Ice Sets

regime211 · July 2019

So can we get more Ice sets? And no don't start listing what we already have. Zos can definitely introduce more with every DLC. If not can we get a buff to winterborn? Since they have already reworked some old sets?

_Ahala_ · July 2019

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

redspecter23 · July 2019

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

Agreed. All the sets in the world won't mean much if frost is a sub par dps skill to begin with. You have to make up the loss between frost and fire/lightning before the set makes a difference compared to something like burning spellweave.

They can either push frost as a dps damage type (which I don't think can work currently) or focus on the support/tank aspect with sets that push that playstyle which doesn't really help frost from a dps standpoint.

Basically, as long as ZOS feels frost is the "tank/cc" element, you won't see it perform for dps.

idk · July 2019

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

Zos is not likely to do much for the DPS part of the Frost staff as they chose to make it into an inferior tanking weapon so it is not ideal for anything.

Nemesis7884 · July 2019

some more ice sets would b be nice...that are not only tanking but can maybe used for both

luen79rwb17_ESO · July 2019

I'm holding onto all the frost staves I get from sets because I'm sure we will see them shine in the future!

LeHarrt91 · July 2019

I would love some pure dps ice sets. Especially a monster set, im sick of flame damage sets.

ImSoPro · July 2019

Winterborn doesn’t really need a buff for the sake of being buffed. It’ll get buffed get used by everyone then get complaints then get nerfed. So let’s leave that set exactly where it’s at, because it performs well. We do need more ice sets though because the selection is extremely limited.

DreadDaedroth · July 2019

They should make the tanking passive of frost staff separeted from the others and introduce something else in tri focus for ice staves that way one could decide which role to give to frost damage.

Wuuffyy · July 2019

idk wrote: »

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

Zos is not likely to do much for the DPS part of the Frost staff as they chose to make it into an inferior tanking weapon so it is not ideal for anything.

Lol it is not inferior and is in fact supplementary with S&B and MANY tanks now use it. Stop trying to Rp and either use one of the two other elements you have or accept the slight decrease in dps like my werewolf has to.

Grianasteri · July 2019

I definitely agree that ESO requires more frost based armour sets.

If you think about how many sets there are in the game from all sources, frost based sets are probably not that fare behind, if at all, the poison/disease ans shock based sets, which of course fire based sets everywhere you look.

But I guess as others have said, the dps potential of these is extremely limited and they fall into the tanking/support roles more readily. That's the bit that frustrates.

Having said all that, I certainly enjoy my Nord - Warden - frost tank!

Nemesis7884 · July 2019

i think they might be cautios so that minor maim doesnt become too abundent..

zvavi · July 2019

If they buff the damage side of frost staves, pvp will suffer. As long as they don't balance pve and pvp separately, and ice staff has tanking aspect, it will never deal damage

KillsAllElves · July 2019

regime211 wrote: »

So can we get more Ice sets? And no don't start listing what we already have. Zos can definitely introduced more with every DLC. If not can we get a buff to winterborn? Since they have already reworked some old sets?

Ice sets with no legitimate ice mage, brilliant!

regime211 · July 2019

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

Preach!

regime211 · July 2019

redspecter23 wrote: »

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

Agreed. All the sets in the world won't mean much if frost is a sub par dps skill to begin with. You have to make up the loss between frost and fire/lightning before the set makes a difference compared to something like burning spellweave.

They can either push frost as a dps damage type (which I don't think can work currently) or focus on the support/tank aspect with sets that push that playstyle which doesn't really help frost from a dps standpoint.

Basically, as long as ZOS feels frost is the "tank/cc" element, you won't see it perform for dps.

Well just like every other adjustment they have made, they definitely CAN do this. It's a matter of WILL they. I love the ice element and I got a ice mage that does hit hard. But I would like it to be brought fourth with other DPS and deal some real damage.

regime211 · July 2019

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

I would love some pure dps ice sets. Especially a monster set, im sick of flame damage sets.

Foreal because Iceheart just can't be the only ice monster set

regime211 · July 2019

ImSoPro wrote: »

Winterborn doesn’t really need a buff for the sake of being buffed. It’ll get buffed get used by everyone then get complaints then get nerfed. So let’s leave that set exactly where it’s at, because it performs well. We do need more ice sets though because the selection is extremely limited.

Very true. I only suggested because of the lack of ice sets and just not tanking sets or not so good sets like icy conjurer

ANGEL_BtVS · July 2019

Sadly, we've been having this conversation for years now. We really need the introduction of a new weapon line that could have a support focus to include tanking, such as an alteration staff. Then perhaps we could get the ice destruction staff to actually have an offensive focus as it should. I loved playing Skyrim as an ice mage wearing Stalhrim armor.

Defilted · July 2019

I was thinking the release of a Cyromancer and Pyromamcer skill line would be a cool way to go.

Sorcs cover lighting well already.

Royaji · July 2019

We already have a lot of great tanking sets. Not sure why more of them are needed.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2019

Defilted wrote: »

I was thinking the release of a Cyromancer and Pyromamcer skill line would be a cool way to go.

Sorcs cover lighting well already.

Magdk is not a "pyromancer"?

Undefwun · July 2019

As long as it's always the height of summer in PvP areas and frost and it's god forsaken slows don't work there.. go for it...

For PvE and RP let it be winter!

barney2525 · July 2019

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Can we also get some love for frost dps skills... frost “destruction” staff and the winters embrace line are a joke for people who want to actually do damage with this forsaken element

This is true. Stopped playing Warden because there's really only one skill line that has any offense.

regime211 · July 2019

Heavy Armor ice DPS set.

Set of Gelid's Bone Chilling.
LEVEL 50 - CP 160
Type: Dungeon
Set bonus

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage you place a extreme chill on your opponents which chills and reduces the Movement Speed of enemies by 70%, for up to 4 seconds causing enemies to take 11,000 cold damage every 4 seconds for 10 seconds and Grant's you minor protection for up to 5 seconds every 10 seconds.

pod88kk · July 2019

If a role playing frost mage dps joins my group & starts taunting the boss away from the tank they're getting kicked

regime211 · July 2019

pod88kk wrote: »

If a role playing frost mage dps joins my group & starts taunting the boss away from the tank they're getting kicked

Not if you have me in the group bb

Royaji · July 2019

regime211 wrote: »

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage you place a extreme chill on your opponent, which could freeze or stun your opponent or opponents for up to 4 seconds causing them to take 15,000 cold damage every 6 seconds, and Grant's you major or minor protection for 10 seconds.

So an extra long stun, high damage and both major and minor protection for 10 seconds without cooldown? And all of that on a guaranteed very simple proc condition. Yeah, sets like this should never be released.

regime211 · July 2019

Royaji wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage you place a extreme chill on your opponent, which could freeze or stun your opponent or opponents for up to 4 seconds causing them to take 15,000 cold damage every 6 seconds, and Grant's you major or minor protection for 10 seconds.

So an extra long stun, high damage and both major and minor protection for 10 seconds without cooldown? And all of that on a guaranteed very simple proc condition. Yeah, sets like this should never be released.

What im saying is they can either put minor or major protection not both.

regime211 · July 2019

Royaji wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage you place a extreme chill on your opponent, which could freeze or stun your opponent or opponents for up to 4 seconds causing them to take 15,000 cold damage every 6 seconds, and Grant's you major or minor protection for 10 seconds.

So an extra long stun, high damage and both major and minor protection for 10 seconds without cooldown? And all of that on a guaranteed very simple proc condition. Yeah, sets like this should never be released.

Well you know this is how Zos releases sets.

Royaji · July 2019

regime211 wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

(2 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) When you take damage you place a extreme chill on your opponent, which could freeze or stun your opponent or opponents for up to 4 seconds causing them to take 15,000 cold damage every 6 seconds, and Grant's you major or minor protection for 10 seconds.

So an extra long stun, high damage and both major and minor protection for 10 seconds without cooldown? And all of that on a guaranteed very simple proc condition. Yeah, sets like this should never be released.

What im saying is they can either put minor or major protection not both.

That is still a very overloaded set which is completely pointless for a tank outside of PvP where tanks do not need any buffs.