  • xandervalo
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    regime211 wrote: »
    This should be the last of your worries. This games bad performance has completely killed the game.

    Meh, yes but this Volen situation makes it far worse.
  • ItsMeToo
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    Stupid things in the game that just cause more lag. Zos said they wanted to split more people into smaller groups in different zones in cyro to help reduce lag in the game. Well this didn't work. It makes more people gather closer together in one area.

    Nirn just tilted and everything is falling into Oblivion.

    … and what are those new "Stone Circles" for with more useless NPCs? Something to cause more lag that most people just avoid as they ride to the next keep/resource.

    You might just as well bring back the deer and bugs. We need more lag in the game.
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  • BackAndAngry
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    They promoted it as with new content for pvp
    They don’t play pvp
    They don’t have decent ideas
    They got the feedback from pts

    Under zos logic there will be new articraps for sure real soon


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  • Qbiken
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    Should be removed for sure
  • Heimpai
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    It’s extremely fun to use and go against but when one side has emp 2x the pop and the hammer..well then it’s time to play another game
  • WoppaBoem
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    I love it, except as the broad accepted opinion and should be changed this DLC, the emp alliance should not be able to pick it up. For the rest very nice dynamic, best addition to Cyro in a long time :)
    Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only
  • fred4
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    IMO RNG in PvP is wrong and such artefacts should not exist there. They cheapen your wins, when using them, and p off the opposing faction in equal measure.
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    just go else where, go behind lines and attack where they are not, as the rest of the alliance will go with hammer it leaves keeps unguarded
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • Deathlord92
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    Sometimes a solo player or small group picks it up and destroys zerglings with it 😂
  • Kel
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    … and what are those new "Stone Circles" for with more useless NPCs? Something to cause more lag that most people just avoid as they ride to the next keep/resource.

    You might just as well bring back the deer and bugs. We need more lag in the game.

    Those stone circles are where the hammer spawns in.
  • xandervalo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    Stupid things in the game that just cause more lag. Zos said they wanted to split more people into smaller groups in different zones in cyro to help reduce lag in the game. Well this didn't work. It makes more people gather closer together in one area.

    Nirn just tilted and everything is falling into Oblivion.

    … and what are those new "Stone Circles" for with more useless NPCs? Something to cause more lag that most people just avoid as they ride to the next keep/resource.

    You might just as well bring back the deer and bugs. We need more lag in the game.

    yeah and honestly can we just remove all pve garbo from cyro and reduce the lag, please lower cap as wel of players or make more non-cp servers its just too much
  • xandervalo
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    Heimpai wrote: »
    It’s extremely fun to use and go against but when one side has emp 2x the pop and the hammer..well then it’s time to play another game

    exactly my point its stupid and ruins pvp then i just get offline.
  • Kagukan
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    Overall I like the hammer. It adds some excitement.
  • p00tx
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    I can't speak for PvP on PC or PS4, but on Xbox it is incredibly dynamic. Yes, we do have notorious zerg alliances for each campaign, and yes they do tend to like to swarm the map when they have the population advantage. This happens multiple times during the day, and almost always swings back the other direction at some point. As a long time PvPer though, I can say that I usually just let them have it if they're that determined. Fighting with lesser numbers does nothing but waste soul gems and AP and our limited free time. When they do their zerg-blob derp swarm, I just go over to a relatively empty part of the map and pick fights with solo players or small groups until the blob has completed its "super OP domination" objective. They usually get bored by that point and move on, since there is literally nothing left for them to do, then we can all get back to wandering the objectives looking for fights with real players and getting our scrolls and home keeps back.

    When one of these blobs gets their hands on Swollendhong (as we affectionately refer to it), it just makes this process move faster, which is ultimately less time wasted while they swarm.
    Edited by p00tx on July 29, 2019 9:55PM
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  • Surak73
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    Sometimes a solo player or small group picks it up and destroys zerglings with it 😂

    Yes, but more often than not some player who doesn't have any idea picks it up, goes against the enemy feeling invincible, and ten seconds later a whole zerg of the enemy is running with the hammer wreaking havoc on remaining keeps...
  • xandervalo
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    Surak73 wrote: »
    Sometimes a solo player or small group picks it up and destroys zerglings with it 😂

    Yes, but more often than not some player who doesn't have any idea picks it up, goes against the enemy feeling invincible, and ten seconds later a whole zerg of the enemy is running with the hammer wreaking havoc on remaining keeps...

    precisely
  • KillsAllElves
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    Milaedy wrote: »

    That was the whole point of the artifact, its working as intended.
  • xandervalo
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    that
    Milaedy wrote: »

    That was the whole point of the artifact, its working as intended.

    thats the only part that seems balance not when an emp faction picks it up
  • Mr_Walker
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    I like it, we nabbed a home scroll back from Arrius yesterday while all the zerglings were chasing the shiny.

    Plus, it shakes the map up a bit.
  • The_Lex
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    Neat idea, poor execution - my opinion.
  • xandervalo
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    The_Lex wrote: »
    Neat idea, poor execution - my opinion.

    just what im saying too
  • TheBonesXXX
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    xandervalo wrote: »
    I don't see a purpose in getting volen and dying to the larger zerg which also has way way more people online ,Emp, and all scrolls valid as "volen" is supposed to "help". I think it needs to be reworked, the faction with emp should not be allowed to pick it up in the first place it is just pointless. They have emp all the scrolls and the larger zerg. can this please be reworked and made useful otherwise remove it? It makes myself and many others want to log off. who the f*** wants to go up against a large zerg with emp and scrolls with volen all at once thats nuts??!? Am i crazy or what thats just completely senseless just take volen out its garbage in its current form of usability. I am going mad over here?!?!? thanks sheo for your joke of a help.

    Nope! Leave it as is.

    Easy solution = stay away from volendrung and the group near it.

    The artifact brought a new dynamic to cyrodiil with little game play availability. There should be more artifacts.

    I agree the faction with emp shouldnt weild it.

    The dynamic of aiding more scrubby bumpkins gather up in mass numbers to run down the few small scalers this game has left?

    Or for the same gang of button smashing waddlewumps to create more lag?
  • darkblue5
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    It creates good better PvP after it despawns *cough* it doesn't sometimes *cough*. If you avoid it then there's some good PvP. Without it people tend to zerg on bridges and gates endlessly.
    Edit for strike through instead of italic
    Edited by darkblue5 on August 5, 2019 4:58AM
  • BoraxFlux
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    It is a twice headed beast: You have to have a significant army with it, or it will change owner in no time and turn against you.
    If you have a party with it you, will lose attack and defense strength elsewhere. The hammer can't be everywhere, sometimes you will lose more then you win. I have the feeling it is a potential chance for the third alliance when hammer gets into play.

    The hammer throws in a change of breath and tactics.

    Primetime PC EU NoCP, a while ago, This could have happened with EP or AD just as well:
    DC had Volendrung and advanced into AD territory, EP went straight into DC territory.
    ESOhammer.png

  • Qbiken
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    I say remove it, but if it's going to stay, remove the PvDoor features of the weapon (aka it can no longer break structures)
  • ItsMeToo
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    I say remove it, but if it's going to stay, remove the PvDoor features of the weapon (aka it can no longer break structures)

    and randomly turn everyone near it into cheese... even the holder of the weapon
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
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