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Why isn’t Fossilize getting nerfed?
gamerguy757
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So explain to me why Rune Prison loses ALL utility but DKs get to repeat cast a double CC freely. No cast time, DoT no delay, and a roof added on.
Explain why DKs get this OP CC, and Sorcs keep getting all their skills bent over and screwed.
Explain why DKs get this OP CC, and Sorcs keep getting all their skills bent over and screwed.
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Rake✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it16 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is nerfed hard, cost increased x1.5 times. I don't know if people read patch notes at all.. it costs like hell and it is melee range, and it doesn't surpass hard cc immunity. So yeah it is powerful, but you sacrifice a slot for it and you need to land it precisely when there is no cc immunity.4 -
Austinseph1✭✭✭✭✭Because the pvp crowd never stops calling for nerfs, you end up with what is left of sorc. Constantly cut apart until nobody wants to touch it anymore. I’m sure if you keep being vocal about it you can make DK the next sorc, who knows.Edited by Austinseph1 on July 20, 2019 5:04PM1 -
gamerguy757✭✭✭✭✭It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?Edited by gamerguy757 on July 20, 2019 5:18PM1 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If it goes live, Streak will be unblockable. Your point?Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!5 -
xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it
tbf nobody should be spamming it anyway. You save it for an oppertunistic or setup you never spam it out otherwise you force CC immunity on your target and you then lose out from the lash proc and exploiter.Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.0 -
Rake✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
delete sorc and roll dragonknight3 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
It's getting a massive cost increase and a range nerf. Sorcs still have a ranged CC and their melee CC got buffed.
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it
tbf nobody should be spamming it anyway. You save it for an oppertunistic or setup you never spam it out otherwise you force CC immunity on your target and you then lose out from the lash proc and exploiter.gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
It's getting a massive cost increase and a range nerf. Sorcs still have a ranged CC and their melee CC got buffed.
This isn't really about DK at all. It's really a post whining about sorc nerfs and maybe the one class that can slow down a sorcs mobility...DK and Fossilize.
Nothing to see here. Just another sorc terrified that they might actually be killable next patch.
Signed,
A sorc main that believes his class should be balanced and not OPEdited by Kel on July 20, 2019 5:34PM12 -
Varaug_Gaming✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »So explain to me why Rune Prison loses ALL utility but DKs get to repeat cast a double CC freely. No cast time, DoT no delay, and a roof added on.
Explain why DKs get this OP CC, and Sorcs keep getting all their skills bent over and screwed.
because fighting a mag sorc is literally fighting 1 vs 50 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭vampire drain is an unblockable instant CC that is accessible to everyone at a low cost, what's ur point again?
He feels incoming of fossilize into onslaught and ruination of 30k resistance shields. He feels dots and bleeds, poison and fire, ticking in full power while he is streaking away.0 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Fossilize is a great CC yes but I think they increased the cost of it so thats a significant enough nerf.0 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Decreased Range, Increased cost.... "why didn't that get nerfed?" lol-- @xaraan --
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xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it
tbf nobody should be spamming it anyway. You save it for an oppertunistic or setup you never spam it out otherwise you force CC immunity on your target and you then lose out from the lash proc and exploiter.gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
It's getting a massive cost increase and a range nerf. Sorcs still have a ranged CC and their melee CC got buffed.
This isn't really about DK at all. It's really a post whining about sorc nerfs and maybe the one class that can slow down a sorcs mobility...DK and Fossilize.
Nothing to see here. Just another sorc terrified that they might actually be killable next patch.
Signed,
A sorc main that believes his class should be balanced and not OP
Yeah I figured.
Like people hear all the time about how OP sorc is but in reality its DK that usually gets nerfed, I think its only been since wrathstone that DK finally saw some love lmao.
Cant wait till week 3 PTS; Fossilize is now a DoT. XD - *sigh* I shouldn't joke to be honest.......PTS patch notes is literally nerf AoE/Buff Single target DoT.
I used to love playing sorc myself on and off in PvP just to relax a bit (pre crit shields) ... not a fan of sorc atm pet sorc is so.....idk its just not fun.Edited by xeNNNNN on July 20, 2019 8:05PMAh, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.2 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭nerfed? this skill should be deleted from the game...they removed the garbage from warden bird that was bypassing everything but this skill still exsists...0 -
Corpier✭✭✭✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it
tbf nobody should be spamming it anyway. You save it for an oppertunistic or setup you never spam it out otherwise you force CC immunity on your target and you then lose out from the lash proc and exploiter.gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
It's getting a massive cost increase and a range nerf. Sorcs still have a ranged CC and their melee CC got buffed.
This isn't really about DK at all. It's really a post whining about sorc nerfs and maybe the one class that can slow down a sorcs mobility...DK and Fossilize.
Nothing to see here. Just another sorc terrified that they might actually be killable next patch.
Signed,
A sorc main that believes his class should be balanced and not OP
Yeah I figured.
Like people hear all the time about how OP sorc is but in reality its DK that usually gets nerfed, I think its only been since wrathstone that DK finally saw some love lmao.
Cant wait till week 3 PTS; Fossilize is now a DoT. XD - *sigh* I shouldn't joke to be honest.......PTS patch notes is literally nerf AoE/Buff Single target DoT.
I used to love playing sorc myself on and off in PvP just to relax a bit (pre crit shields) ... not a fan of sorc atm pet sorc is so.....idk its just not fun.
No love since Wrathstone? Elsweyer not ring any bells? DK got some great buffs last patch. Cauterize/Flames of Oblivion got their target cap increased/usable by stamdks, and lets not forget that fun buff stacking Molten Whip minigame (that is getting nerfed sadly).
Still DK has the worst sustain of all classes, most expensive skills and fewest/least used or effective sustain passives, anyone who thinks that a cost increase to any of their skills doesn't matter has not played one.Edited by Corpier on July 20, 2019 8:29PM@Corpier | PC/NA CP1300+
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Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't understand this thread but I firmly believe that somewhere someone is going 'nerf sorc'.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.1 -
Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭Oooh a mad sorc player lashing out thread? Never seen that before lol
Stop trying to veil it as a discussion about dk when you're just complaining about sorcs, if you're going to whine about sorcs getting nerfed go do that in one of the other millions of threads where sorc fanboys have cried their heart out.
Edited by Freakin_Hytte on July 20, 2019 9:05PM3 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭I heard Msorcs need a better option for a spammables, so we increased costs of shields by 25% and reduced their potency by 10%.
You guys got ZoSed like MDK. Grab a drink and a seat in the circle with the rest of US.1 -
xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭are you for real.
are you reading notes at all.
cost of it went 2700 magicka to 4k+ magicka.
Skill is unusable by stamina dragonknights next patch and magicka ones will not be able to spam it
tbf nobody should be spamming it anyway. You save it for an oppertunistic or setup you never spam it out otherwise you force CC immunity on your target and you then lose out from the lash proc and exploiter.gamerguy757 wrote: »It’s not even a nerf. It’s a stupid increase in cost. You wanna nerf Fossilize? Remove the root, and show the ground shaking which gives you 1.5s to roll out of it. Oh I’m sorry...is that too much? That what happened to Rune Prison when y’all cried non stop about it
People cry alllllll the time about Sorc skills and next patch they just lower damage, lower damage mitigation, increase cost, cast times. Like seriously...WTF?
It's getting a massive cost increase and a range nerf. Sorcs still have a ranged CC and their melee CC got buffed.
This isn't really about DK at all. It's really a post whining about sorc nerfs and maybe the one class that can slow down a sorcs mobility...DK and Fossilize.
Nothing to see here. Just another sorc terrified that they might actually be killable next patch.
Signed,
A sorc main that believes his class should be balanced and not OP
Yeah I figured.
Like people hear all the time about how OP sorc is but in reality its DK that usually gets nerfed, I think its only been since wrathstone that DK finally saw some love lmao.
Cant wait till week 3 PTS; Fossilize is now a DoT. XD - *sigh* I shouldn't joke to be honest.......PTS patch notes is literally nerf AoE/Buff Single target DoT.
I used to love playing sorc myself on and off in PvP just to relax a bit (pre crit shields) ... not a fan of sorc atm pet sorc is so.....idk its just not fun.
No love since Wrathstone? Elsweyer not ring any bells? DK got some great buffs last patch. Cauterize/Flames of Oblivion got their target cap increased/usable by stamdks, and lets not forget that fun buff stacking Molten Whip minigame (that is getting nerfed sadly).
Still DK has the worst sustain of all classes, most expensive skills and fewest/least used or effective sustain passives, anyone who thinks that a cost increase to any of their skills doesn't matter has not played one.
You misunderstood, I didnt say only in wrathstone, I said since wrathstone, implying that they've been getting more buffs than nerfs since wrathstone. If you're going to attempt correct someone at least read what they say correctly first.
I've been playing mag DK almost exclusively in PvP for over a year and a half now. The cost increase only matters if you can't adapt and crutch too hard on it - most of the time its used in setups instead of engagements of opportunity because to really make the most out of the stun you should have engulfing and embers on them already. Good players will adapt to the cost change. The change still sucks but how it will effect you will entirely depend on how you play and your knowledge of the game.
Hence why I said further up that you never spam it anyway, anyone trying to spam it doesn't understand their procs nor do they understand how to use them in a fight a lot of mag DKs burst comes from Exploiter + lash (Or molten if you prefer a less tanky burst build) which requires the proper use of fossilize to reach full potential because of off-balance.
In reality the cost increase hurts stamdk more than magdk funnily enough.Edited by xeNNNNN on July 20, 2019 9:21PMAh, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »If it goes live, Streak will be unblockable. Your point?
WTB: A usable CC that doesn't result in the caster facing THE WRONG WAY after using it.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1
