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Why is no one using power surge
washbern
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I thought 20% increased spell damage would be something you'd always want up. What am I missing? Nobody runs this skill at all.
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Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭Because people use a potion, that gives the same effect, instead. That way they can use another ability instead of using Power Surge.The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.5 -
washbern✭✭✭✭✭Ah. That makes sense then. I am a poor nomad with no mind for alchemy. Guess I'll keep running it then1
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah it’s great if you’re not using Spell Power potions. Also make sure to slot Inner Light for passive Major Prophecy (10% Spell Crit), another skill that most builds don’t use because it’s an effect in potions.3 -
Thoragaal✭✭✭✭✭I'm using it too, for normal/vet dungeons, because I'm cheap and things die too fast anyway to make a good use of "that last" ability :PThe road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"I've always wanted to kick a duck up the arse" -Karl Pilkington, on the question what he'd do if it was the last day on earth.1 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well actually loads of people run this skill in dungeons where they don't want to use expensive pots.7 -
LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Power Surge is often rendered mostly unnecessary by the use of spell power potions, but it is still a VERY useful ability.
It is a great utility, thanks to the healing you receive from it; making it highly desirable for pvp if you're running tri-stat pots, solo content such as vMA and if you're doing a 3DD 1 tank dungeon run.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.4 -
Wandering_Immigrant✭✭✭✭I use structured entropy. I run no pets, dual destro, so the extra heals are welcome.
I do have a petsorc, but she's a healer main, so I only really care about it for burst heals, and pots are fine for that.0 -
Grianasteri✭✭✭✭✭
✭I thought 20% increased spell damage would be something you'd always want up. What am I missing? Nobody runs this skill at all.
I do use Power Surge on my Magsorc, lots of people do.
Its main benefit is a proc of almost 3k health, every time you do a crit, which with a high crit build and running Boundless Storm, means you can proc health every second, so this combination, usually also with a damage shield in the rotation, is very powerful for survivability.
The 20% damage buff is also excellent, because not everyone runs damage potions.4 -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭Grianasteri wrote: »I thought 20% increased spell damage would be something you'd always want up. What am I missing? Nobody runs this skill at all.
I do use Power Surge on my Magsorc, lots of people do.
Its main benefit is a proc of almost 3k health, every time you do a crit, which with a high crit build and running Boundless Storm, means you can proc health every second, so this combination, usually also with a damage shield in the rotation, is very powerful for survivability.
The 20% damage buff is also excellent, because not everyone runs damage potions.
Not only Boundless. In PvE just drop a blockade and Liquid/Flood and you are almost immortal for the duration. In PvP Boundless and any single target dots like Reach's burning or you pet give a lot of healing.1 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭which with a high crit build
you dont even need a high crit build, 50% is plenty. i run the skill on both my sorcs in pve, best source of major buffs in the game.0 -
Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everybody uses it at some point
Only case you dont need it is some hardcore vet hm dungeons and trials0 -
Grianasteri✭✭✭✭✭
✭Grianasteri wrote: »I thought 20% increased spell damage would be something you'd always want up. What am I missing? Nobody runs this skill at all.
I do use Power Surge on my Magsorc, lots of people do.
Its main benefit is a proc of almost 3k health, every time you do a crit, which with a high crit build and running Boundless Storm, means you can proc health every second, so this combination, usually also with a damage shield in the rotation, is very powerful for survivability.
The 20% damage buff is also excellent, because not everyone runs damage potions.
Not only Boundless. In PvE just drop a blockade and Liquid/Flood and you are almost immortal for the duration. In PvP Boundless and any single target dots like Reach's burning or you pet give a lot of healing.
Yeah exactly, if you have dots down, each dot damage tick can crit, and therefore proc you health from Power Surge. Its insane survivability.
Ages ago I made a health proc tank, Almalexia, Livewire or Leeching plate (I was still undecided about the best combination), +Earthgore, + Power Surge skill. It was great fun. I've changed it into a damage shield build now, which is equally as fun, if not more.0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My lightning mage uses it and always has. It's really his only source of self-healing.
Tip - if an observation you make about the game includes phrases like "no one" and "everyone" it is pretty much guaranteed to be wrong.3 -
Fivefivesix✭✭✭I use degeneration instead of power surge. It applies a small DoT as well which will actually be buffed next patch dealing more DoT damage.
Yeah people run pots without using power surge or degeneration but I'm not going to pay those prices for mats or potions to just burn through money like that. I make potions that provide crit & mag restore which are much cheaper to make so thats my main reason why degeneration is on my bar.Edited by Fivefivesix on July 11, 2019 5:46PMUnited we stand, divided we fall.1 -
Krayl✭✭✭✭✭Major Sorcery = Potions
Healing = Healers
It's a good solo skill and a good group skill in limited situations when you need self healing (portals, runner, etc) but good players in difficult content are using potions on cooldown and there's not a compelling reason to not use spell power/crit/magicka pots.
Saying, "I'm not going to do that" is fine, play however you want to! If you are not going to pop potions on cooldown you're not doing content where it matters anyways so the debate is moot.Edited by Krayl on July 11, 2019 10:58PM0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Major Sorcery = Potions
Healing = Healers
It's a good solo skill and a good group skill in limited situations when you need self healing (portals, runner, etc) but good players in difficult content are using potions on cooldown and there's not a compelling reason to not use spell power/crit/magicka pots.
Saying, "I'm not going to do that" is fine, play however you want to! If you are not going to pop potions on cooldown you're not doing content where it matters anyways so the debate is moot.
PvE, right? Because in PvP finding those healers is kind of hard (and will be harder next patch)
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Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭It´s a fine solo skill. Not so good in groups.
You can always take pot or will use Degeneration for sure after U23.
Not sure about how a Sorc will heal after U23 though. Potions? Maybe will be forced to use Surge despite shields nerf (combo was shield and heal through Surge until full health).
Use Surge and Degeneration will be a waste of slots but there aren´t many other options out there. Unless you want to slot a Resto staff, or a Matriarch, and ruin your DPS.0
