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Ice frunace set on DK? Theorycraft
tunepunk
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Feel like playing around with some builds. Please not this is not any attempt to make any Super effective BIS build, but mostly for playing around.
The reason I wanted to try this set on a DK is because i wanted to see if this set is a good way to apply burning to many targets. Charged frost staff on a DK would have a quite high chance to apply status effects when the burn damage from this set procs, and DK's get higher Damage from burning status effect in passives.
The damage itself from the set is not really much to talk about, but applying Burning to a whole group of enemies with this set could be quite useful.
Has anyone tried?
Does this set proc on initial target as well, or only surrounding targets?
The reason I wanted to try this set on a DK is because i wanted to see if this set is a good way to apply burning to many targets. Charged frost staff on a DK would have a quite high chance to apply status effects when the burn damage from this set procs, and DK's get higher Damage from burning status effect in passives.
The damage itself from the set is not really much to talk about, but applying Burning to a whole group of enemies with this set could be quite useful.
Has anyone tried?
Does this set proc on initial target as well, or only surrounding targets?
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robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭Charged inferno and Blockade will give you as much burning procs as you want + every DK's ability is fire damage except Stonefist.
This set would be slightly better for mass burning, if it would proc of 'Frost Damage' and not 'Frost Damage ability' so light and heavy attacks would proc it too.1 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭Charged inferno and Blockade will give you as much burning procs as you want + every DK's ability is fire damage except Stonefist.
This set would be slightly better for mass burning, if it would proc of 'Frost Damage' and not 'Frost Damage ability' so light and heavy attacks would proc it too.
Ahhh are you sure it does not proc off light and heavy attacks? What about enchants?
Would be a quite nice resource free way to spread some havoc, on light/heavy attacks.0 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Right off, I applaud the non-meta thinking here. But, its a no from me dawg.
There are so many problems with this set. First, its a heavy armor set, so you're stuck with weapons and jewelry. Second, most of those frost abilities center on slowing or immobilizing an enemy, which most bosses and higher level adds are immune to, so you're losing out on damage or status effects you would have with fire or shock. Third, unless they changed this recently, weapon damage has no effect on staves, so the 4th piece bonus is useless. Fourth, its a 50% for 1056 flat damage in an 8 meter radius every 1 second. Lets say you hit it 10 times over 20 seconds, that's 10,560 extra damage over 20 seconds, which would be a long fight. Even if you hit that 100% every second, that's only 21,120 over 20 seconds. Its not worth it. Finally, there is the problem with the heavy attack taunt of the ice staff, which if you run group content, will make you very unpopular in the group.
BSW is a better non-trials gear option across the board. IA, despite falling out of favor with the meta crowd, is miles ahead of this set. If you want an off-meta, non-light armor set with a useless weapon critical buff that would outperform this, go with Undaunted Infiltrator. But Ice Furnace isn't even worth running in PVP1 -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭El_Borracho wrote: »Third, unless they changed this recently, weapon damage has no effect on staves, so the 4th piece bonus is useless.
Yes, It's getting changed to Spell Damage. I'd like to see the same with Undaunted Infiltrator and Unweaver.2 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »Third, unless they changed this recently, weapon damage has no effect on staves, so the 4th piece bonus is useless.
Yes, It's getting changed to Spell Damage. I'd like to see the same with Undaunted Infiltrator and Unweaver.
Nice. That would make Infiltrator useful. Xynode has a build pairing it with IA that works well right now. Be even better to change that weapon crit to spell crit.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Feel like playing around with some builds. Please not this is not any attempt to make any Super effective BIS build, but mostly for playing around.
The reason I wanted to try this set on a DK is because i wanted to see if this set is a good way to apply burning to many targets. Charged frost staff on a DK would have a quite high chance to apply status effects when the burn damage from this set procs, and DK's get higher Damage from burning status effect in passives.
The damage itself from the set is not really much to talk about, but applying Burning to a whole group of enemies with this set could be quite useful.
Has anyone tried?
Does this set proc on initial target as well, or only surrounding targets?
Big problem with ice furnace is that you need frost based skills. For a tank using bockade it could be an interesting option. And it could be even more useful if you used a charged staff and a poison gliph, so you can potentialy recover both, stam and magicka.
Maybe it is time to go back to Direfrost Keep
edit: Forgot that it is direct dmg, so no proc on blockade... Maybe Pulsar?Edited by Xvorg on July 11, 2019 8:53PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Joosef_Kivikilpi✭✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »Third, unless they changed this recently, weapon damage has no effect on staves, so the 4th piece bonus is useless.
Yes, It's getting changed to Spell Damage. I'd like to see the same with Undaunted Infiltrator and Unweaver.
Nice. That would make Infiltrator useful. Xynode has a build pairing it with IA that works well right now. Be even better to change that weapon crit to spell crit.
Infiltrator is amazing on its own. Run with Unweaver and VMA Lightning Staff... You won't have regrets.0 -
Sleezly✭✭✭Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »Infiltrator is amazing on its own. Run with Unweaver and VMA Lightning Staff... You won't have regrets.
Shh! Don’t give folks ideas like that! Yes that combo is awesome but let’s keep this our little secret, yes?0