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Will you be running Annulment or Conjured Ward after Scalebreaker?
Horcsogg
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Both of them are getting nerfs, here are the relevant pts notes for the skills:
Conjured Ward:
Reduced the shield size of this ability and the Empowered Ward morph by approximately 18%, and increased the cost of this ability and the Hardened Ward morph to 4320 from 3510. These changes were done to make them more comparable to the damage shield / burst heal standard.
Empowered Ward (morph): The final cost of this ability is now 3780, and it no longer gains 1.1% shield size per rank as it already has a cost reduction rank up.
Hardened Ward (morph): Reduced the shield size of this ability by approximately 9%.
Annulment: Reduced the shield size of this ability and its morphs by approximately 9%.
Harness Magicka (morph): This morph no longer returns 3% of your Max Magicka when absorbing spell attacks. Instead, it restores 5% of the ability’s cost whenever it absorbs any damage. Note this value continues to increase per piece of Light Armor worn, and can still only occur up to 3 times per cast.
Conjured Ward:
Reduced the shield size of this ability and the Empowered Ward morph by approximately 18%, and increased the cost of this ability and the Hardened Ward morph to 4320 from 3510. These changes were done to make them more comparable to the damage shield / burst heal standard.
Empowered Ward (morph): The final cost of this ability is now 3780, and it no longer gains 1.1% shield size per rank as it already has a cost reduction rank up.
Hardened Ward (morph): Reduced the shield size of this ability by approximately 9%.
Annulment: Reduced the shield size of this ability and its morphs by approximately 9%.
Harness Magicka (morph): This morph no longer returns 3% of your Max Magicka when absorbing spell attacks. Instead, it restores 5% of the ability’s cost whenever it absorbs any damage. Note this value continues to increase per piece of Light Armor worn, and can still only occur up to 3 times per cast.
Will you be running Annulment or Conjured Ward after Scalebreaker? 45 votes
Conjured Ward
17%
8 votes
Annulment
35%
16 votes
I won`t be running any of these anymore
46%
21 votes
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Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreVoting with my dollar. If the changes go live will move on to another mmo. Enough is enough.7
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Illuvatarr wrote: »Voting with my dollar. If the changes go live will move on to another mmo. Enough is enough.
Can I have your stuff?
To the op, in pve, most people will not see a difference in ward size anyways, as the health cap is still there, cost increase will be felt, I get that. In PvP, wards are going to be smaller, yes, but they will still be a good size and still be able to give you more then your health bar. Something heals can't do
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Banana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreIce heart and a shielding glyph for me. Solo play.1 -
SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreI stopped running both with nerfmire. Now... started looking at other MMOs and buttoning up my accounts on this one when update 23 patch notes dropped.Edited by SirLeeMinion on July 16, 2019 3:04PM3 -
Grandma✭✭✭✭✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreI stopped running shields after murkmire, and only do for rare occasions, like vma or maybe vss trash during final boss. so no, probably neither.GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer0
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Fivefivesix✭✭✭Conjured WardI run ward now and will continue to do so when it gets nerfed. Really I find myself not really needing it for casual stuff but for things like vMA or other vet trials. I think the change isn't to bad really. Currently I literally go PvP with PvE gear on my magsorc running ward alongside annulment and it feels to tanky if Im being honest. The change seems fair to meUnited we stand, divided we fall.0
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AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreMy one-pet (matriarch) magsorc runs Empowered because it helps the pet and lasts 10 seconds. It was a tough call to keep it after Nerfmire. Any further nerfs and will drop it. Bar space is too tight for any puny six second buffs.Edited by AcadianPaladin on July 16, 2019 7:27PMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not sure yet.
I only have one character that uses a ward. For most of the content I do, I don't really need it. When I'm doing world bosses, though? He has really bad self heals and kind of relies on proactive defense. I think he will be okay, but things are going to be tougher. Which I would not mind so much if the game was not currently having so much issues with responsiveness and lag. XD1 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭Conjured WardTechnically I won't be running any of these as I don't really play my Sorc anymore as it's a boring class that punishes you for investing in each patch.
I'll enjoy other classes and roles that generally don't rely on shields as much.
That's my own personal solution, I don't suggest nor expect it to suffice anyone else.0 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shields are near to useless nowadaysPC/DC/NAserver
V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk3 -
Shantu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Conjured WardI'll run Hardened because a little extra protection will help Sorcs. But shields overall are just pathetic. More collateral damage from PVP balancing that makes little to no sense in PVE. I won't digress into a rant because it's painfully apparent that no one at ZOS is listening.1 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭People acting like this is the death of shields for what? Really? They're still roundly better than burst heals. Also which one I'd run depends on what I'd be doing. 9% nerf is just tooooo much on something that's been clearly overperforming?
If shields were bad for you post-"nerf"mire then that's mostly on you. Either crutching on them too hard in PVE or not building hard enough for them in PvP.4 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I will still run Hardened Ward , this is my best defensive skill .
We have no option , I will still run it even 30% size reduced , ZOS you can do everything you like .0 -
Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AnnulmentConsidering it's the only spammable shield my preferred class has access to. Also I'm pretty indifferent with the changes.0 -
SaintSubwayy✭✭✭✭✭
✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreplaying stam anyways soo jeah nopePC EU
vAA HM / vHRC HM / vSO HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS HM / vCR HM / vSS HM / vKA HM
Flawless Conqueror / Immortal Redeemer / Dawnbringer / Griphon Heart / Master Angler / Spirit Slayer0 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conjured WardI suppose thread means only sorcs, as options for an answer really lacking.
I don't run shields in a group content but will slot it in vma for sure, they are as strong with resists applied to them anyway.0 -
ImSoPro✭✭✭AnnulmentCan everyone who is quitting the game over a shield nerf kindly send me all their armor and weapon sets. Monster sets too please and if you guys have any double bloody maras and witchmothers, I’ll also take those with a side of citrus filet. Thank you all. PS4 NA1
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a magsorc I like having a shield on both bars especially when the random healer in my group isn't being proactive or reactive with their heals.
(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭I won`t be running any of these anymoreCan everyone who is quitting the game over a shield nerf kindly send me all their armor and weapon sets. Monster sets too please and if you guys have any double bloody maras and witchmothers, I’ll also take those with a side of citrus filet. Thank you all. PS4 NA
Nope, an unoriginal, snarky "Can I haz..." gets you nothing. Sorry not sorry.1
