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90% of the ultimates have cast times

Micah_Bayer
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Why is this a good idea? Not only are the ultimates having cast times but weapon swapping is unreliable now since it seems like it also has a cast time or no longer able to animation cancel via weapon swap? Idk it just feels janky as hell. Slowing down combat, what is the combat team thinking?
[edited for profanity bypass]
Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 7:37PM
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    that getting DBOS should atleast be seen in PvP. That was the reason.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    that getting DBOS should atleast be seen in PvP. That was the reason.

    I..I literally cant even anymore
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I don’t think we need a new thread on this, @Micah_Bayer.

    There are at least 3 of them in the PTS forums that players can comment in ...
  • Micah_Bayer
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    I don’t think we need a new thread on this, @Micah_Bayer.

    There are at least 3 of them in the PTS forums that players can comment in ...

    I didn't know, well now they can see that a lot of players hate this change.
  • jainiadral
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    Ugh, seriously? Not being a frequenter of the PTS forum, I'm glad to see this here so I know what other horrors are coming down the pike.

    What next? No, don't answer that :D I'm going to cling harder to the next few weeks of post-Elsweyr normalcy and let the ick begin when the DLC hits.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    This is one of the worse changes.
  • darthgummibear_ESO
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    What's this about problems with weapon swapping?
  • Micah_Bayer
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    What's this about problems with weapon swapping?

    There is a delay on that as well
  • Wolfpaw
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    Slowing ESO combat is for the better,....now get the hell off my lawn.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Slowing ESO combat is for the better,....now get the hell off my lawn.

    Lol good one. You almost had me
  • jadarock
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    Lag+cast times= lol
    I'm so glad I've already stopped playing. Seems like everytime I read on planned changes they disappoint

  • Sylvermynx
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    Huh. Not sure if that's going to be better for managing on satellite, or worse. Guess I'll find out eventually.
  • Stebarnz
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    They are trying to do away with ani cancelling, this is the nail in the coffin I think.

    no animation cancel this game will be slow and dead.
    Edited by Stebarnz on July 11, 2019 11:46PM
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    They are trying to do away with ani cancelling, this is the nail in the coffin I think.

    no animation cancel this game will be slow and dead.

    Yet another reason to not like Wheeler as lead combat designer.
  • D0PAMINE
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    Im not a fan of this at all.
  • Wolfpaw
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    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.
    Edited by Wolfpaw on July 12, 2019 1:40AM
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.
  • blkjag
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    Where was this mentioned?
  • barney2525
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    What's this about problems with weapon swapping?



    I dunno.

    I'm not swapping my weapons with anyone.


    oh...

    wrong kind of swap?

    :#
  • Vapirko
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    It’s a terrible idea. ZOS please do not let this go through. It’s going to be miserable for PvP.
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    that getting DBOS should atleast be seen in PvP. That was the reason.

    Given that so often it's accompanied by 10+ zerglings spamming spin-2-win at the same time, being able to see it coming is often academic. :D
    What's this about problems with weapon swapping?

    There is a delay on that as well

    So, we all Cyrodiil now?
    Edited by Mr_Walker on July 12, 2019 2:53AM
  • Wolfpaw
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.

    No it's not.

    Aoe, ani, spam, and many other things combat & non combat related are. It's long past due to start trimming the fat from this game.

    You can deny & argue your point all you like, this is happening.
  • Kova
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.

    No it's not.

    Aoe, ani, spam, and many other things combat & non combat related are. It's long past due to start trimming the fat from this game.

    You can deny & argue your point all you like, this is happening.

    Usually getting rid of fat makes something faster.
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  • Wolfpaw
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    Kova wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.

    No it's not.

    Aoe, ani, spam, and many other things combat & non combat related are. It's long past due to start trimming the fat from this game.

    You can deny & argue your point all you like, this is happening.

    Usually getting rid of fat makes something faster.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeZe2qPLPh0
    Edited by Wolfpaw on July 12, 2019 3:29AM
  • Aznarb
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.

    No it's not.

    Aoe, ani, spam, and many other things combat & non combat related are. It's long past due to start trimming the fat from this game.

    You can deny & argue your point all you like, this is happening.

    From what I know, weaving by canceling ani was a bug and never be intended.
    They allow it instead of fixing it.
    I don't really car if it's removed, that will lower the gap with older player who just can't spam that fast.

    But, hey, maybe it's again a bug and it will be fix, same for ultimate, who know ?
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  • Lylith
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    This is one of the worse changes.

    they're mostly the worst, this time around, imho.
  • Nyladreas
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    I don’t think we need a new thread on this, @Micah_Bayer.

    There are at least 3 of them in the PTS forums that players can comment in ...

    I didn't know, well now they can see that a lot of players hate this change.

    A lot? Most players are happy. It's just some 500ish people active on the forums that are mad af.

    A lot of people left the game cause of combat.

    I don't support their change btw, I'm indifferent to it.
    Edited by Nyladreas on July 12, 2019 5:11AM
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Ani combat contributes to ESO's performance issues also.

    And that's load of crap.

    No it's not.

    Aoe, ani, spam, and many other things combat & non combat related are. It's long past due to start trimming the fat from this game.

    You can deny & argue your point all you like, this is happening.

    it does not need to it's destroying fluidity of combat.
  • Ryath_Waylander
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    Bar swap delay... will it stack with my lag? I already have a delay of about 1-2sec on it :p Or will I be exempt?
    Edited by Ryath_Waylander on July 12, 2019 7:17AM
  • Saelent
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    Haven’t people been complaining for a way to stop animation cancelling rather than calling it a ‘feature’???
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