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What are the fastest ticking (stam)dots?

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Kragh
Endless hail - that gets changed so not anymore
Templar jabs
any other skill/class that has dots that tick faster than 1/s?
  • Royaji
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    Pretty sure that with Wheeler's crusade all DoTs will be ticking once a second very soon.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Jabs is not a dot, it is a channel. While it is amped by thaumaturge, not the same thing.

    Kragh is also not amped by thaumaturge but Master at arms. This might be a bug but that is what happens.

    I am pretty sure the only dots that tick more then once a second now are going to be mystic orbs and mystic siphon, with the former being every half second and the later being every 1/3 a second.
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    Jabs is not a dot, it is a channel. While it is amped by thaumaturge, not the same thing.

    Kragh is also not amped by thaumaturge but Master at arms. This might be a bug but that is what happens.

    I am pretty sure the only dots that tick more then once a second now are going to be mystic orbs and mystic siphon, with the former being every half second and the later being every 1/3 a second.

    well kragh should get changed i'd assume with this patch since they write they correct these things - and i'd also assume something is either direct damage or a dot? so if they are not direct damage they should be classified as dot? why would they otherwise get altered by thaumaturge...?
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    Jabs is not a dot, it is a channel. While it is amped by thaumaturge, not the same thing.

    Kragh is also not amped by thaumaturge but Master at arms. This might be a bug but that is what happens.

    I am pretty sure the only dots that tick more then once a second now are going to be mystic orbs and mystic siphon, with the former being every half second and the later being every 1/3 a second.

    well kragh should get changed i'd assume with this patch since they write they correct these things - and i'd also assume something is either direct damage or a dot? so if they are not direct damage they should be classified as dot? why would they otherwise get altered by thaumaturge...?

    Never assume anything, you make an ass out of u and me.

    Yes, things are either a dot or direct damage. My point about jabs/sweeps is that a channel is different then a true dot, a channel you are stuck casting while doing the damage over time, a true dot, you cast it and then can do other things.

    Like I said, kraghs is probably a bug, i will investigate on the pts later if Master at arms is still buffing it instead of thaumaturge.

    What is making you ask these questions? About dot timings.
  • Nemesis7884
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    Jabs is not a dot, it is a channel. While it is amped by thaumaturge, not the same thing.

    Kragh is also not amped by thaumaturge but Master at arms. This might be a bug but that is what happens.

    I am pretty sure the only dots that tick more then once a second now are going to be mystic orbs and mystic siphon, with the former being every half second and the later being every 1/3 a second.

    well kragh should get changed i'd assume with this patch since they write they correct these things - and i'd also assume something is either direct damage or a dot? so if they are not direct damage they should be classified as dot? why would they otherwise get altered by thaumaturge...?

    Never assume anything, you make an ass out of u and me.

    Yes, things are either a dot or direct damage. My point about jabs/sweeps is that a channel is different then a true dot, a channel you are stuck casting while doing the damage over time, a true dot, you cast it and then can do other things.

    Like I said, kraghs is probably a bug, i will investigate on the pts later if Master at arms is still buffing it instead of thaumaturge.

    What is making you ask these questions? About dot timings.

    thanks a lot!

    so both necro siphons (magicka and stamina) tick 3 times per second? I wish i would find this information somewhere, e.g. the tooltip would specifiy this...
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Jabs is not a dot, it is a channel. While it is amped by thaumaturge, not the same thing.

    Kragh is also not amped by thaumaturge but Master at arms. This might be a bug but that is what happens.

    I am pretty sure the only dots that tick more then once a second now are going to be mystic orbs and mystic siphon, with the former being every half second and the later being every 1/3 a second.

    well kragh should get changed i'd assume with this patch since they write they correct these things - and i'd also assume something is either direct damage or a dot? so if they are not direct damage they should be classified as dot? why would they otherwise get altered by thaumaturge...?

    Never assume anything, you make an ass out of u and me.

    Yes, things are either a dot or direct damage. My point about jabs/sweeps is that a channel is different then a true dot, a channel you are stuck casting while doing the damage over time, a true dot, you cast it and then can do other things.

    Like I said, kraghs is probably a bug, i will investigate on the pts later if Master at arms is still buffing it instead of thaumaturge.

    What is making you ask these questions? About dot timings.

    thanks a lot!

    so both necro siphons (magicka and stamina) tick 3 times per second? I wish i would find this information somewhere, e.g. the tooltip would specifiy this...

    Yes, both morphs. Again, what has you asking about dot tick rates?
  • Nemesis7884
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    the new set azurblight reaper:

    5 items) When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you apply a stack of Blight Seed to your target for 5 seconds. At 20 stacks, the Blight Seeds explode, dealing 11100 Disease Damage to the target and nearby enemies. An enemy that has reached 20 stacks cannot be infected with Blight Seed for 2 seconds.

    seems kragh + siphon will help get fast to 20 ticks
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    the new set azurblight reaper:

    5 items) When you deal damage with a damage over time effect, you apply a stack of Blight Seed to your target for 5 seconds. At 20 stacks, the Blight Seeds explode, dealing 11100 Disease Damage to the target and nearby enemies. An enemy that has reached 20 stacks cannot be infected with Blight Seed for 2 seconds.

    seems kragh + siphon will help get fast to 20 ticks

    Just going through a rotation will build that up fast.
  • Nemesis7884
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    i am a sucker for thematically sound builds so necro fits nicely :smile:
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    so i did some testing, turns out the tooltip on kraghs is just wrong, it does actually scale with thaumaturge.

    did testing on pts.

    first a baseline-
    tooltip, without any percent amps-

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    actual damage-

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    tooltip is 1300, damage on target is 865, that is fine because of armor on the target.

    then i did 15% into mighty-
    tooltip-

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    actual damage on target-

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    tooltip up to 1495 and damage on target to 995, a perfect 15% increase, like it ought to be.

    now it gets tricky, i did 25% into thaumaturge next-
    tooltip-

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    actual damage on target-

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    tooltip stayed 1300, the base but the damage on target went up to 1082, a 25% increase. clearly a bug.


    lastly, i did 25% master at arms.
    tooltip-

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    damage on target-

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    the tooltip went up to 1625, like it got the 25% from master at arm but the damage stayed the same, at the base of 865.


    so clearly the set is a dot, at least when it comes to the champion point system, i was wrong.
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    @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO Good test. Who do you tag to get actual attention for something like this? It would be good for ZoS to see, and it should be a simple fix
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO Good test. Who do you tag to get actual attention for something like this? It would be good for ZoS to see, and it should be a simple fix

    no idea but i did make a thread in the bug report section.
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